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Refusing to replace QB coach cause for Termination?

For_The_U said:
Because football/staff decisions, whether family members or not, don't fall under termination for cause provisions. Those are reserved for massive improprieties, not bad coaching decisions.
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To me, our QB play has been a massive impropriety....only half kidding
 
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Defiantly grasping at straws......

But Florida is a right to work state and insubordination can be grounds for immediate discipline including termination.
 
If Miami doesn’t have performance stipulations in the contract (especially after golden) then the people calling the shots are not helping
 
BigCaneAl said:
To me, our QB play has been a massive impropriety....only half kidding
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Lol i feel ya. And didnt mean to come across so hostile in my first post. My apologies. Was up way too late watching UFC and up way too early with a crying baby. Woke up full of **** and vinegar this morning! Lol

The decision is indefensible, no doubt. It just wouldn't constitute grounds for termination for cause is all.
 
BigCaneAl said:
Explain why then? There has to be a provision in the contract regarding termination for cause. New level of dumb, around here, is pretty strong don’t you think.
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Termination for cause involves some big issue which is still often the source of litigation. You would need to find some illegal act Richt did, willful misconduct or some duty he breached. Even though its his job to win, its highly unlikely a coaching contract has some duty to win clause.
 
warpigs58 said:
Hopefully Richt realizes that if he goes down this path that he and his son will be forever toxic and no other school would ever consider hiring either....
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If he had any professional self respect he’d resign and spare his dad. It’s best for the family too....unfortunately it would be almost impossible for him to find a job at a comparable level.
 
stormbrewing said:
If Miami doesn’t have performance stipulations in the contract (especially after golden) then the people calling the shots are not helping
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There are very few people that can coach at this level. The coaches have the leverage. That's why when a school finds a coach that wins, they are quick to give him extensions and perks and they can negotiate favorable terms. In almost every state a college coach is the highest paid public employee. Until last year it was Jimbo in Florida. In Alabama Nick Saban gets a 2.4 million dollar pension. That's apart from his salary.
 
For_The_U said:
Because football/staff decisions, whether family members or not, don't fall under termination for cause provisions. Those are reserved for massive improprieties, not bad coaching decisions.
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Exactly. Then what would be the point of contracts if the school could just say you coached poorly therefore you aren’t entitled to the buyout.
 
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It still boggles my mind that Blake James signed off on Richt hiring his 25 year old son who had no real experience, to coach the most important position on a football team....

Totally makes sense now, why Kaaya left a year early!
 
Canesq said:
Exactly. Then what would be the point of contracts if the school could just say you coached poorly therefore you aren’t entitled to the buyout.
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Understood, but is it possible to argue that he's not performing his responsibilities with regard to his staff, and management, because of nepotism? Really just wondering if this presents an opportunity to at least force Richts hand. Even if the legal foundation is probably dubious.

Believe it or not, people at UM read this stuff.
 
BigCaneAl said:
Understood, but is it possible to argue that he's not performing his responsibilities with regard to his staff, and management, because of nepotism?
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Mark has been the HC for three FULL seasons. His QB coach has been his ***** for that WHOLE time. Now we're crying "nepotism" as a way to fire him? We consented to this bullchit. This is what you get when you have our decision makers and Blake James.

Perhaps there should have been some standard in place before this ever began.

Perhaps he shouldn't have been allowed to be his own OC to begin with too.

Perhaps we should stop extending these dipchits too.

Mark is doing what he wants because he can do what he wants. This is RICHTirement. This is his last stop. He is getting everyone paid and doing it his way.
 
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BigCaneAl said:
Understood, but is it possible to argue that he's not performing his responsibilities with regard to his staff, and management, because of nepotism? Really just wondering if this presents an opportunity to at least force Richts hand. Even if the legal foundation is probably dubious.

Believe it or not, people at UM read this stuff.
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Highly unlikely. Contracts can be very simple or extremely complex. Sometimes, there are certain clauses that are implied either by law or by what's customary to that industry. Coaches get fired and usually get some large buyout, which tells you that generally a duty to win isn't part of a coaching contract. Head coaches almost always hire their own staff or bring certain people with them (his guys). It's not uncommon for a coach to hire a relative so that's not some weird thing that might give you the possibility of an escape.
It sounds like you might be pointing towards RIcht not acting in good faith with his hiring decisions, but then you are getting into subjective intent. In other words, what's in his head. You're going to have a hard time proving that he is acting with ill will.
 
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UMFarArcher said:
I don't know what this is all about -

But Richt is guilty of fraud.

Impersonating a football coach.
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Richt was an HC at a P5 program for 15 years. We knew that he was fired at UGA for failing to get them where they wanted to go. We knew all of this and we still hired him. We weren't defrauded; our decision makers are just dipchits.
 
As incompetent as Lil John as shown himself to, is there any half- decent Qb recruit who would actually consider coming here? Another big reason Lil John should be gone, and. Richt with him, if something isn't done about the situation.
 
Nepotism isn't the issue, we were clearly ok with it. The issue is our QB's suck and he is the QB coach.
 
BigCaneAl said:
Understood, but is it possible to argue that he's not performing his responsibilities with regard to his staff, and management, because of nepotism? Really just wondering if this presents an opportunity to at least force Richts hand. Even if the legal foundation is probably dubious.

Believe it or not, people at UM read this stuff.
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No it is not possible since they knew his son was going to be on the staff.

That’s not how firing for cause works.

The real question is if richt is the only person allowed to hire and fire coaches, what can Blake do?

And if he Blake can fire Jon assuming dad refuses, then what?

And if Blake can fire Jon the qb coach can Blake fire the playcaller? If so that would make Richt just a head coach/ceo of the program which is not what he wanted and hated being that at Georgia.

Would be interesting to see his contract provisions.
 
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