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BostonCanes47 said:
@JayCane20 any concern about signals? Couple times Saturday I noticed Virginia DBs running the route for the Miami receivers.
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Not that I’m aware of. I think we’re making it harder on ourselves trying to throw into 6 or 7 guys in coverage vs 4 WRs. Also noticed a lot of our routes were 4 WRs running exclusively to the same depth. No layering or levels. Can’t beat zone like that.

Against UVA we’re constantly leaving RBs in to help pass pro against 4 defenders. They should be immediately running a route. They only release into the flats late. They need to be releasing between the tackles and sitting in the middle of the field, running wheels, angle routes, stabs, M routes, etc. They’re allowing defenders to hold current position and react and still have time instead of pulling them out of their zone. TE or H can be used the same way. Even both at the same time. That’s how you beat zone.

No controversy being created. Not running guys across multiple zones or quarters. Too many vertical routes and not enough crosses, slants, mesh, delayed or staggered releases, etc.
 
JayCane20 said:
Not that I’m aware of. I think we’re making it harder on ourselves trying to throw into 6 or 7 guys in coverage vs 4 WRs. Also noticed a lot of our routes were 4 WRs running exclusively to the same depth. No layering or levels. Can’t beat zone like that.

Against UVA we’re constantly leaving RBs in to help pass pro against 4 defenders. They should be immediately running a route. They only release into the flats late. They need to be releasing between the tackles and sitting in the middle of the field, running wheels, angle routes, stabs, M routes, etc. They’re allowing defenders to hold current position and react and still have time instead of pulling them out of their zone. TE or H can be used the same way. Even both at the same time. That’s how you beat zone.

No controversy being created. Not running guys across multiple zones or quarters. Too many vertical routes and not enough crosses, slants, mesh, delayed or staggered releases, etc.
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This. Even when Tyler would hit the check down, it was only for a minimal gain because the backs didn't threaten any area of the zone. They just leak out into the flat and sit there.
 
This is going totally off topic of the original thread but still about predictability..

I would use TVD and X’s chemistry to our advantage like Brady and Welker. Delayed release or slow release him almost all of the time after motioning him and then letting the other WRs set up the zone ahead of him and he follows and sits where he wants. It’s virtually unstoppable in zone coverage.

Force them to play man coverage or at least split coverage. Quarters really can’t cover that either and it seems to be TVDs weakness. TVD and Dawson are both better beating Man and they can find it if it’s there. Also, split coverage can really be exposed with crossers if you can catch them in it.
 
JayCane20 said:
Not necessarily. You align based on how quick you can get to the mesh point and how wide your steps are or what movements you make and how long it takes to get where you need to be when you need to be there. One RB can be different from the other. However, they should always align at that depth and not dependent on pass protect assignments or run play. Fletcher does align that way Parrish is or has been different based on playcall.
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makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing.
 
JayCane20 said:
This is going totally off topic of the original thread but still about predictability..

I would use TVD and X’s chemistry to our advantage like Brady and Welker. Delayed release or slow release him almost all of the time after motioning him and then letting the other WRs set up the zone ahead of him and he follows and sits where he wants. It’s virtually unstoppable in zone coverage.

Force them to play man coverage or at least split coverage. Quarters really can’t cover that either and it seems to be TVDs weakness. TVD and Dawson are both better beating Man and they can find it if it’s there. Also, split coverage can really be exposed with crossers if you can catch them in it.
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I love this.
 
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