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we are going about this the entire wrong way. we need a coach who that hires only the best coordinators and we pay those guys major money. head coach makes $1m a year max. having a head coach who thinks he knows what he is doing is not working, it is actually hampering us. although this may be extreme it makes perfect sense because if the coordinators are not up to snuff you 86 them. players need to play in systems they can excel in. this gives us the best chance to win. landing dabo, urban or saban is very very rare. get off that stupid train.

that way we can go out and get the best coordinators and this whole allegiance till death do us part BS goes out the window. the philosophy should be winning at all cost. right now it is not even close to that. the philosophy is win maybe but make sure we raise good kids who do things the right way.

it is not that hard. we bring in major AI analysis as well as good position coaches and coordinators. revamp the way we think about a coaching staff. does not mean the head coach loses control, does mean we hire only the best to lead each unit.
 
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With top HC's getting 5-8 million a year, what do you think you're going to get for 1 million? Top coordinators get more than that.
 
First off, there would be NO Dabo without the massive investment Clem$on made in the other facets of their program, including and especially assistant salaries, so in a way, you are definitely on the right track here.

BUT, you can't get top of the line coordinators for less than $1-2M per year. Venables is making I think $2.1, probably even more with incentives and freebies thrown in.

You can't have a head coach making less than the people who report to them. I'm all for taking a novel approach to maximize our resources, but there are limits as well.

Billy Beane for AD.
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
Gary Patterson’s name has been thrown around these boards as a replacement for Richt. TCU is 4-5 and may not make a Bowl this year (their only conference win is a good one, Iowa State, and the Iowa State coach as a replacement for Richt would shut down CIS). Good coach? I think so, but you never truly know what you’re getting.
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Stop the Patterson talk. He isn't going anywhere. He gets royalties from oil deals so long as he is the coach at TCU as an incentive to stay. There is 0.0% chance he leaves TCU, much less comes to Miami.
 
jackedaround said:
yes you can, you circumvent the ncaa by structure.
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What does the NCAA have to do with coaching compensation structure?

The whole point is that your proposal drastically lowballs the HC and that prices you out of the range of many coordinators as you can't pay subordinates more than the head guy.
 
So we should hire a HC that doesn't know what they're doing? Isn't that what we've done the past almost 20 years.
 
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rustywalkedaway said:
1. Who are you getting as HC for $1,000,000 "max"?
2. If you don't pay your HC more than a million, you can't pay your coordinators more than a million. And that cap/range takes you out of the current and future market for many guys. See http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant. Even Randy is making almost a million now.
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With a salary of 1 mil, you have two choices.
You can either go after an unproven coordinator (Yost is awesome but I don't know I want him running the program yet). Or get a coach who has asked to be HC at Miami every time the job has been open. Leach is dying to coach the U, but I don't think he'll take the pay cut. At that salary there is pretty much one legit option, Butch Davis. He has a fantastic coaching tree so we know he picks good assistants. I doubt he'll pay his assistants more than himself though.
 
Vizslacane said:
Stop the Patterson talk. He isn't going anywhere. He gets royalties from oil deals so long as he is the coach at TCU as an incentive to stay. There is 0.0% chance he leaves TCU, much less comes to Miami.
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This is exactly what was said about Richt. If we keep talking about Paterson, watch how we hire him the second TCU fires him.
 
g8rh8rMD said:
First off, there would be NO Dabo without the massive investment Clem$on made in the other facets of their program, including and especially assistant salaries, so in a way, you are definitely on the right track here.

BUT, you can't get top of the line coordinators for less than $1-2M per year. Venables is making I think $2.1, probably even more with incentives and freebies thrown in.

You can't have a head coach making less than the people who report to them. I'm all for taking a novel approach to maximize our resources, but there are limits as well.

Billy Beane for AD.
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Great post.
 
TheEye said:
This is exactly what was said about Richt. If we keep talking about Paterson, watch how we hire him the second TCU fires him.
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I don't remember anyone, here or other, saying Richt was a lock to remain at Georgia. The heat had been on him for several years and it was obviously just a matter of time. Maybe that comes for Patterson too, it does for most coaches, but I don't see real parallels between Richt at Georgia and Patterson at TCU.
 
rustywalkedaway said:
I don't remember anyone, here or other, saying Richt was a lock to remain at Georgia. The heat had been on him for several years and it was obviously just a matter of time. Maybe that comes for Patterson too, it does for most coaches, but I don't see real parallels between Richt at Georgia and Patterson at TCU.
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You might not, but I do. Also, Richt had been offered by Miami multiple times during his tenure at UGA. It wasn't happening. At least, not until they fired him.
 
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