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QBR this season

Arileus

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There are six steps to building QBR:
  • Each QB "action play" (passes, rushes, sacks, scrambles, or penalties attributable to the QB) is measured in terms of the expected points added (EPA)
  • Adjust for the difficulty of each play. EPA is adjusted based on the type and depth of a pass, and whether the QB was pressured.
  • If there is a completion, he only is credited for the typical number of yards after the catch (passer rating takes all yards into effect) based on the type and depth of the pass
  • There is a discount on trash time, or a time where the score is out of reach near the end of the game.
  • Opponent adjustment: More credit is given with tougher defenses and vice versa. (This takes strength of opponent into consideration)
  • QBR averages the adjusted EPA per play and transforms it to a 0 to 100 scale, with 50 being average

Its not perfect but it takes a lot more into consideration then just plain stats. The scale is 0-100 with 50 being average.

Jarrens QBR this season:
UF - 16.6
UNC - 49.6 (Appalachian State's QB vs NC - 87.8) This is primarily because it should of been a way harder game for App state then it was for us for obvious reasons)
Bethune - 85.6
Central Michigan - 57.8
 
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Qbr is the most useless statistic in football. It currently has Trevor Lawrence as the 14th best qb in college football based on play. That’s utterly ridiculous. Basically if you have sacks you won’t ever have a high qbr rating
 
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Im sorry, but Jarren has been mediocre at best this season. Hes actually gotten lucky stat wise as hes had at least 2 INTS he gifted to opposing Dbs dropped.

Not impressed.
 
You know I don’t see them in the mix for promotion. Leeds / Forrest / Swansea / West Brom seem much more likely to get promoted. Will always root for the lads from loftus road. Let’s go HOOPS!

Wait what the **** is QBR?
 
supersaiyanshel said:
Im sorry, but Jarren has been mediocre at best this season. Hes actually gotten lucky stat wise as hes had at least 2 INTS he gifted to opposing Dbs dropped.

Not impressed.
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Everyone gets lucky with dropped ints. Justin fields had some vs Indiana. Trevor Lawrence threw 2 ints and had 3dropped in the ga tech game alone. It happens more often than people think but a lot of fans seem like they just watch Miami apparently.
 
brock said:
Everyone gets lucky with dropped ints. Justin fields had some vs Indiana. Trevor Lawrence threw 2 ints and had 3dropped in the ga tech game alone. It happens more often than people think but a lot of fans seem like they just watch Miami apparently.
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Not arguing this at all. Matter of fact, CJ Hendersons entire career has been based on gifted interceptions.
 
brock said:
Qbr is the most useless statistic in football. It currently has Trevor Lawrence as the 14 best qb in college football based on play. That’s utterly ridiculous. Basically if you have sacks you won’t ever have a high qbr rating
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To be fair, Trevor hasnt been playing his best this year and that stat somewhat reflects that. While not perfect, i would say that 'rating wise', its one of the better ones to look at for overall performance.
 
I mean, just look at the NC game last year vs. Baga. You can't tell me there wasn't some luck, or hot streak, or whatever you want to call it in TL completing some of those longer passes into tight coverage. I don't care how accurate the throw is, when the window is that tight, the statistical chance of completing the pass is WAY lower than what TL achieved in that game.

He's got excellent WR's, and a solid sense for timing and accuracy for dropping the ball in there, he's an extremely excellent QB who I would love to have at Miami, but some regression to the mean was to be expected based on his late season performance in 2018.

Bottom line, complaining that QBR is not a useful metric purely for the reason that TL is rated #14 in the country out of 150+ QB's in the country is nonsensical. Top 15 in any one positional metric vs the field of every college football player in the country is still elite.

I agree with the premise of OP. We so want Jarren to be our saviour that we are lowering the bar and then elevating him unreasonably. In the end, crowning his *** too soon is only going to come back to bite him. Jarren has been fine for a RS Freshman, but he's still only been good enough for 0-2 vs P5 and 2-0 vs FCS and G5. He's got a LOT to work on. He's a nice young QB with some solid tools who needs to master his craft and get better every day. He's not Superman, and he's not Hot Garbage. And that's ok to acknowledge.
 
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