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ZuCrew said:
...You DO realize with the embargo Americans were....forget it. And trust me non-Americans have been going to Cuban for treatment for a long time now...
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I am sure non americans do go to Cuba for treatment. My point is not the RICHEST ONES choose America. There is a reason for that. Good for you for being in healthcare adminstration. However, I know multiple doctors. One is a surgeon at Columbia and he has told me MANY times that the USA has by far the most elite doctors. I will give him a call tomorrow and ask where he thinks Cuba stacks up. SO since you want to play the experience card I am sure my friend has a lot more knowledge in this than you in healthcare adminstration.
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
I am sure non americans do go to Cuba for treatment. My point is not the RICHEST ONES choose America. There is a reason for that. Good for you for being in healthcare adminstration. However, I know multiple doctors. One is a surgeon at Columbia and he has told me MANY times that the USA has by far the most elite doctors. I will give him a call tomorrow and ask where he thinks Cuba stacks up. SO since you want to play the experience card I am sure my friend has a lot more knowledge in this than you in healthcare adminstration.
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Son, my references include doctors forms Vanderbilt, IU, FAMU, And UK. Go ahead and do that. Whatever your friend says doesn’t make me or won’t break me. While your playing ****ing contest on a blog site, I’ve actually been on the front lines of American healthcare research trying to find ways to make it more fesible for the average American. Which is why I’ve looked at other healthcare models so unless you’re going to comeback with actually real world, hands on experience, anything you say will be hearsay because all you’re going to do is regurgitate what some other professional told you.
 
ZuCrew said:
You’re being snide because you think you know better but you don’t. I’ll answer your question. Did you know Cuba’s healthcare a system is one of the most efficiently and effectively ran? Did you know other developed nations actually go TO Cuba in order to study how their healthcare system is ran because it works so well? Of course you don’t. Why? Because you don’t work in healthcare administration. I work in healthcare administration. Its my area of expertise actually. IN answering your question if I was of equal distance and had a choice? You **** right, I’d go to Cuba. Other than the fact they have top notch healthcare, it would be F-R-E-E. Completely and totally. Do you know the average cost to the ER in the US for for non-emergency maintenance such as stuffy noise or stomach virus? 2 grand. Easily. This is why ER’s now charge an ER fee if your not admitted into the ER and why people should use urgent care more often. Any more questions?
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This is exactly what the problem is. A lot of people are confusing cost and red tape as wore medicine or worse doctors.
They are confusing medical screening and basic care as better doctors.
You can go to almost any Latin American country and in one day get Full set of labs screening and be seen like by 3 specialist in one building for like 100 bucks. But it doesn’t means you were seen by the best doctors.
I’m Colombian and the ammount of times I have to hear from my family how awesome the doctors are in Colombia is amazing. Butt hey are confusing the pleasant experience as better doctors.
If a woman in the US goes for her annual exam she has at least 4 appointments for that.
1. The first cosit
2. The lab visit
3 the mammogram visit
4. Her gynecologist appointment
5 follow up for lab results
That s time consuming and frustrating.
In Colombia that would all take a few hrs.
And if any abnormally came in you would see a specialist maybe the same day.
So of course people say omg the doctors there are awesome.
But to say that the individual doctor is better when all the training for basic services is pretty much universal and guideline based is nonsensical.
A lot of this awesome doctor talk also comes down to nationalistic pride. Medicine has always given a country a sense of pride. Ask any Latin person and they’ll say that their country has the best doctors.
I’ve heard them all say it. From Patagonia to Tijuana. But the fact is they’re not. I don’t see anyone flocking to Quito Ecuador for the latest advancements minimally invasive surgeries. Or the revolution on treatments for any condition.
If your a healthcare administrator and say you would rather go to Cuba instead of here for a procedure than here in the US please tell me the name of you hospital so I can stay TF away from that place.
 
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ZuCrew said:
Son, my references include doctors forms Vanderbilt, IU, FAMU, And UK. Go ahead and do that. Whatever your friend says doesn’t make me or won’t break me. While your playing ****ing contest on a blog site, I’ve actually been on the far front lines of American healthcare research trying to find ways to make it more fesible for the average American. Which is why I’ve looked at other healthcare models so unless you’re going to comeback with actually real world, hands on experience, anything you say will be hearsay because all you’re going to do is regurgitate what some other professional told you.
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So you have references from four schitty schools. Nice. No wonder they tell you the doctors from Cuba are better. I don't care about which country has cheaper healthcare. That is not the discussion. The point is the wealthiest people get treatment in America because when money isn't an issue they go to America.

Here is my question for you. You have a life threatening illness and need surgery. This is a hyphotethical so both doctors are willing to operate for free and you will be teleported to the hospital so time to get there wont be a concern.

You have the best USA specialist pertaining to the illness and the best team of Americans he can assemble in the best american hospital. OR you can go to the best specialist in Cuba with his best Cuban team in the best Cuban hospital. Which one are you choosing?
 
pacusmc said:
This is exactly what the problem is. A lot of people are confusing cost and red tape as wore medicine or worse doctors.
They are confusing medical screening and basic care as better doctors.
You can go to almost any Latin American country and in one day get Full set of labs screening and be seen like by 3 specialist in one building for like 100 bucks. But it doesn’t means you were seen by the best doctors.
I’m Colombian and the ammount of times I have to hear from my family how awesome the doctors are in Colombia is amazing. Butt hey are confusing the pleasant experience as better doctors.
If a woman in the US goes for her annual exam she has at least 4 appointments for that.
1. The first cosit
2. The lab visit
3 the mammogram visit
4. Her gynecologist appointment
5 follow up for lab results
That s time consuming and frustrating.
In Colombia that would all take a few hrs.
And if any abnormally came in you would see a specialist maybe the same day.
So of course people say omg the doctors there are awesome.
But to say that the individual doctor is better when all the training for basic services is pretty much universal and guideline based is nonsensical.
A lot of this awesome doctor talk also comes down to nationalistic pride. Medicine has always given a country a sense of pride. Ask any Latin person and they’ll say that their country has the best doctors.
I’ve heard them all say it. From Patagonia to Tijuana. But the fact is they’re not. I don’t see anyone flicking to Quito Ecuador for the latest advancements minimally invasive surgeries. Or the revolution on treatments for any co diction.
If your a healthcare administrator and say you would rather go to Cuba instead of here for a procedure than here in the US please tell me the name of you hospital so I can stay TF away from that place.
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Son, Colombia will never be confused with a country that has world renown healthcare. You’re good.
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
So you have references from four schitty schools. Nice. No wonder they tell you the doctors from Cuba are better. I don't care about which country has cheaper healthcare. That is not the discussion. The point is the wealthiest people get treatment in America because when money isn't an issue they go to America.

Here is my question for you. You have a life threatening illness and need surgery. This is a hyphotethical so both doctors are willing to operate for free and you will be teleported to the hospital so time to get there wont be a concern.

You have the best USA specialist pertaining to the illness and the best team of Americans he can assemble in the best american hospital. OR you can go to the best specialist in Cuba with his best Cuban team in the best Cuban hospital. Which one are you choosing?
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****** school? Lmao... this conversation is over because clearly you have no idea what you’re talking about.
 
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pacusmc said:
This is exactly what the problem is. A lot of people are confusing cost and red tape as wore medicine or worse doctors.
They are confusing medical screening and basic care as better doctors.
You can go to almost any Latin American country and in one day get Full set of labs screening and be seen like by 3 specialist in one building for like 100 bucks. But it doesn’t means you were seen by the best doctors.
I’m Colombian and the ammount of times I have to hear from my family how awesome the doctors are in Colombia is amazing. Butt hey are confusing the pleasant experience as better doctors.
If a woman in the US goes for her annual exam she has at least 4 appointments for that.
1. The first cosit
2. The lab visit
3 the mammogram visit
4. Her gynecologist appointment
5 follow up for lab results
That s time consuming and frustrating.
In Colombia that would all take a few hrs.
And if any abnormally came in you would see a specialist maybe the same day.
So of course people say omg the doctors there are awesome.
But to say that the individual doctor is better when all the training for basic services is pretty much universal and guideline based is nonsensical.
A lot of this awesome doctor talk also comes down to nationalistic pride. Medicine has always given a country a sense of pride. Ask any Latin person and they’ll say that their country has the best doctors.
I’ve heard them all say it. From Patagonia to Tijuana. But the fact is they’re not. I don’t see anyone flocking to Quito Ecuador for the latest advancements minimally invasive surgeries. Or the revolution on treatments for any condition.
If your a healthcare administrator and say you would rather go to Cuba instead of here for a procedure than here in the US please tell me the name of you hospital so I can stay TF away from that place.
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I doubt he even works at a hospital probably a SNF or something like that.
 
ZuCrew said:
Son, Colombia will never be confused with a country that has world renown healthcare. You’re good.
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Colombia revolutionized eye surgery FYI.
Everyone can claim a little something.
And it also had one heck of a trauma surgery training by default of all the violence. I worked in trauma here in the us and found out they invented something called the bogota bag for sever abdominal trauma. Look it up. But ask a Colombian or any Latin American and they’ll say theire doctors are the sht.
 
Ajcane8 said:
I did not say my people are descendants of Judah. In fact, I clearly stated that I couldn’t care less. What I said was my people - who look different, speak different languages and have lived in different and distinct areas, for millennia, all somehow have undeniable common and unique ancestry. Most people on earth believe that common ancestry to be that of the ancient Israelites - you think otherwise. Me? Perhaps, perhaps not.

And no, the Bible (I’m assuming you mean the KJV) is not history. It’s a rough transliteration, itself made hundreds of years after, of a collection of books written by multiple authors, over hundreds of years, wherein people are swallowed whole by whales, the entire earth floods, a kid is conceived absent ***... the list goes on. So, in a word, no. Not what most would term history. There are better sources if you want to look up the history of a small group of Bronze Age nomads that settled Canaan after leaving Egypt. I’d recommend Greco-Roman, even Egyptian, writings if you want an “historical” perspective of the ancient Israelites.
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Blah blah blah bah bah

U Ashkenazi or Khazarian 😂🤣😂🤣
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
FAMU is basically a community college. IU and UK are pretty bad and Vandy is the only decent school on the list. Answer my question buddy.
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You see Moron, it’s for that specific reason as to WHY I baited you when I put FAMU on there. FAMU is one of the TOP pharmaceutical colleges in the United States. It’s what their known for. Pharmacist are doctors too, if you didn’t know. UK and Vanderbilt have always been TOP medical schools. IU healthcare systems are one of the best in the nation. You don’t know what your talking about. Since you don’t kiddo, adieu.
 
ZuCrew said:
You see Moron, it’s for that specific reason as to WHY I baited you when I put FAMU on there. FAMU is one of the TOP pharmaceutical colleges in the United States. It’s what their known for. Pharmacist are doctors too, if you didn’t know. UK and Vanderbilt have always been TOP medical schools. IU healthcare systems are one of the best in the nation. You don’t know what your talking about. Since you don’t kiddo, adieu.
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I didn't know pharamacists performed surgery. Thanks for letting me know. None of them are comparable to Columbia kiddo. Now answer my question. I already know your answer which is why you are avoiding the question.
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
FAMU is basically a community college. IU and UK are pretty bad and Vandy is the only decent school on the list. Answer my question buddy.
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By your own words, our beloved U is "pretty bad" as well since IU ranks slightly ahead of us. Vandy is far better than decent. The other two I don't know much about. Feel free to carry on, the two or four of you.
 
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