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Vizslacane

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A few months ago I watched a video that was about 6-8 minutes long with south florida DBs and WRs going 1on1 against each other. After about 5 minutes, 1 of the receivers was Pope. It was not Paradise Camp. I've been looking for it and can't find it. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Lutzboy247

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A few months ago I watched a video that was about 6-8 minutes long with south florida DBs and WRs going 1on1 against each other. After about 5 minutes, 1 of the receivers was Pope. It was not Paradise Camp. I've been looking for it and can't find it. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Thanks in advance.

Could have been the Florida Fire tryouts
 

CaliforniaCanes

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Man haven't watched Orlando 1 on 1s in a while...

Gotta say glad we got Hightower, he is a stud.

Pope is just a smooth criminal. He is uncoverable.

Wiggins has the tools.

These drills definitely favor the WR and our DBs did not have a good showing.

Gurvan Halls 1 rep, Tyreke Johnson did not look like a 5 star, and the youngersters Avantae and Diamante got owned pretty hard.

I don't take these 1 v 1 into account for evaluating the DBs as much but overall cant believe how amazing our WR class will be.
 

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Man haven't watched Orlando 1 on 1s in a while...

Gotta say glad we got Hightower, he is a stud.

Pope is just a smooth criminal. He is uncoverable.

Wiggins has the tools.

These drills definitely favor the WR and our DBs did not have a good showing.

Gurvan Halls 1 rep, Tyreke Johnson did not look like a 5 star, and the youngersters Avantae and Diamante got owned pretty hard.

I don't take these 1 v 1 into account for evaluating the DBs as much but overall cant believe how amazing our WR class will be.

The one DB that did look good was Blades. He's so big and really knows how to stay with the WR all the way.
 

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I'm no film junkie by any means, but Pope just looks smooth running routes. Effortless almost.
 

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Don't the WR's generally have a significant advantage in these 1-on-1 drills? That's my impression.

I know the DLs seem to have a big advantage against OLs in the drills.

I'm not an expert, so please educate me.
 

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Don't the WR's generally have a significant advantage in these 1-on-1 drills? That's my impression.

I know the DLs seem to have a big advantage against OLs in the drills.

I'm not an expert, so please educate me.

It's extremely hard for a DB to stay with a WR one on one when the WR can run a 5 sec route. WR should shine in these videos.
 

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Don't the WR's generally have a significant advantage in these 1-on-1 drills? That's my impression.

I know the DLs seem to have a big advantage against OLs in the drills.

I'm not an expert, so please educate me.

It's extremely hard for a DB to stay with a WR one on one when the WR can run a 5 sec route. WR should shine in these videos.

I guess especially in game conditions the one DB might actually get some help at some point, even if they're playing man to man.

Thanks.
 
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Don't the WR's generally have a significant advantage in these 1-on-1 drills? That's my impression.

I know the DLs seem to have a big advantage against OLs in the drills.

I'm not an expert, so please educate me.

It's extremely hard for a DB to stay with a WR one on one when the WR can run a 5 sec route. WR should shine in these videos.

On an island, no help over the top, and no pressure on the QB. Pretty tough for any DB. Can make plenty of good DBs look bad
 

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The f¨ck? Helpful was not the way I was expecting to see this go. This place never stops surprising me.
 

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The f¨ck? Helpful was not the way I was expecting to see this go. This place never stops surprising me.

They know I'm just a pathetic (degenerate) old man. Actually, I asked a relatively reasonable questioin from people more familiar with camps and drills. It seems obvious to me that one-on-one drills, whether WR-DB or OL-DL provide certain advantages to certain positions. I wanted to seek more expert opinions.

I'm careful though when I ask an opinion. A month or so ago a friend who used to play for UM decades ago told me about a LB he was coaching in a HS in the mid-Atlantic area. He had sent the kid's name down to the school, the only player whose name he had ever sent down in decades. The other was his son, who ended up at a different school and then ten years in the NFL. UM showed no interest in his son--just didn't fit from what I could see.

The current prospect looked very good on HUDL but since we haven't heard anything from UM I suspect they've already been focused on a small group of OLBs for months. I decided not to bring the current guy up on this board because I knew it would be inviting a lot of nasty comments and abuse, if only because that's what people do--especially if not a Florida player. Please don't ask me for the name of my friend or his son (who is out of the NFL now) or the name of the current HS player my friend wanted to bring to UM's attention. I suspect the kid will end up at a school in the mid-Atlantic area. Right now, I think he's underrated and under the radar.

I'm just guessing UM is not interested because my friend has not gotten back to me with any news. The kid is being followed by a bunch of ACC schools and MD and some from the Big East on his twitter. For all I know UM might show interest, but everything I read suggests they have a small number of targets at OLB and not that many slots left. (Although it seems like Richt is going through some "exit interviews" right now. No telling how many slots open up.).

These days we have the luxury of being super-selective. Even during JJ's first years we were reaching on some kids, hoping they had identified coachabiliy and upside. They guessed wrong on a lot of kids the first couple of years. JJ's first two years were not nearly as good as many would like to think they were.
 

kryptonite

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The f¨ck? Helpful was not the way I was expecting to see this go. This place never stops surprising me.

They know I'm just a pathetic (degenerate) old man. Actually, I asked a relatively reasonable questioin from people more familiar with camps and drills. It seems obvious to me that one-on-one drills, whether WR-DB or OL-DL provide certain advantages to certain positions. I wanted to seek more expert opinions.

I'm careful though when I ask an opinion. A month or so ago a friend who used to play for UM decades ago told me about a LB he was coaching in a HS in the mid-Atlantic area. He had sent the kid's name down to the school, the only player whose name he had ever sent down in decades. The other was his son, who ended up at a different school and then ten years in the NFL. UM showed no interest in his son--just didn't fit from what I could see.

The current prospect looked very good on HUDL but since we haven't heard anything from UM I suspect they've already been focused on a small group of OLBs for months. I decided not to bring the current guy up on this board because I knew it would be inviting a lot of nasty comments and abuse, if only because that's what people do--especially if not a Florida player. Please don't ask me for the name of my friend or his son (who is out of the NFL now) or the name of the current HS player my friend wanted to bring to UM's attention. I suspect the kid will end up at a school in the mid-Atlantic area. Right now, I think he's underrated and under the radar.

I'm just guessing UM is not interested because my friend has not gotten back to me with any news. The kid is being followed by a bunch of ACC schools and MD and some from the Big East on his twitter. For all I know UM might show interest, but everything I read suggests they have a small number of targets at OLB and not that many slots left. (Although it seems like Richt is going through some "exit interviews" right now. No telling how many slots open up.).

These days we have the luxury of being super-selective. Even during JJ's first years we were reaching on some kids, hoping they had identified coachabiliy and upside. They guessed wrong on a lot of kids the first couple of years. JJ's first two years were not nearly as good as many would like to think they were.

You asked a serious question, and I'm glad to see you got a serious answer. Sometimes (as I'm sure you're aware) the answers get a bit salty.

For what little it's worth, it seems to me that the staff focus on building long-term relationships with SFL kids because of talent level and proximity. After that, they go after top kids who live out of state. I can see their point, they get lots of chances to evaluate local kids, so if an OOS kid doesn't have offers from everybody they may not take the chance on miss-evaluating him.

Anyway, hope this kid finds himself a good situation, wherever that may be.
 
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