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Putting this season into perspective

hotshot said:
Question is will we still have Lucas in a couple years? We're not used to having a coach who will be in high demand.

The University of Houston scares me the most. They are a quality program, Lucas has very strong ties to that city, and Kelvin Sampson is 70. The good news is that they apparently struggle big time with the NIL side of things.

Whatever, our AD oughta be ready to address the demand for Lucas, which is undoubtedly coming.
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Even the NBA could be a problem if we have some years of sustained success like coach Ham. Especially considering that Lucas family ties with the NBA.
 
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AtlAtty said:
I’m not sure about the seed but last night the announcers said we clinched a double bye. I’m just not sure how many teams receive a double bye.
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Four teams get a double bye. As I see it, right now we could catch UVA record-wise for the #2 seed with a win in our last game and a UVA loss. But, UVA wins the tiebreaker with us.

UNC is at #4. They could catch us by beating Duke again and us losing to the Ville. We'd still, I think, hold the tie-braker over them for the #3 seed.
 
hotshot said:
Four teams get a double bye. As I see it, right now we could catch UVA record-wise for the #2 seed with a win in our last game and a UVA loss. But, UVA wins the tiebreaker with us.

UNC is at #4. They could catch us by beating Duke again and us losing to the Ville. We'd still, I think, hold the tie-braker over them for the #3 seed.
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Yeah with tie breakers I think the seeding is locked Duke, UVA, us, and UNC.

Finishing third in conference this year is just so astronomically and outrageously good…
 
AmherstCane said:
Yeah with tie breakers I think the seeding is locked Duke, UVA, us, and UNC.

Finishing third in conference this year is just so astronomically and outrageously good…
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It is. 1 through 4 are locked. We are the 3 seed next week no matter what happens this weekend. First game should be Thursday against the winner of the 6 vs 15 game that’s the day before.
 
aelmiami said:
Problem is the gap between 6 to 7,8,9 seeds this year seems to be pretty big. Short of us making the ACC Final I think. 7 is our ceiling. I think we could’ve snuck up to a 6 if we had beaten UVA.
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Win our last game and then another or two in the ACC tourney then we're legit in the hunt for a 6 seed. Here's the link to the Bracket Matrix, it shows we're a solid 7 right now.

 
strauzer said:
Win our last game and then another or two in the ACC tourney then we're legit in the hunt for a 6 seed. Here's the link to the Bracket Matrix, it shows we're a solid 7 right now.

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I guess the caveat is the teams above us in their model would have to not improve at all in the bare minimum. I just want to avoid the 8 line. We could be a sneaky Sweet 16 pick, if we get a Michigan State, Houston 2 seed. Or really any of the three seeds. Going against a one in the Round of 32 is going to be a tall mountain to climb.
 
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casualcane said:
Jai is a quality coach. And a coach for the new generation of the game.

He’s also brought in some high talent assistants. No disrespect to L, but his assistants and support staff were nowhere close to this group.

Let’s not forget this roster is far from complete. Imagine this team in a couple of years
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It's amazing what a coach can do with a legit budget. L was the victim of his own success(He never got the budget he needed, and we saw program erosion late once he was unable to carry as much as he once did) and once the brain drain happened, it was tough to rebuild. People forget that L's best staffs were early on, when he had guys like Konkol and Huger. Then he had to rebuild and honestly, it was tough.

I'm happy that the school gave Coach Lucas the funding needed for him to build a legit program and I hope he realizes that he can be something special here. Maybe he's a long term solution, maybe not, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
 
I'd be shocked if Lucas would even consider the NBA in the next 5 or 6 years and even more surprised if an NBA team came calling within span.

For all that Lucas has done he is still somewhat unproven. No tournament wins or even an ACC championship. But this year's regular season results and his pedigree show that his ceiling is crazy high.

I think other colleges will be our biggest competitors. But maybe not. Lucas keeps winnin, Miami will make sure that money isn't the problem.

Hopefully he'll want to build his own legacy here.
 
HurikaneMarc said:
I'd be shocked if Lucas would even consider the NBA in the next 5 or 6 years and even more surprised if an NBA team came calling within span.

For all that Lucas has done he is still somewhat unproven. No tournament wins or even an ACC championship. But this year's regular season results and his pedigree show that his ceiling is crazy high.

I think other colleges will be our biggest competitors. But maybe not. Lucas keeps winnin, Miami will make sure that money isn't the problem.

Hopefully he'll want to build his own legacy here.
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If Jai believes his own hype about Miami having the potential to become/remain a consistently top program (dare I say Blue Blood?), he def could choose to stay. The recruiting area is strong, the weather and city are great, hopefully the $$ are there, all big plusses.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
I have to be honest, I’m somewhat in shock that if we close out on Saturday with a win, it would be the most wins ever for the regular season.

I didn’t have high expectations this year, just wanted to be respectable after last year, maybe sneak into the NCAA tourney with basement seeding if I let myself get crazy carried away.

Now we have a double-bye for the ACC games, and maybe go to the dance as a what? An 8-seed depending on how we do in the ACC tourney? Could it even be higher?
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I thought .500 in conference and an NIT birth would be respectable.
 
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strauzer said:
Win our last game and then another or two in the ACC tourney then we're legit in the hunt for a 6 seed. Here's the link to the Bracket Matrix, it shows we're a solid 7 right now.

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Not sure why we are not a 6-seed NOW. We are #22 in the country in AP.

Yes, I want to lock it down. If we win 1 ACC tournament game, we should be a 6-seed. If we win 2 and are in the ACC Finals, I'm not sure why we can't get to a 4-seed. 5-seed AT LEAST.
 
If anyone is interested in seeing where our resume stacks up with the teams around us, I compiled these ten resumes, representing the teams on Bracket Matrix that constitute the final 5 seed, the 6 seeds, the 7 seeds, and the top 8 seed. The data is what largely shows up on the team sheets that the committee would use.

In the data below, RES is an average of the three resume-based analytics that the committee uses (KPI, SOR, and WAB). QUA is an average of the three quality-based analytics that the committee uses (BPI, Kenpom, and Torvik). Q1A are the higher quality Q1 games (home vs. top 15; road vs. top 40; neutral vs. top 25)

Team A: NET: 25; RES: 27; QUA: 28.67; Q1A: 1-6; Q1: 6-8; Q2: 6-2; Q1+Q2: 12-10; Q3+Q4: 8-0
Team B: NET: 30; RES: 30.33; QUA: 33.33; Q1A: 1-4; Q1: 7-7; Q2: 4-1; Q1+Q2: 11-8; Q3+Q4: 10-1
Team C: NET: 27; RES: 29.33; QUA: 26.67; Q1A: 3-7; Q1: 6-10; Q2: 4-1; Q1+Q2: 10-11; Q3+Q4: 9-0
Team D: NET: 15: RES: 28.33; QUA: 13.67; Q1A: 0-8; Q1: 5-9; Q2: 5-0; Q1+Q2: 10-9; Q3+Q4: 11-0
Team E: NET: 29; RES: 27.33; QUA: 34.67; Q1A: 2-4; Q1: 5-4; Q2: 6-2: Q1+Q2: 11-6; Q3+Q4: 13-0
Team F: NET: 22; RES: 19.33; QUA: 19.67; Q1A: 2-2; Q1: 2-5; Q2: 10-0; Q1+Q2: 12-5; Q3+Q4: 12-1
Team G: NET: 21; RES: 23; QUA: 23.67; Q1A: 1-2; Q1: 1-3; Q2: 8-1; Q1+Q2: 9-4; Q3+Q4: 17-0
Team H: NET: 20; RES: 22; QUA: 12; Q1A: 5-5; Q1: 5-8; Q2: 7-1; Q1+Q2: 12-9; Q3+Q4: 9-0
Team I: NET: 33; RES: 24; QUA: 35; Q1A: 0-5; Q1: 2-6; Q2: 8-0; Q1+Q2: 10-6; Q3+Q4: 13-1
Team J: NET: 31; RES: 27; QUA: 23.67; Q1A: 3-5; Q1: 5-7; Q2: 6-2; Q1+Q2: 11-9; Q3+Q4: 10-0

FWIW, this is how I would rank them. I think the best two and the worst two are pretty clear, but you can make arguments to put the other 6 in basically any order.
-5 seed: H
-6 seed: F, J, E, G
-7 seed: C, A, D, I
-8 seed: B

Team A: BYU
Team B: Georgia
Team C: Kentucky
Team D: Louisville
Team E: Miami
Team F: St. John's
Team G: Saint Mary's
Team H: Tennessee
Team I: Villanova
Team J: Wisconsin
 
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