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With new facility on the horizon and tickets selling briskly, Mark Richt settles in for third season at Miami

Didn’t know that was included in the ipf cost, makes sense now. Here is an example of Texas recent lockerreoom upgrade.
 
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I think people need to have a bit of perspective when comparing "locker rooms".

Let's not forget, most of these programs have on-campus stadiums. They play and practice in, largely, the same space.

I'm not arguing that we shouldn't have nice things, only that programs like Texas use their stadium locker rooms as a big selling point to boosters. I have also toured the Cowboys' stadium twice, they even have nice locker rooms for the cheerleaders.

Our locker rooms, on-campus, will be redone. But they will likely never be as fancy as the ones you find in on-campus SEC/Big 10 stadiums.

I would rather have UM spend the money on the weight room (justified) as well as recovery areas and nutrition areas. The fancy "this is where I put my stuff when I'm playing the game" locker room stuff is really just to impress the fans and boosters. Spend the money on making the players better.


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TheOriginalCane said:
I think people need to have a bit of perspective when comparing "locker rooms".

Let's not forget, most of these programs have on-campus stadiums. They play and practice in, largely, the same space.

I'm not arguing that we shouldn't have nice things, only that programs like Texas use their stadium locker rooms as a big selling point to boosters. I have also toured the Cowboys' stadium twice, they even have nice locker rooms for the cheerleaders.

Our locker rooms, on-campus, will be redone. But they will likely never be as fancy as the ones you find in on-campus SEC/Big 10 stadiums.

I would rather have UM spend the money on the weight room (justified) as well as recovery areas and nutrition areas. The fancy "this is where I put my stuff when I'm playing the game" locker room stuff is really just to impress the fans and boosters. Spend the money on making the players better.


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They could, the new custom Texas custom locker only cost 8700 each. There are what 125 lockers in each lockerroom? For that to be done that would cost just under 1,100,000. Don’t have to be the best but they need to be modernized. One could say that Georgia tech and Georgia state has a better locker room than what Miami has right now. I’m also excited about the new weight room Miami is getting too
 
brock said:
They could, the new custom Texas custom locker only cost 8700 each. There are what 125 lockers in each lockerroom? For that to be done that would cost just under 1,100,000. Don’t have to be the best but they need to be modernized. One could say that Georgia tech and Georgia state has a better locker room than what Miami has right now. I’m also excited about the new weight room Miami is getting too
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Go back and re-read. We ARE modernizing, I am just pointing out that the "fanciness" factor can be overblown. Those schools always post the slick videos with the shiny exterior. Here's what you REALLY need in a locker room - good ventilation, a separate locking interior area for valuables, a charging cord, etc.

As for your "one could say" nonsense, again, compare apples-to-apples. If you are talking about the Hard Rock locker rooms, they are very nice. Now we are renovating the Hecht locker rooms. Some schools are "fortunate" in that they can do it all in one shot (i.e., on-campus stadium). But, again, you expose how you are commenting on everything about UM from a basement in Atlanta. Stop comparing UM to Georgia and Georgia Tech.

That's all.

Throw all the money at weight rooms, nutrition rooms, film rooms, study rooms, etc. Build a decent on-campus locker room that spends the cash on less-obvious features.

Recruit by showing these kids Coral Gables and South Beach, not some luxurious locker room when the rest of the cow-town sucks.


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"Only" $8700 each?

I know college football is being flooded by cash but IMO that is money poorly spent. We don't need that kind of thing to build a championhsip program down here.

I like the path we are on. I read a while back that Blake James called us a boutique 5 Star hotel as opposed to a massive resort. That is the continued identity we need to have going forward.

We of course have to spend big money, but don't have to outspend to succeed.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Go back and re-read. We ARE modernizing, I am just pointing out that the "fanciness" factor can be overblown. Those schools always post the slick videos with the shiny exterior. Here's what you REALLY need in a locker room - good ventilation, a separate locking interior area for valuables, a charging cord, etc.

As for your "one could say" nonsense, again, compare apples-to-apples. If you are talking about the Hard Rock locker rooms, they are very nice. Now we are renovating the Hecht locker rooms. Some schools are "fortunate" in that they can do it all in one shot (i.e., on-campus stadium). But, again, you expose how you are commenting on everything about UM from a basement in Atlanta. Stop comparing UM to Georgia and Georgia Tech.

That's all.

Throw all the money at weight rooms, nutrition rooms, film rooms, study rooms, etc. Build a decent on-campus locker room that spends the cash on less-obvious features.

Recruit by showing these kids Coral Gables and South Beach, not some luxurious locker room when the rest of the cow-town sucks.


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The basement in Atlanta thing funny man . You are so persistent with it lol. It wasn’t a shot by any means but just saying how ga tech locker room looks after their recent renovation and ga state just had one last year too.

You don’t think it’s needed since uf last year just announced plans for their new football operations facility that included a renovation of the Locker room and FSU is about theirs too which I’m sure will have updated looks?
 
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"Only" $8700 each?

I know college football is being flooded by cash but IMO that is money poorly spent. We don't need that kind of thing to build a championhsip program down here.

I like the path we are on. I read a while back that Blake James called us a boutique 5 Star hotel as opposed to a massive resort. That is the continued identity we need to have going forward.

We of course have to spend big money, but don't have to outspend to succeed.
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They are raising additional funds which exceeds the cost of the ipf that they already met at 35 million
 
brock said:
The basement in Atlanta thing funny man . You are so persistent with it lol. It wasn’t a shot by any means but just saying how ga tech locker room looks after their recent renovation and ga state just had one last year too.

You don’t think it’s needed since uf last year just announced plans for their new football operations facility that included a renovation of the Locker room and FSU is about theirs too which I’m sure will have updated looks?
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Brock, you know I bust your balls, but I have been a student and alum of UM since 1986. My perspective on our history is quite different from yours.

While I can joke with you, I am still very insistent that we need to build our own culture and standards, and not let our eyeballs bug out every time some other team like Clemson builds a playground or waterslides or whatever.

I had to work in Greenville, SC for 9 months last year. That is a very different world from Miami. I understand Clemson building a lot of silly stuff to catch the attention of recruits, you do need a lot of distractions living in that part of SC. I simply believe we can create a substantial distinction in how we go about things. If we devote most of our money to showing these recruits how we are going to spend 3-5 years preparing them for the NFL, with recovery support and nutrition support, etc., I do believe that will trump waterslides.

As Mark Richt has pointed out on numerous occasions (and now we need to see it live), he observed many other IPF facilities and tried to create some interesting distinctions in ours, such as the area where coaches can observe practice.

That's all I'm saying. Observe what others are doing. Adapt it and improve upon it, but don't act like everything is a fancy "arms race". We don't have to match every other competitor's locker room. We don't need as many uniform combos as Oregon. We just need to do Miami the way that we should. Pride. Family. Toughness. Support. Alums. NFL standards.

F those Texas locker rooms. Let the Longhorns be like Al Bundy, always dreaming of their school football glory days.

F them.


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TheOriginalCane said:
Brock, you know I bust your balls, but I have been a student and alum of UM since 1986. My perspective on our history is quite different from yours.

While I can joke with you, I am still very insistent that we need to build our own culture and standards, and not let our eyeballs bug out every time some other team like Clemson builds a playground or waterslides or whatever.

I had to work in Greenville, SC for 9 months last year. That is a very different world from Miami. I understand Clemson building a lot of silly stuff to catch the attention of recruits, you do need a lot of distractions living in that part of SC. I simply believe we can create a substantial distinction in how we go about things. If we devote most of our money to showing these recruits how we are going to spend 3-5 years preparing them for the NFL, with recovery support and nutrition support, etc., I do believe that will trump waterslides.

As Mark Richt has pointed out on numerous occasions (and now we need to see it live), he observed many other IPF facilities and tried to create some interesting distinctions in ours, such as the area where coaches can observe practice.

That's all I'm saying. Observe what others are doing. Adapt it and improve upon it, but don't act like everything is a fancy "arms race". We don't have to match every other competitor's locker room. We don't need as many uniform combos as Oregon. We just need to do Miami the way that we should. Pride. Family. Toughness. Support. Alums. NFL standards.

F those Texas locker rooms. Let the Longhorns be like Al Bundy, always dreaming of their school football glory days.

F them.


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Valid points man.
 
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brock said:
They are raising additional funds which exceeds the cost of the ipf that they already met at 35 million
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Brock, as a tax attorney, allow me to point out something very important to you.

The disastrous Republican tax reform has changed the rules on the deductibility of contributions made to university athletic departments.

I'm not saying that other schools might not be able to line up the cash, but fund-raising (particularly for capital improvements) is not going to be as easy in the future.

We can say "only $8,700 each", but let's see how many people on this board are cutting $10K checks to UM.

I've given a lot of money to UM over the years (and yes I know that UM's endowment is sizable), but there isn't a huge line of boosters who are floating $10K at a time for some fancy PRACTICE locker rooms.

Just sayin'...


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That Texas upgrade looked nice.

But I didn't see the shoe/boot scrapers.

To scrape the cow schitt off your shoes when you enter . . .
 
Paranos said:
They just remodeled the locker rooms a few years ago. The money should be spent to further enhance the weight room. Or bring in some additional staff.



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Considering we are getting a new weight room which richt already confirmed in that article it appears at least small proportion of the money raised for the ipf will go towards the renovation of the lockerroom since he stated that as a renovation too.
 
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I like what we have now, and I am sure we will upgrade it to an extent when we redo the locker room area. But I just don’t see us having to keep up with the Joneses ala what UT built. To other’s points and posts, we don’t have locker rooms under or adjacent to our stadium. We don’t even have an on-campus stadium to play on. Ours is a very unique experience, given playing in a modernized NFL stadium, and having our locker rooms on campus. I think adding a few new elements here or there would do, and yes; having the extra funds from the IPF fund raiser will help us accomplish that goal. But I think what we have to offer (championship caliber program, South Beach, NFL alumni, the U family) are elements no other school can duplicate. Those should be our selling points to new recruits, not some multi-million dollar locker room they go change in, and get ready for game day. We don’t have the money to keep up with these bigger schools nor should we have to do so. We are the **** U - that alone separates us from the rest.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Brock, you know I bust your balls, but I have been a student and alum of UM since 1986. My perspective on our history is quite different from yours.

While I can joke with you, I am still very insistent that we need to build our own culture and standards, and not let our eyeballs bug out every time some other team like Clemson builds a playground or waterslides or whatever.

I had to work in Greenville, SC for 9 months last year. That is a very different world from Miami. I understand Clemson building a lot of silly stuff to catch the attention of recruits, you do need a lot of distractions living in that part of SC. I simply believe we can create a substantial distinction in how we go about things. If we devote most of our money to showing these recruits how we are going to spend 3-5 years preparing them for the NFL, with recovery support and nutrition support, etc., I do believe that will trump waterslides.

As Mark Richt has pointed out on numerous occasions (and now we need to see it live), he observed many other IPF facilities and tried to create some interesting distinctions in ours, such as the area where coaches can observe practice.

That's all I'm saying. Observe what others are doing. Adapt it and improve upon it, but don't act like everything is a fancy "arms race". We don't have to match every other competitor's locker room. We don't need as many uniform combos as Oregon. We just need to do Miami the way that we should. Pride. Family. Toughness. Support. Alums. NFL standards.

F those Texas locker rooms. Let the Longhorns be like Al Bundy, always dreaming of their school football glory days.

F them.


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Would it be fair to say that by being able to use an NFL stadium for our home games, it might give us a financial advantage to some degree in that we don't have to put money into maintaining an on campus stadium and can direct funds to on campus facilities - ie., weight rooms, nutrition programs and facilities, etc?
 
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Broke, man.

Read your own fracking post which started this thread.

They are redoing the lockerroom. End of story.

Or is it because they’re not going to have gloryholes in the wall with tired old hag boosters on the other end, like at Clemson?
 
It's going to become a lot easier to sell the school/campus/facilites once the IPF and new housing is completed. First steps were the Schwartz Center and HRS renovations. Almost there.
 
423Hurricane said:
Would it be fair to say that by being able to use an NFL stadium for our home games, it might give us a financial advantage to some degree in that we don't have to put money into maintaining an on campus stadium and can direct funds to on campus facilities - ie., weight rooms, nutrition programs and facilities, etc?
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Yes, there is a financial advantage on the locker rooms, but you also lose the benefit of customization (i.e., some kid doesn't have "his own" locker at Hard Rock). As for the rest of the stadium, I agree. Now, if we were capable of selling 100K tickets, but our stadium only held 65K, there might be a bigger issue.

The players will be at Hard Rock for 7 half-days. They will spend the rest of their time on campus. Spend the money on campus facilities that make them bigger, faster, smarter, and stronger.

I'm not mad at Brock, I just refuse to be pulled into the "did you see what Texas just built" nonsense.


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