Richt and the offense....changes? Don't count on it.

[QuattroCane]

The DB's as a whole were terrible last night, the front seven did they're job IMO. That kid from Wisky is a great RB and he did little of impact.

 

[scrantoncane]

If Richt is going to blindly stick to the RPO, we need a transcendent, natural at QB to be dominant. A Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick who has that innate ability to feel a defense and know how to beat it. I don’t think you can coach that into a guy that doesn’t possess it naturally, as far as it relates to the RPO.

I don’t like Richt’s offense. I find it to be vanilla and predictable. But if we get a superstar QB, we have as good a shot as anyone outside of Bama and Clemson at winning a championship.


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[scrantoncane]

Rosier did some nice things with his feet this season. In theory, I can see why Richt wants to go the RPO route - when you have the right guy, it can be a ***** to stop it. But the stubbornness, trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, that is the scariest part.

I am of the opinion that MR politely told Kaaya to move on. If that did, in fact, happen, then that is my number one indictment on MR the head coach, thus far. Knowing you had Rosier, Sheriffs, and a true freshman behind Kaaya, but still insisting to run your offense rather than adjust to Kaaya’s skill set, was a major failure.

The ability to adjust is what makes a coach elite. Whether it be in game, halftime, or, as in our case, philosophically. I’m not seeing elite adjustment ability from Richt thus far.


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[StoneWallLoungeCane]

I think Richt’s playcalling could use some work—especially on second down—but overall it really doesn’t concern me. We moved the ball significantly better than we should have last night.

He does need a better QB but the biggest problem is actually the running game. We kept using the wildcat because we can’t run the ball straight up. We had to have Rosier toss it around the field because we couldn’t run, and that has been the theme all year. Some of that is due to the OL, but Homer might be the most overrated player on the team. He has zero vision. Richt knew we were in trouble depth wise and that’s why he was trying to find a graduate transfer. I think RB will be a lot better next year with Lingard and a more experienced Homer.

 

[terdferguson]

I'm trying to withhold judgement until he gets a competent QB.
Having a bad QB really handcuffs an OC.

We still managed to gain more than a hundred yards over Wisky's average.
The only time they gave up more than 24 points was against Ohio State. (27)
If we hit our FG's and don't throw a **** INT in the redzone then we score more points against Wisky than anybody has all season.

Wisky has the #2 defense in the country and only allows 262 yards per game.
We gained 377 with Rosier at QB and a bunch of underclassmen at the skill positions. (Thomas, Dallas, Cager, Homer, Harley all made plays) Oh, and we were missing Herndon, Walton and Richards.

1. He had a competent qb last year.

2. Fair point about us gaining yards against Wisc. However their defense is not THAT good. Their ranking is inflated by the weakness of their schedule.

3. Forget yards for a minute. A major measure of the health of an offense is third down % and red zone %. We're terrible at both.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

I'm trying to withhold judgement until he gets a competent QB.
Having a bad QB really handcuffs an OC.

We still managed to gain more than a hundred yards over Wisky's average.
The only time they gave up more than 24 points was against Ohio State. (27)
If we hit our FG's and don't throw a **** INT in the redzone then we score more points against Wisky than anybody has all season.

Wisky has the #2 defense in the country and only allows 262 yards per game.
We gained 377 with Rosier at QB and a bunch of underclassmen at the skill positions. (Thomas, Dallas, Cager, Homer, Harley all made plays) Oh, and we were missing Herndon, Walton and Richards.

1. He had a competent qb last year.

2. Fair point about us gaining yards against Wisc. However their defense is not THAT good. Their ranking is inflated by the weakness of their schedule.

3. Forget yards for a minute. A major measure of the health of an offense is third down % and red zone %. We're terrible at both.

Richt’s biggest playcalling weakness is in second down IMo, which (along with out lack of a running game) has led to poor results on 3rd down. He kept trying to get it all on second down last night. He needs to bring back the shalllow cross.

 

[terdferguson]

I'm trying to withhold judgement until he gets a competent QB.
Having a bad QB really handcuffs an OC.

We still managed to gain more than a hundred yards over Wisky's average.
The only time they gave up more than 24 points was against Ohio State. (27)
If we hit our FG's and don't throw a **** INT in the redzone then we score more points against Wisky than anybody has all season.

Wisky has the #2 defense in the country and only allows 262 yards per game.
We gained 377 with Rosier at QB and a bunch of underclassmen at the skill positions. (Thomas, Dallas, Cager, Homer, Harley all made plays) Oh, and we were missing Herndon, Walton and Richards.

1. He had a competent qb last year.

2. Fair point about us gaining yards against Wisc. However their defense is not THAT good. Their ranking is inflated by the weakness of their schedule.

3. Forget yards for a minute. A major measure of the health of an offense is third down % and red zone %. We're terrible at both.

Richt’s biggest playcalling weakness is in second down IMo, which (along with out lack of a running game) has led to poor results on 3rd down. He kept trying to get it all on second down last night. He needs to bring back the shalllow cross.

I think that's a good point Tony. This offense needs first downs. It's need to convert some first downs and hold the ball. Too many 3 and outs. Better play calling on second down and a better short yardage power game are what we need.

 

[skyman]

If Richt is going to blindly stick to the RPO, we need a transcendent, natural at QB to be dominant. A Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick who has that innate ability to feel a defense and know how to beat it. I don’t think you can coach that into a guy that doesn’t possess it naturally, as far as it relates to the RPO.

I don’t like Richt’s offense. I find it to be vanilla and predictable. But if we get a superstar QB, we have as good a shot as anyone outside of Bama and Clemson at winning a championship.


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If most teams in top 15 get a "superstar" they have good shot.. not easy to find, much easier to go down street and get Kendall briles on staff to upgrade our offense..

 

[Canes82]

I'm trying to withhold judgement until he gets a competent QB.
Having a bad QB really handcuffs an OC.

We still managed to gain more than a hundred yards over Wisky's average.
The only time they gave up more than 24 points was against Ohio State. (27)
If we hit our FG's and don't throw a **** INT in the redzone then we score more points against Wisky than anybody has all season.

Wisky has the #2 defense in the country and only allows 262 yards per game.
We gained 377 with Rosier at QB and a bunch of underclassmen at the skill positions. (Thomas, Dallas, Cager, Homer, Harley all made plays) Oh, and we were missing Herndon, Walton and Richards.

1. He had a competent qb last year.

2. Fair point about us gaining yards against Wisc. However their defense is not THAT good. Their ranking is inflated by the weakness of their schedule.

3. Forget yards for a minute. A major measure of the health of an offense is third down % and red zone %. We're terrible at both.

Bingo. Great post.

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

If Richt is going to blindly stick to the RPO, we need a transcendent, natural at QB to be dominant. A Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick who has that innate ability to feel a defense and know how to beat it. I don’t think you can coach that into a guy that doesn’t possess it naturally, as far as it relates to the RPO.

I don’t like Richt’s offense. I find it to be vanilla and predictable. But if we get a superstar QB, we have as good a shot as anyone outside of Bama and Clemson at winning a championship.


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This is not true at all. You don't need a transcendent QB. You need a qb who can make the right decisions on a consistent basis throughout the game. Lets take away the passing decisions. Malik was garbage on his RPO or Zone read give/keep reads all year. I bet if he graded out he would be around 60% accurate decision making.

I would love a kid like Trace McSorely. He isn't all world or transcendent, but he is accurate and makes the offense go. Malik is just what he is.

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

I'm trying to withhold judgement until he gets a competent QB.
Having a bad QB really handcuffs an OC.

We still managed to gain more than a hundred yards over Wisky's average.
The only time they gave up more than 24 points was against Ohio State. (27)
If we hit our FG's and don't throw a **** INT in the redzone then we score more points against Wisky than anybody has all season.

Wisky has the #2 defense in the country and only allows 262 yards per game.
We gained 377 with Rosier at QB and a bunch of underclassmen at the skill positions. (Thomas, Dallas, Cager, Homer, Harley all made plays) Oh, and we were missing Herndon, Walton and Richards.

1. He had a competent qb last year.

2. Fair point about us gaining yards against Wisc. However their defense is not THAT good. Their ranking is inflated by the weakness of their schedule.

3. Forget yards for a minute. A major measure of the health of an offense is third down % and red zone %. We're terrible at both.

Richt’s biggest playcalling weakness is in second down IMo, which (along with out lack of a running game) has led to poor results on 3rd down. He kept trying to get it all on second down last night. He needs to bring back the shalllow cross.

How can you bring something back that our QB can't hit or wont throw? Watch the game and you will see crosses. Watch each of the routes. We don't throw them when they're being run.

 

[Fawk_U Haters]

I think Richt’s playcalling could use some work—especially on second down—but overall it really doesn’t concern me. We moved the ball significantly better than we should have last night.

He does need a better QB but the biggest problem is actually the running game. We kept using the wildcat because we can’t run the ball straight up. We had to have Rosier toss it around the field because we couldn’t run, and that has been the theme all year. Some of that is due to the OL, but Homer might be the most overrated player on the team. He has zero vision. Richt knew we were in trouble depth wise and that’s why he was trying to find a graduate transfer. I think RB will be a lot better next year with Lingard and a more experienced Homer.

Scaife and George should give us a little bit better chance. We were VERY weak up the middle with our offense. Darling can't leave quick enough, mahoney and gaynor didn't get it done this year. Donaldson showed that he is servicable at this point, but serviceable doesn't get us to where we need to be. Gauthier is out of position at C.

 

[Bennubird]

I'm trying to withhold judgement until he gets a competent QB.
Having a bad QB really handcuffs an OC.

We still managed to gain more than a hundred yards over Wisky's average.
The only time they gave up more than 24 points was against Ohio State. (27)
If we hit our FG's and don't throw a **** INT in the redzone then we score more points against Wisky than anybody has all season.

Wisky has the #2 defense in the country and only allows 262 yards per game.
We gained 377 with Rosier at QB and a bunch of underclassmen at the skill positions. (Thomas, Dallas, Cager, Homer, Harley all made plays) Oh, and we were missing Herndon, Walton and Richards.

Well said coach, and to amplify what you're saying, they were number #1 in Total Defense until after last night. I checked last night and just a moment ago. NCAA has updated their site.

 

[BoxingRobes]

I'm trying to withhold judgement until he gets a competent QB.
Having a bad QB really handcuffs an OC.

We still managed to gain more than a hundred yards over Wisky's average.
The only time they gave up more than 24 points was against Ohio State. (27)
If we hit our FG's and don't throw a **** INT in the redzone then we score more points against Wisky than anybody has all season.

Wisky has the #2 defense in the country and only allows 262 yards per game.
We gained 377 with Rosier at QB and a bunch of underclassmen at the skill positions. (Thomas, Dallas, Cager, Homer, Harley all made plays) Oh, and we were missing Herndon, Walton and Richards.

My heart and my best intentions tell me Richt can be a good, effective playcaller...but the facts and the evidence tell me, he is not.

Richt, at minimum needs a legitimate co-offensive coordinator. One that is in charge of the run game. You'd figure that should be Thomas Brown's role here, but its clear, his role is recruiting and thats about it. Richt's current offense reminds me of how I'd play NCAA football when I'm only half paying attention. Barely running the ball, nevermind efficiently or effectively, and running the same **** over and over again at times because I don't remember what I just ran.

While he may not have a ton of faith in Rosier, its Richt's job to put Rosier in a place to succeed...and surely, he could do that on occasion considering Rosier's production this year. I saw plenty of times this year where Rosier was efficient and effective...I know he stinks, but I've seen him not stink when the playcalling was there. I've pounded the table over and over again all year long to see more slot bubble screen to Berrios and the TE when Herndon was here. I've pounded the table to run more slants and skinny posts to our tall wide receivers. Yet, these were only only a part of the offense under a handful of times. However, I found Rosier to be the most efficient on these types of routes as they compensated for his lack of ball placement. Richt's use off Rosier as a runner was inefficient as well. Play designs - mostly due to a lack of motion in the offense - put any designed runs into a very precarious position because defenses were never off balance. Sure, there was some effective runs by Rosier, but Rosier himself isn't a definitive runner. He runs like he's got something up his *** and he doesn't put his foot in the dirt and GO. He runs like he's trying to avoid getting touched in two-hand-touch football.

If Richt couldn't get more from Rosier to suit his offense, then maybe he should have bit the bullet and started Perry from the jump and took his lumps or at least split time between the two. The end result likely would have been a 10-3 season anyway. Instead, he sat Perry all year and ate the **** with Rosier. However, every time there was some malfunction in the offense, Richt's body language was simply to blame to Rosier. However, look at the ******* playcalling that didn't exactly put him in a position to succeed. You've got a goal-to-go situation...you run wildcat plays and then run with Rosier. Run some fades? Run some RPO. Run some rollouts. Run some slants. Run some bubble screens with an empty backfield and let your playmakers get into the endzone. I don't know...do SOMETHING ELSE, because clearly, whatever Richt was running, regardless of his opinion of Rosier, stinks.

 

[scrantoncane]

If Richt is going to blindly stick to the RPO, we need a transcendent, natural at QB to be dominant. A Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick who has that innate ability to feel a defense and know how to beat it. I don’t think you can coach that into a guy that doesn’t possess it naturally, as far as it relates to the RPO.

I don’t like Richt’s offense. I find it to be vanilla and predictable. But if we get a superstar QB, we have as good a shot as anyone outside of Bama and Clemson at winning a championship.


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This is not true at all. You don't need a transcendent QB. You need a qb who can make the right decisions on a consistent basis throughout the game. Lets take away the passing decisions. Malik was garbage on his RPO or Zone read give/keep reads all year. I bet if he graded out he would be around 60% accurate decision making.

I would love a kid like Trace McSorely. He isn't all world or transcendent, but he is accurate and makes the offense go. Malik is just what he is.

I’m just not an RPO fan. I think that for it to be effective, you also need to add the zone read element, where the QB run is also a threat.

To implement that, you need a QB who (i) can make a (correct) decision in a second, (ii) is athletic and a threat to run and (iii) is accurate and can go through his progressions. Those guys don’t grow on trees.

Give me an accurate pro-style QB with a little mobility, pair him with Miami caliber skill position players and an above average OL, and I’ll give you a 6th ring. No need for the gimmicky ****.



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[IDCANE]

As [MENTION=477]Big Sky Cane[/MENTION] said in another thread, no excuses next season. It will be Richt's 3rd year and we should have ample talent on offense. I'm very concerned about the direction of the defense, coaching-wise.

Yes. I think I may be more/as concerned with the defense at this point. It seems like we can be phenomenal at letting other teams turn their weakness into a strength and not adjusting. Their QB is horrible but we made him look like Tom Brady. 24/34 and 4 TDs.

Not saying Richt's play calling can't be improved but Rosier was 11/26 and 3 picks. 40/89 with 5 picks in the last three games and only 3 TD's. That's horrible.

I think our offense will be fine. We're missing our best running back, our best WR and our best TE. That's tough to overcome...as is 45% completion rate over 3 games.

 

[GenericYesMan]

No defenses bought into Travis Homer as a big play home run hitter. They never had to play with the fear that Walton brought.

Fundamentally changed our entire offense.

Also, Rosier is a filler on a team with real depth, so whatever it is.

 

[NorthEastCane]

As [MENTION=477]Big Sky Cane[/MENTION] said in another thread, no excuses next season. It will be Richt's 3rd year and we should have ample talent on offense. I'm very concerned about the direction of the defense, coaching-wise.

No excuses next year??? What have you been watching? Our success (or not) will be determined in the trenches. We're going to have a younger OL. Sure you can say addition by subtraction, but starting numerous true freshmen on the line and hoping a LT emerges is not the recipe for success (except maybe against Bethune Cookman, or Toledo). We saw against Clemson how Donaldson fared against real DTs despite his natural ability. We have to hope we hit on all our evaluations and give them at least a year to develop and get stronger before we can reasonably challenge the Clemsons and Bamas which I presume was the objective. Winning the Coastal was merely a long overdue consolation prize.

Nobody thought this was going to be a quick fix.

 

[Jmhcane]

If we need to have vastly superior players to win that suggests our coaches don't know how to maximize their talents.
We lost a lot w Herndon Richards and Walton going down and needing mor imaginative play calling.

 

[RVACane]

As [MENTION=477]Big Sky Cane[/MENTION] said in another thread, no excuses next season. It will be Richt's 3rd year and we should have ample talent on offense. I'm very concerned about the direction of the defense, coaching-wise.

No excuses next year??? What have you been watching? Our success (or not) will be determined in the trenches. We're going to have a younger OL. Sure you can say addition by subtraction, but starting numerous true freshmen on the line and hoping a LT emerges is not the recipe for success (except maybe against Bethune Cookman, or Toledo). We saw against Clemson how Donaldson fared against real DTs despite his natural ability. We have to hope we hit on all our evaluations and give them at least a year to develop and get stronger before we can reasonably challenge the Clemsons and Bamas which I presume was the objective. Winning the Coastal was merely a long overdue consolation prize.

Nobody thought this was going to be a quick fix.

You lose and gain players every year. This will be Richt's 3rd year and he'll have Brevin, Pope, Lingard, a QB and a day 1 full back in addition to OL guys they've been developing. No excuses.