Real talk - why the old guard of the UM BOT doesn't want Jurich

I’ll never get why, like Butch Davis, this place becomes so obsessively enamored with guys literally no other programs will touch with a ten foot pole.
No other program would touch Pitino and look what he’s doing at Iona. No other program would touch Freeze and look what he’s done at Liberty. When you are as far behind as Miami is, you have to take a chance on someone who gives you a competitive advantage.

The risk to reward here is heavily swayed in favor of the reward. Jurich was cleared in the investigation. Idk why Miami has to be like every other program in staying away from Jurich, when all everyone says is “Miami is different.” So be different and prosper.
 
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How is he going to get the program cancelled?

The NCAA is hanging on by a string. They have no teeth right now. If you are ever going to do it, now is the time.

Selective enforcement worked before NIL. Now? You’re gonna enforce at Miami but not SEC schools? I think Miami would have the ACC behind them, which would trickle down to the other non-SEC P5 conferences.

This is the kind of unfounded worry that I feel is plaguing the thought process of the BOT. Everyone else is gambling. If UM doesn’t do the same, it will get left behind. And soon enough those 5 rings are going to be so far in the past that we are gonna be Nebraska.

I understand and somewhat share this sentiment, but the NCAA is far from toothless. If anything, they'd get more bang for their buck and restoration of their power and prestige by hammering us now than at any time in history.

Just consider the story that OP posted. It's from four years ago, and sure most of us football and sports die hards are familiar with many aspects of the story, but just how many clicks did it get? How much run on SportsCenter did it get? Was it reported on mainstream news channels? Does anyone who doesn't read and post on sports message boards every day know any of it??? Now, change the name from UL to UM and imagine what happens with that story.

We're all familiar and we all know exactly what has happened with far less founded innuendo. Prostitutes and strippers in on campus dorms paid for by assistant coaches? Yeah, NIL or not, that kind of crap can still get us cancelled.

At the end of the day, if the option is Patsy Flynn, er I mean Jenn Strawley and Geno, yeah, I'll take Jurich. But we can and should be able to do better. **** it, just back up the truck to the USC AD who just pulled off the hire of the decade. Jurich is not the only guy out there who can do the job is my point. We shouldn't necessarily be so eager to settle on him just because we know UM is too inept to do things the right way and the alternative is sticking a bunch of slappy's together in a room and say "problem solved, meaningful and transformational change accomplished".
 
As "compromise names" with "qualified resumes" emerge (Nunez), we need to stop debating the "merits of this guy vs. the drawbacks of that guy".

From a pure resume standpoint, Jurich is the best candidate and has accomplished the most.

But to the old guard of the BOT, he represents an Alpha who will become the most powerful person on the campus, and someone who will build an independent power base. The only prior comparable that UM has is Sam Jankovich, and we have Emeriti Trustees who were around for the Jankovich years, so let's not act like this is ancient history.

I am going to post a link to an ESPN article FROM FOUR YEARS AGO. If any of us can Google it in 5 seconds, then it is just as easy for an old guard Trustee to read this and get scared about letting Jurich take UM into the future.

I'll also cut-paste some relevant lines, for the "Cliff's Notes" crowd.

Short summary, this is NOT the UM BOT saying "we want a puppet". This is the old guard saying "we don't want an Alpha Jankovich that will eclipse our power".

Enjoy (or not)...



The morning after the FBI's announcement, Dr. Gregory Postel, the interim president, removed not only Hall of Fame basketball coach Rick Pitino but also athletic director Tom Jurich, one of the state's most powerful people. Over the past 20 years, Jurich had built a sports empire on top of a midlevel commuter school near the Ohio River, transforming the campus and infusing a genteel Southern city that lacked a professional team with the excitement of big-time sports. Jurich was so successful generating money that "I wished I could turn them upside down and shake out their pocket change for the academic side," says Thomas B. Byers, a professor emeritus in the English department.

Jurich is a man of average height, but even at 61, he carries himself with a pugnacious, intimidating intensity. Charming and warm one minute, he is sometimes defensive and suspicious. As athletic director, Jurich rarely texted or used email, fearful it could be used against him. "Why have more fodder for people?" he says. "You know how I communicated with people? I picked up the phone, and I went to their face." Since the university began digging into his records, he says, "That's the question I get most: 'How do you conduct business?' Well, I think we conducted it pretty **** good."

Louisville's athletics budget then was $16.5 million. Jurich embarked on an ambitious growth strategy that would solve Louisville's Title IX problems and build up nonrevenue sports such as swimming and soccer while ensuring that the basketball and football teams were successful enough to support the enterprise.

The strategy required prodigious cash; by this year, Louisville's athletics budget was up to $104.5 million. "He treated his donors like investors," says Jurich's friend Larry Benz, a member of the Louisville Athletic Association, which oversees the department. Jurich built $280 million in arenas, playing fields and athletic offices by convincing rich people of the facilities' vital importance. "I can give $5 million to stem cell research and it's gonna help stem cell research," says Dr. Mark Lynn, an optometry-chain owner whose name adorns the soccer complex. "I give $5 million to a soccer stadium and it's gonna help everything." Lynn says sports bring the school visibility.

Waldron, the sports marketing director, calls Jurich "probably the finest leader I ever worked for," pointing out that he promoted women inside and outside the department. "He's a feminist, really," she says.

MUCH OF THE athletic department's finances was shrouded in secrecy, hidden from the Louisville Athletic Association and the board of trustees. Two former trustees told Outside the Lines that they were unaware of large real estate transactions involving the athletic department and the Louisville Foundation, the school's endowment, which raises money for education and research.

Dawn Heinecken, a professor who sits on the athletic association board, says the board learned about the Adidas deal "after it was announced publicly. That was the first I heard about it."

James Ramsey, who was president of both the university and the foundation, resigned last year amid allegations that he mismanaged endowment funds. Ramsey and Jurich had a close working relationship: Ramsey, in secret, approved additional compensation that earned Jurich an average of $2.77 million annually over the past seven years and approved several real estate transactions that benefited the athletic department. The Louisville Courier-Journal reported that Jurich's perks included tax "gross-ups" -- meaning the university paid some of his taxes -- membership in three country clubs and premium seats at the Kentucky Derby.

Jurich pulled in far more than the $1.4 million base salary that ranked him among the highest-paid ADs in the nation. Including other compensation, he earned $5.3 million in 2016, which, as The Courier-Journal points out, was more than the budgets of the biology, English, history and math departments. Jurich and his wife have vacation homes in Clearwater Beach and in Steamboat Springs, Colorado. Their son Mark, a former pro baseball player, was paid an average of $133,545 to work as senior associate athletic director for development. To circumvent Louisville's nepotism policy, most of that salary was paid by the Louisville Foundation. Earlier this year, before the Adidas deal was announced, Jurich's daughter Haley, who has experience in sports marketing, was hired by the company to serve as a liaison between Adidas and Louisville. (She was initially placed on administrative leave after the FBI scandal and is planning to move to company headquarters in Portland, Oregon.) Pitino was to make $7.7 million this season in total pay. He is suing the Louisville Athletic Association for more than $35 million, as well as Adidas, which terminated a personal services contract that was believed to pay him well over $1 million annually.

And let's not overlook THIS gem:

The athletic department's unfettered growth was undented by the scandals that occurred under Jurich's watch. Jurich refused to fire Pitino despite a string of public embarrassments, including Pitino's affair with a woman who was later sent to prison for trying to extort him, and "Strippergate," in which a Pitino assistant coach, over a period of four years, brought in dancers and prostitutes to entertain recruits at a university dorm. Louisville is appealing NCAA sanctions for Strippergate and if denied will be stripped of 123 wins, including its 2013 national title. In 2013, Jurich retained a former assistant football coach, even after the NCAA had sanctioned the coach for receiving and handing out thousands of dollars while at the University of Miami.

Jurich sought to neutralize the scandals and shape the athletic department's image by controlling the local media,
according to interviews with more than half a dozen journalists and media executives -- many of whom requested anonymity out of fear of reprisals from Louisville, even with Jurich gone. They described consistent and aggressive efforts to influence coverage, including abusive calls to radio talk-show hosts and executives by Jurich and his surrogates; threats to get advertising pulled from stations; and attempts to influence hiring and firing. Jurich denies he sought to influence advertisers or pressure the media. Nearly all of the media members identified Bob Gunnell, a public relations specialist, as Jurich's main surrogate and attack dog. The Louisville athletic department has a sports information group that employs 11 people, but contracts obtained by Outside the Lines show Jurich paid Gunnell's outside PR firm, Boxcar, up to $130,000 per year dating to 2014. Shortly after Jurich was fired, Gunnell cut ties with the university. He now represents Jurich personally.

The Adidas deal quadrupled the company's commitment to Louisville in cash and gear and was a huge bet on Jurich's vision. The average annual compensation of the 10-year contract was exceeded only by Under Armour's deal with UCLA ($18.7 million) and Nike's deals with Ohio State ($16.8 million) and Texas ($16.7 million) -- universities with at least twice Louisville's enrollment. Waldron says she was oblivious to the recruiting negotiations that allegedly were taking place simultaneously between representatives of Louisville and Adidas.

The next day, Jurich was summoned to the office of Postel, the interim president, who he says asked him to resign. Jurich refused.
Postel then handed him a letter informing him that he'd been placed on administrative leave, pending a decision by the board of trustees. The meeting lasted roughly 90 seconds, Jurich says.

On Oct. 18, Jurich was fired by a 10-3 vote of the trustees. His termination letter, delivered by Postel, was a two-page screed. Jurich had created "a culture of tolerance," Postel wrote, entered into secret transactions "for your own financial or other benefit" and engaged in "willful misconduct demonstrated through ineffective management, divisive leadership, unprofessional conduct, and a lack of collegiality best characterized as intimidation and bullying that extends from student government to the University's senior leadership. This has caused substantial damage to the University."



For the record, I am in favor of hiring Jurich. He won't be at UM for 20 years and he doesn't need to build us from ground zero. But THIS is what the old guard of the BOT fears, a guy who is powerful and will build his own power base, possibly raising more money than the University raises for academics.

You don't have to agree or like it, but if the BOT can find a four year old article that confirms their worst fears...you can at least understand why they are being so adamant in this BOT Civil War.
He has the best resume of an AD I've ever seen.
 
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No other program would touch Pitino and look what he’s doing at Iona. No other program would touch Freeze and look what he’s done at Liberty. When you are as far behind as Miami is, you have to take a chance on someone who gives you a competitive advantage.

The risk to reward here is heavily swayed in favor of the reward. Jurich was cleared in the investigation. Idk why Miami has to be like every other program in staying away from Jurich, when all everyone says is “Miami is different.” So be different and prosper.

There’s a difference between different and taking risks where they aren’t warranted.
 
He was cleared from the investigation. And after almost 2 decades of irrelevance, most people would say it’s warranted.
He is not part of the notice of allegations that is still pending for Louisville, but Pitino is. Yeah, I have no issue with Jurich but I do understand the concern.
 
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As "compromise names" with "qualified resumes" emerge (Nunez), we need to stop debating the "merits of this guy vs. the drawbacks of that guy".

From a pure resume standpoint, Jurich is the best candidate and has accomplished the most.

But to the old guard of the BOT, he represents an Alpha who will become the most powerful person on the campus, and someone who will build an independent power base. The only prior comparable that UM has is Sam Jankovich, and we have Emeriti Trustees who were around for the Jankovich years, so let's not act like this is ancient history.

I am going to post a link to an ESPN article FROM FOUR YEARS AGO. If any of us can Google it in 5 seconds, then it is just as easy for an old guard Trustee to read this and get scared about letting Jurich take UM into the future.

I'll also cut-paste some relevant lines, for the "Cliff's Notes" crowd.

Short summary, this is NOT the UM BOT saying "we want a puppet". This is the old guard saying "we don't want an Alpha Jankovich that will eclipse our power".

Enjoy (or not)...



The morning after the FBI's announcement, Dr. Gregory Postel, the interim president, removed not only Hall of Fame basketball coach Rick Pitino but also athletic director Tom Jurich, one of the state's most powerful people. Over the past 20 years, Jurich had built a sports empire on top of a midlevel commuter school near the Ohio River, transforming the campus and infusing a genteel Southern city that lacked a professional team with the excitement of big-time sports. Jurich was so successful generating money that "I wished I could turn them upside down and shake out their pocket change for the academic side," says Thomas B. Byers, a professor emeritus in the English department.

Jurich is a man of average height, but even at 61, he carries himself with a pugnacious, intimidating intensity. Charming and warm one minute, he is sometimes defensive and suspicious. As athletic director, Jurich rarely texted or used email, fearful it could be used against him. "Why have more fodder for people?" he says. "You know how I communicated with people? I picked up the phone, and I went to their face." Since the university began digging into his records, he says, "That's the question I get most: 'How do you conduct business?' Well, I think we conducted it pretty **** good."

Louisville's athletics budget then was $16.5 million. Jurich embarked on an ambitious growth strategy that would solve Louisville's Title IX problems and build up nonrevenue sports such as swimming and soccer while ensuring that the basketball and football teams were successful enough to support the enterprise.

The strategy required prodigious cash; by this year, Louisville's athletics budget was up to $104.5 million. "He treated his donors like investors," says Jurich's friend Larry Benz, a member of the Louisville Athletic Association, which oversees the department. Jurich built $280 million in arenas, playing fields and athletic offices by convincing rich people of the facilities' vital importance. "I can give $5 million to stem cell research and it's gonna help stem cell research," says Dr. Mark Lynn, an optometry-chain owner whose name adorns the soccer complex. "I give $5 million to a soccer stadium and it's gonna help everything." Lynn says sports bring the school visibility.

Waldron, the sports marketing director, calls Jurich "probably the finest leader I ever worked for," pointing out that he promoted women inside and outside the department. "He's a feminist, really," she says.

MUCH OF THE athletic department's finances was shrouded in secrecy, hidden from the Louisville Athletic Association and the board of trustees. Two former trustees told Outside the Lines that they were unaware of large real estate transactions involving the athletic department and the Louisville Foundation, the school's endowment, which raises money for education and research.

Dawn Heinecken, a professor who sits on the athletic association board, says the board learned about the Adidas deal "after it was announced publicly. That was the first I heard about it."

James Ramsey, who was president of both the university and the foundation, resigned last year amid allegations that he mismanaged endowment funds. Ramsey and Jurich had a close working relationship: Ramsey, in secret, approved additional compensation that earned Jurich an average of $2.77 million annually over the past seven years and approved several real estate transactions that benefited the athletic department. The Louisville Courier-Journal reported that Jurich's perks included tax "gross-ups" -- meaning the university paid some of his taxes -- membership in three country clubs and premium seats at the Kentucky Derby.

Jurich pulled in far more than the $1.4 million base salary that ranked him among the highest-paid ADs in the nation. Including other compensation, he earned $5.3 million in 2016, which, as The Courier-Journal points out, was more than the budgets of the biology, English, history and math departments. Jurich and his wife have vacation homes in Clearwater Beach and in Steamboat Springs, Colorado. Their son Mark, a former pro baseball player, was paid an average of $133,545 to work as senior associate athletic director for development. To circumvent Louisville's nepotism policy, most of that salary was paid by the Louisville Foundation. Earlier this year, before the Adidas deal was announced, Jurich's daughter Haley, who has experience in sports marketing, was hired by the company to serve as a liaison between Adidas and Louisville. (She was initially placed on administrative leave after the FBI scandal and is planning to move to company headquarters in Portland, Oregon.) Pitino was to make $7.7 million this season in total pay. He is suing the Louisville Athletic Association for more than $35 million, as well as Adidas, which terminated a personal services contract that was believed to pay him well over $1 million annually.

And let's not overlook THIS gem:

The athletic department's unfettered growth was undented by the scandals that occurred under Jurich's watch. Jurich refused to fire Pitino despite a string of public embarrassments, including Pitino's affair with a woman who was later sent to prison for trying to extort him, and "Strippergate," in which a Pitino assistant coach, over a period of four years, brought in dancers and prostitutes to entertain recruits at a university dorm. Louisville is appealing NCAA sanctions for Strippergate and if denied will be stripped of 123 wins, including its 2013 national title. In 2013, Jurich retained a former assistant football coach, even after the NCAA had sanctioned the coach for receiving and handing out thousands of dollars while at the University of Miami.

Jurich sought to neutralize the scandals and shape the athletic department's image by controlling the local media,
according to interviews with more than half a dozen journalists and media executives -- many of whom requested anonymity out of fear of reprisals from Louisville, even with Jurich gone. They described consistent and aggressive efforts to influence coverage, including abusive calls to radio talk-show hosts and executives by Jurich and his surrogates; threats to get advertising pulled from stations; and attempts to influence hiring and firing. Jurich denies he sought to influence advertisers or pressure the media. Nearly all of the media members identified Bob Gunnell, a public relations specialist, as Jurich's main surrogate and attack dog. The Louisville athletic department has a sports information group that employs 11 people, but contracts obtained by Outside the Lines show Jurich paid Gunnell's outside PR firm, Boxcar, up to $130,000 per year dating to 2014. Shortly after Jurich was fired, Gunnell cut ties with the university. He now represents Jurich personally.

The Adidas deal quadrupled the company's commitment to Louisville in cash and gear and was a huge bet on Jurich's vision. The average annual compensation of the 10-year contract was exceeded only by Under Armour's deal with UCLA ($18.7 million) and Nike's deals with Ohio State ($16.8 million) and Texas ($16.7 million) -- universities with at least twice Louisville's enrollment. Waldron says she was oblivious to the recruiting negotiations that allegedly were taking place simultaneously between representatives of Louisville and Adidas.

The next day, Jurich was summoned to the office of Postel, the interim president, who he says asked him to resign. Jurich refused.
Postel then handed him a letter informing him that he'd been placed on administrative leave, pending a decision by the board of trustees. The meeting lasted roughly 90 seconds, Jurich says.

On Oct. 18, Jurich was fired by a 10-3 vote of the trustees. His termination letter, delivered by Postel, was a two-page screed. Jurich had created "a culture of tolerance," Postel wrote, entered into secret transactions "for your own financial or other benefit" and engaged in "willful misconduct demonstrated through ineffective management, divisive leadership, unprofessional conduct, and a lack of collegiality best characterized as intimidation and bullying that extends from student government to the University's senior leadership. This has caused substantial damage to the University."



For the record, I am in favor of hiring Jurich. He won't be at UM for 20 years and he doesn't need to build us from ground zero. But THIS is what the old guard of the BOT fears, a guy who is powerful and will build his own power base, possibly raising more money than the University raises for academics.

You don't have to agree or like it, but if the BOT can find a four year old article that confirms their worst fears...you can at least understand why they are being so adamant in this BOT Civil War.
Clearly, you have never served on a BOT or board of directors. I wouldn't go anywhere near this guy. Like it or not, we are always on the NCAA radar. This hiring would increase their attention, not to mention possible FBI/DOJ eyes. Find the right coach, and as the winning increases, the opportunity for money increases for any other AD.
 
I wouldn't worry about Jen, she is well-liked, but she is not THE boss or A boss. She is not under consideration for a promotion. She probably has a great future working for the ACC, so let's not burn any bridges.

My comment was more of a direction focus of the AD and football programs. At a minimum, she should have nothing to do with football. Preferably, she gets canned from a job she should have never had (a la Blake and Manny).
 
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@TheOriginalCane - It's starting to take shape, isnt it?

The new guard will get "their guy" in place and the old guard will get their spies in place along side him to ensure he's sabotaged every step of the way.


If that's the takeaway...

Look, at some point in our lives, we've all probably had at least one bad boss. I'm no fan of Jen's. I'm fine with taking a firehose to the inside of Hecht and starting over. But I have no idea if Jen would be a "spy" to "sabotage" the new AD.

If Alonzo is the pick...and Alonzo assembles the team he wants...I will trust Alonzo until I am given a reason not to do so.

And, for the record, who needs spies when the BOT does its own dirty work of leaking to the press...
 
Miami needs to learn from the past and be the “Bad boy” of CFB again, but in an educated way. SEC schools do it, why not us?
 
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