Protect College Sports Act [formerly “SCORE Act” thread]

Agreed on the latter; but if the former is about to happen, and Clemson + ND already have a ten year contract until 2037 to play each other every year, why would ND stay in the ACC for all sports except football; and why would ND continue their 5 ACC opponents annually? I think ND would almost be forced to join and i feel like the B1G would boxout FSU for ND or UNC.

All Rhetorical questions because realignment causes domino effects. We also hear the often repeated line about needing to be an AAU school (exception made for Nebraska) to join the B1G; and FSU isn’t one. Don’t believe it’ll come to this but we’ll see

(Referring to B1G / SEC only; I’m sure the XII + others would be happy to have a lot of schools below)

Cal / Stanford: would only appeal to the B1G, back burner priority. Cap at 20 makes em locked in; 2 super-league would open up the possibility of a west coast B1G. Divisions return. We know from Ross’ most recent reporting that Stanford wanted the conference expansion cap nixed as well, along with other 4 acc schools I’ll address. Cal is a package deal at this point. Stanford recently hired one of the top Nike executives to run their athletic department.

UNC, UVA, GT: would fit in/heavily appeal to/be pursued by either conference; once again, i loathe UNC’s lack of shame considering their alumnus (ACC commish John Swofford) and his son are the ones that put together a 20 year contract with ESPN in 2016, 7 years after corruptly declining ESPN’s offer to create the ACC Network before the SEC Network, before SEC left CBS, and at the same time the B1G network was getting started. What UVA and GT would do once the musical chairs starts is unknown. UVA obviously has their own rival in conference already w/ VT, and GT’s main rival is in the SEC. Very important to remember that GT was formerly apart of the SEC.

Miami/FSU: two marquee brands that each lean towards a separate conference identity wise; B1G for Miami and SEC for FSU. They could fit in both of them, ofc. And be pursued by both. How this goes down isn’t predictable until we get closer to the end of decade.

Clemson: clean fit and would be wanted by the SEC. That seems to be their destiny if they leave.

Duke: would be loved in the B1G; however, no indications or reporting I have seen show any signs of dissatisfaction where they are. There’s also this whole private (WF/DUKE) vs public (NC State/UNC) thing that goes on with the founders of the conference. I hesitate to see them leaving. What would happen to the UNC-DUKE rivalry would be fascinating.

Louisville/SMU: SMU has more money, and Louisville has more athletic recognition. Could fit in either conference however much like cal / Stanford, would be a back burner priority. Don’t have the geographical proximity to the B1G, they have it w/ the SEC. Both seem happy to be in the ACC w/ no reports of them trying to setup another play. Louisville plays UK every year in football and basketball; one of the best rivalries in college athletics already in separate conferences. SMU has beef with the XII. Both are serious about athletics in ways unlike the schools i leave out here (VT is getting serious rn in football, basketball not so much)

Which conference UNC chooses, and what Louisville/SMU/UVA/GT does in response to that decision will shape whether or not the ACC stands or falls. And whether or not the ACC stands or falls goes into whether ND is forced to give up their independence, which they very much do not want to do.

Boston College, Syracuse, Wake Forest, NC State, Pittsburgh, VT:
Rejected Will Smith GIF


ACC will backfill the exits of Miami/FSU w/ USF and UConn; Tulane/Miami (OH)/JMU/Memphis are all on deck for promotion if more bounce and the XII stays stagnant.

Ultimately don’t believe a cap (or this bill) will get passed and the B1G TV deal ends before the SEC one; so the B1G will make a move or choose to remain at 18 before the SEC does anything in response. So many mf moving parts

ND tried the non-football thing with the B1G and it was always a nonstarter which is why they did it with the ACC. The previous two B1G commissioners said ND will always be wanted and there were talks etc but they never went far & both believe ND will never join because of the NBC relationship. Alumni/donors love the independence etc; it’s part of their lore now.
ND would continue their 5 ACC opponents for the same reason they would continue to play Clemson for 10 years.....they are contracted to.

The truth is both contracts would be negotiated to end if all these predicted moves are made.
 
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but tonight’s developments are massively huge for Miami, no?

I still don’t think this thing ever passes but Moody’s amendment is gigantic for Miami. We need more spots in the P2 for us. This gives us that.

What about Independent period? Was that addressed in the amendment?
 
Time for the entire Florida delegation to walk out. I mean this bill doesn’t just ***** us but, FSU to Big 2 and USF to ACC/ Big XII. The dean of the state delegation is Diaz-Balart, from our own backyard. Rev up the engine boys, it’s protest time.
 
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but tonight’s developments are massively huge for Miami, no?

I still don’t think this thing ever passes but Moody’s amendment is gigantic for Miami. We need more spots in the P2 for us. This gives us that.
She did that for FSU, primarily. Her best buddy is Peter Collins.
 
Miami and FSU could be 19 and 20 for the Big Ten. I don’t see Notre Dame ever joining a conference.
Agreed on the latter; but if the former is about to happen, and Clemson + ND already have a ten year contract until 2037 to play each other every year, why would ND stay in the ACC for all sports except football; and why would ND continue their 5 ACC opponents annually? I think ND would almost be forced to join and i feel like the B1G would boxout FSU for ND or UNC.

All Rhetorical questions because realignment causes domino effects. We also hear the often repeated line about needing to be an AAU school (exception made for Nebraska) to join the B1G; and FSU isn’t one. Don’t believe it’ll come to this but we’ll see

(Referring to B1G / SEC only; I’m sure the XII + others would be happy to have a lot of schools below)

Cal / Stanford: would only appeal to the B1G, back burner priority. Cap at 20 makes em locked in; 2 super-league would open up the possibility of a west coast B1G. Divisions return. We know from Ross’ most recent reporting that Stanford wanted the conference expansion cap nixed as well, along with other 4 acc schools I’ll address. Cal is a package deal at this point. Stanford recently hired one of the top Nike executives to run their athletic department.

UNC, UVA, GT: would fit in/heavily appeal to/be pursued by either conference; once again, i loathe UNC’s lack of shame considering their alumnus (ACC commish John Swofford) and his son are the ones that put together a 20 year contract with ESPN in 2016, 7 years after corruptly declining ESPN’s offer to create the ACC Network before the SEC Network, before SEC left CBS, and at the same time the B1G network was getting started. What UVA and GT would do once the musical chairs starts is unknown. UVA obviously has their own rival in conference already w/ VT, and GT’s main rival is in the SEC. Very important to remember that GT was formerly apart of the SEC.

Miami/FSU: two marquee brands that each lean towards a separate conference identity wise; B1G for Miami and SEC for FSU. They could fit in both of them, ofc. And be pursued by both. How this goes down isn’t predictable until we get closer to the end of decade.

Clemson: clean fit and would be wanted by the SEC. That seems to be their destiny if they leave.

Duke: would be loved in the B1G; however, no indications or reporting I have seen show any signs of dissatisfaction where they are. There’s also this whole private (WF/DUKE) vs public (NC State/UNC) thing that goes on with the founders of the conference. I hesitate to see them leaving. What would happen to the UNC-DUKE rivalry would be fascinating.

Louisville/SMU: SMU has more money, and Louisville has more athletic recognition. Could fit in either conference however much like cal / Stanford, would be a back burner priority. Don’t have the geographical proximity to the B1G, they have it w/ the SEC. Both seem happy to be in the ACC w/ no reports of them trying to setup another play. Louisville plays UK every year in football and basketball; one of the best rivalries in college athletics already in separate conferences. SMU has beef with the XII. Both are serious about athletics in ways unlike the schools i leave out here (VT is getting serious rn in football, basketball not so much)

Which conference UNC chooses, and what Louisville/SMU/UVA/GT does in response to that decision will shape whether or not the ACC stands or falls. And whether or not the ACC stands or falls goes into whether ND is forced to give up their independence, which they very much do not want to do.

Boston College, Syracuse, Wake Forest, NC State, Pittsburgh, VT:
Rejected Will Smith GIF


ACC will backfill the exits of Miami/FSU w/ USF and UConn; Tulane/Miami (OH)/JMU/Memphis are all on deck for promotion if more bounce and the XII stays stagnant.

Ultimately don’t believe a cap (or this bill) will get passed and the B1G TV deal ends before the SEC one; so the B1G will make a move or choose to remain at 18 before the SEC does anything in response. So many mf moving parts
I mean, I wouldn’t. They have a sweetheart CFP deal. They’ll probably join the Big Ten or Big East for non football. And unfortunately, they make enough money from NBC to facilitate staying independent.
ND tried the non-football thing with the B1G and it was always a nonstarter which is why they did it with the ACC. The previous two B1G commissioners said ND will always be wanted and there were talks etc but they never went far & both believe ND will never join because of the NBC relationship. Alumni/donors love the independence etc; it’s part of their lore now.
If the ACC dissolves the natural move is to pair with the Big East, aka Catholic school league, minus football. They are in the big ten for hockey already. So maybe the Big Ten makes some concessions but I doubt it. I can hate on ND all I want. But if I was them, why would you join a power conference? They can schedule a bunch of no bodies, go 11-1 or 12-0 and make the CFP. Especially once it inevitably expands again. Wouldn’t shock me if they bent the Big 12 over and did scheduling with them. Because they’ll need a partner that isn’t currently G5 to fill OOC games.
 


So whether this whole exercise was completely pointless or nah rests on whether House can get a majority in the lame duck session? So much democracy.
 
I have a very hard time believing this is going to be passed in a lame duck session after a very likely landslide election in the favor of Democrats. The House has a 95% chance of flipping to the Democrats (expected margin of Democrat victory is by 40 seats), and the Senate has a 60% chance of flipping to the Democrats (expected margin of Democrat victory is by 4 seats).

If that scenario ends up playing out, then a lot of Republicans are going to be out of jobs, and Trump is going to be radioactive. I can’t imagine any Republican taking Trump’s priorities seriously when he single handedly tanked their electoral prospects. In this case, I wouldn’t expect the House to do anything associated with Trump, including taking up this bill in the very short amount of time before their terms expire.
 
I have a very hard time believing this is going to be passed in a lame duck session after a very likely landslide election in the favor of Democrats. The House has a 95% chance of flipping to the Democrats (expected margin of Democrat victory is by 40 seats), and the Senate has a 60% chance of flipping to the Democrats (expected margin of Democrat victory is by 4 seats).

If that scenario ends up playing out, then a lot of Republicans are going to be out of jobs, and Trump is going to be radioactive. I can’t imagine any Republican taking Trump’s priorities seriously when he single handedly tanked their electoral prospects. In this case, I wouldn’t expect the House to do anything associated with Trump, including taking up this bill in the very short amount of time before their terms expire.
Sadly I think the prospect that a bunch of politicians will be unemployed makes it more likely that they vote to pass a bill that limits college player's ability to earn money.
 
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