Reason Players May Be Checking Out

[Garnacho]

Miami was a top 40 school for a year or two at most. This was only because the shalala admin was gaming the rankings. Her primary focus was raising the us news ranking, and she gamed the system for a short term jump.

It was never going to be sustained. Miami is sunshine U, not some academic powerhouse. This is coming from an alum. The folks here who talk about how Miami is an ivy of the south are delusional.

UM started an aggressive academic push in the late 80s / early early 90s. I was admitted in early 90s and remember UM being comp to Tulane and USCw. At the time it was a much better school than FSU and slightly better than UF. I feel like UM might of been at the cusp of the Top 40.

100% agree that Shalala fanagled is to an inflated ranking.

But what is happening right now is unacceptable.

 

[TC@ne]

Miami is no longer a hard school to get in to. I know parents whose kids could not get in to UF or FSU but got scholarships to Miami. Admissions is more based on race than testing now at UM. Maybe you haven’t been keeping up but our undergrad is ranked with Florida State and our Law School is now a complete joke.

Uhh what? I’m a senior right now who had more than solid scores and I know people getting denied acceptance right now with near identical grades and scores.

Yes UF and FSU are improving, but that doesn’t mean by default UM is getting worse lol

 

[Garnacho]

Uhh what? I’m a senior right now who had more than solid scores and I know people getting denied acceptance right now with near identical grades and scores.

Yes UF and FSU are improving, but that doesn’t mean by default UM is getting worse lol

LMFAO at grades and scores having anything to do with acceptance

 

[Calvin]

During the Shalala tenure a lot of things changed especially the inner workings of the football program including academic requirements that are pretty much BS - it is about as easy to get into Stanford and Duke.

I have a question for any fans or lurkers that are in the know. Correct me if I am wrong, but a coach can dismiss a player and take away a scholly? Is that correct? For example if Coach Saban had a kicker that couldn't actually kick a football that player would be in breach and grounds for scholarship removal would be forthcoming. I have a suspicion that responsibility of certain aspects of the FB coach were taken and as well taken from the AD under Shalala and that is why these beeches are allowed in. Who is the compliance person that screens who coach can recruit??? That's the joker.

Here's why that's important. If these players can basically never be fired they will always do what they want to do. I really think the problem is at the BoT and AD level. If I were to cross check who was hired during Shalala's tenure and who is here now... those are the people undermining the program. And those fck heads need to brought into the light of day.

You not crazy man, its was and has been an inside job, and flake james is definitely in the way of football success, along with the countless pussies that want to be somehow associated with the past success of UM football, but somehow they think they can get that same level of success with all these bullshat parameters. They want the success but never wanted the type of players that brought it. You got all these B.O.T.'s and A.D.'s who dont know how to stay in their lanes and want to consistently try and mix and mingle with the players. In the old days they were scared to come around the players, even in the butch davis years,, and so what, that's why you hire guys like jimmy, dennis and even a butch davis who wasnt dumb enuff to not recruit the right minded kind of players.

Here's one thing for certain, the most successful headcoaches at UM never got along with the administration, and the coaches who have got fired, with the exception of coach richt. So coach diaz has to decide what he's going to do, go all in with for the players or try and dibble and dabble between both, if he wants football success im sure he knows what the smart move is, cause at the end of the day, the same cowards that helped to hire you, will be the same cowards that'll be calling for his head sooner than later, so in the end, he might as well do it his way, which is why coach richt told flake james to ***** off, he didnt need his suggestions on staff personnel, cause coach richt was smart enuff to know if you gone go down go down doing it your way and let morons who never even been coaches at no level try and dictate to you what needs to be done!

 

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[Hurricane23]

So we're bad athletically and academically...time to close shop lol

 

[casualcane]

 

[TC@ne]

LMFAO at grades and scores having anything to do with acceptance

So based on your logic my white *** shouldn’t have gotten in yet here I am.

You should turn your owl head 180 degrees back around and walk away, you’re just spewing shxt.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

So based on your logic my white *** shouldn’t have gotten in yet here I am.

You should turn your owl head 180 degrees back around and walk away, you’re just spewing shxt.

My son got a Foote scholarship. Doesn't need it as he is on a full-ride through AFROTC. The kid looks pretty "vanilla" to me...lol.

 

[Garnacho]

So based on your logic my white *** shouldn’t have gotten in yet here I am.

You should turn your owl head 180 degrees back around and walk away, you’re just spewing shxt.

You are not doing yourself any favors

No, that’s not applying my logic. You failed there

If you are white, you obviously either tested well or tested well enough for your parents to pay full tuition. But at the University of Miami, like many Universities these days, including Harvard and the UC system, diversity is more important than test scores. That’s why a group of Asian parents in the Bay Area filed suite in California.

Your buddy not getting in to MiamI has nothing to do with another person being accepted. Miami has an acceptance rate of less than 40%. A lot of people are not getting in and has more to do with diversity than test scores

But forget all that. Acceptance has nothing to do with UM free falling in academic ranking and Bar results. And you cannot say I’m spewing because I provided the rankings and the bar results

 

[TC@ne]

You are not doing yourself any favors

No, that’s not applying my logic. You failed there

If you are white, you obviously either tested well or tested well enough for your parents to pay full tuition. But at the University of Miami, like many Universities these days, including Harvard and the UC system, diversity is more important than test scores. That’s why a group of Asian parents in the Bay Area filed suite in California.

Your buddy not getting in to MiamI has nothing to do with another person being accepted. Miami has an acceptance rate of less than 40%. A lot of people are not getting in and has more to do with diversity than test scores

But forget all that. Acceptance has nothing to do with UM free falling in academic ranking and Bar results. And you cannot say I’m spewing because I provided the rankings and the bar results

I’m fully aware that acceptance rates are not directly correlated to a school’s academic ranking.

But you’re living in a world full of absolutes where that’s just not how it works. Of course diversity plays a role. But acting like test scores and aptitude are irrelevant is simply wrong.

I can’t speak on the law school because I have little to no knowledge there, but the business school is easily as good as its ever been. The professors are elite and the new donation from the Herberts is unprecedented.

Also if you go by US News and World Report, those are extremely biased and factor in many variables including tuition cost, to the point that the education quality is almost moot.

 

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Opened this thread eager to figure out why the players would be checking out.

 

[Garnacho]

I’m fully aware that acceptance rates are not directly correlated to a school’s academic ranking.

But you’re living in a world full of absolutes where that’s just not how it works. Of course diversity plays a role. But acting like test scores and aptitude are irrelevant is simply wrong.

I can’t speak on the law school because I have little to no knowledge there, but the business school is easily as good as its ever been. The professors are elite and the new donation from the Herberts is unprecedented.

Also if you go by US News and World Report, those are extremely biased and factor in many variables including tuition cost, to the point that the education quality is almost moot.

I'm not living in a world of absolutes. I never said test scores were irrelevant. Never. I said diversity is more important. That's because the Chairwoman of the Board of the University of Miami has said it herself multiple times.

I'm not going to fight you too hard on the business school. I hold a BBA from the mid 90s. I personally feel that the business school reached a peak in the early 2000s. I was there before the new building which was probably erected in 1998ish. That brought a lot of prestige to the business school. But the Heberts committed to the donation because it was needed. But isn't most of that donation for the new climate change business program? On that - the implementation of Master of Science in Sustainable Business program is not what the school needs at this point. Things have fallen too far to be starting programs that are imo, based on a political talking point.

US News and World Report are by far the most accurate ranking system available. Its been around for over 25 years and you are in denial if you do not think it is close to accurate.

One thing I can promise you - I am on your side. What the admin has done to the University in terms of academics and athletics is unacceptable.

 

[Garnacho]

My son got a Foote scholarship. Doesn't need it as he is on a full-ride through AFROTC. The kid looks pretty "vanilla" to me...lol.

Your kid could go absolutely anywhere if he received a Type 1 AFROTC scholly. Those are extremely rare. Congrats. Is he hellbent on being a pilot? The Foote program is pretty **** prestigious.

 

[BoxingRobes]

Miami is no longer a hard school to get in to. I know parents whose kids could not get in to UF or FSU but got scholarships to Miami. Admissions is more based on race than testing now at UM. Maybe you haven’t been keeping up but our undergrad is ranked with Florida State and our Law School is now a complete joke.

Brother Owl...you need to keep fighting the good fight.

But, this post does not have a single true thing in it.

I've been involved in HS -> College Admissions and I would love to see the application of the kid that didn't get into FSU but got scholarships from Miami. I would wager money - if this is true - it is the only person in the entire school that got into Miami but not FSU.

I can not tell you how easy it is for a student to get into FSU. I've seen students get rejected to FIU (which is actually not an easy school to get into) but get into FSU.

FSU's CARE Program almost assures me that your claim is false, but I am just taking you at face value.

 

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Because Donna cares about football...

Those pictures **** me off. Damnit

 

[Uom2001]

A true crime against humanity. I'll never forgive Miami politicians and that *****, or Joe Robbie for that matter. The Fins still suffer from his hubris. But our suffering comes for the first two parties.

Robbie's mistake was building the stadium on an ancient Indian tribe's burial ground or however that story goes. Teams are cursed (although the Marlins did win 2 world series). The Dolphins are just a disaster from when they were a proud model franchise.

 

[plantcity3]

Brother Owl...you need to keep fighting the good fight.

But, this post does not have a single true thing in it.

I've been involved in HS -> College Admissions and I would love to see the application of the kid that didn't get into FSU but got scholarships from Miami. I would wager money - if this is true - it is the only person in the entire school that got into Miami but not FSU.

I can not tell you how easy it is for a student to get into FSU. I've seen students get rejected to FIU (which is actually not an easy school to get into) but get into FSU.

FSU's CARE Program almost assures me that your claim is false, but I am just taking you at face value.

I can back up what you are saying as far as the care program. I was a preferred walk on there and they had me go through the care program so that I could start workouts and school that summer before my first year. It’s definitely a program for minorities. They requirements then were only: 1st generation college student (which is bs, cause my parents went to college), 3.0 weighted gpa, and 19 act or 990 sat.

Idk if UM has a program like that but a far amount of minorities at fsu start off through their Care bridge program

 

[mdpcane]

Robbie's mistake was building the stadium on an ancient Indian tribe's burial ground or however that story goes. Teams are cursed (although the Marlins did win 2 world series). The Dolphins are just a disaster from when they were a proud model franchise.

call em crazy but there are many many fans who believe the Fins and the Canes are cursed and its related to leaving the Orange Bowl. sure can't argue with them based on results since the teams left the OB.

 

[AlphaMarshan]

I can back up what you are saying as far as the care program. I was a preferred walk on there and they had me go through the care program so that I could start workouts and school that summer before my first year. It’s definitely a program for minorities. They requirements then were only: 1st generation college student (which is bs, cause my parents went to college), 3.0 weighted gpa, and 19 act or 990 sat.

Idk if UM has a program like that but a far amount of minorities at fsu start off through their Care bridge program

990 SAT???