Protect College Sports Act [formerly “SCORE Act” thread]

[Empirical Cane]

"...And suddenly we're seeing a different college football landscape, and these programs are having a hard time competing, and they have to stop it, or it's curtains."

 

[pyhooya]

 

[01Falsetto]

The best solution to college football is to use the club soccer relegation system. I would have a SEC conference with div 2 being Big 12 and have big 10 conference with div 2 being the ACC. Can even have a tier 3 for g6.

 

[cookies]

Alabama’s AD would like me to believe that men’s basketball doesn’t make a profit despite this nakedly public information at hand:



Only way his comment about basketball not making a profit makes any sense is if he is lumping men’s and women’s basketball together; in that case, their women’s team doesn’t make a profit.….still, the math ain’t mathing even by that calculus. Also gotta love whatever tf non—program specific entails

Alabama AD Greg Byrne Talks CFP Expansion, Life After Saban

In a wide-ranging interview with FOS, Byrne addressed several topics affecting both Alabama and college athletics more broadly.

frontofficesports.com

Spoiler: The only reason why

Regardless, many conferences (see ACC, XII — the two best basketball conferences) undervalued their men’s basketball inventory by agreeing to package it together with college football. I don’t expect that to remain the case moving forward; but these next deals are absurdly faraway. Another thing that doesn’t get talked about when it comes to March Madness is that it’s an NCAA sponsored event. Meaning, men’s basketball (and to a much lower level, women’s basketball) are literally subsidizing the whole NCAA because the NCAA puts on the event and sells the event’s inventory as a singular units to various networks. This is NOT the case with the college football playoff.


That’s how absurdly ****ed up this structure is/was. Men’s basketball are/have been funding the lawyers fighting em for the past decade lmao. So surreal i gotta laugh. On top of that, march madness also funds d2, d3, etc. So i think basketball’s profitability would be even higher if wasn’t setup to fund a gazillion other different things.

Like, for example, a 303 million dollar settlement to unpaid volunteer coaches of softball teams or whatever other sport, likely one that didn’t generate revenue at all. But this is why the cap on paid coaches was uplifted. And this would be one of the things that the NCAA could rein in (they wouldn’t) if they had an antitrust exemption.

NCAA agrees to $303 million settlement with volunteer coaches

The NCAA has agreed to pay $303 million to settle a class action antitrust lawsuit representing about 7,700 volunteer college coaches who alleged the organization engaged in illegal wage fixing under a rule that prohibited schools from paying them.

www.espn.com

Then they have a separate 50 million that they paid out to volunteer baseball coaches as a result of a lawsuit on volunteer coaches; which of course came from march madness-media-money basketball teams earned for them. That’s why this org is so goddam evil. This is just the first half of note 8 btw lmfao

But anyways, a lot more company men from universities and the NCAA are often repeating these lies about basketball not being profitable, and just wanted to type out how nonsensical it is. . . . Used to try to make their claims more sympathetic in the public’s eyes.

“Basketball isn’t profitable…….because we’ve used the billions in revenue to payback the billions of dollars we suppressed over the past decades.” Or something.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Alabama’s AD would like me to believe that men’s basketball doesn’t make a profit despite this nakedly public information at hand:



Only way his comment about basketball not making a profit makes any sense is if he is lumping men’s and women’s basketball together; in that case, their women’s team doesn’t make a profit.….still, the math ain’t mathing even by that calculus. Also gotta love whatever tf non—program specific entails

Alabama AD Greg Byrne Talks CFP Expansion, Life After Saban

In a wide-ranging interview with FOS, Byrne addressed several topics affecting both Alabama and college athletics more broadly.

frontofficesports.com

Spoiler: The only reason why

Regardless, many conferences (see ACC, XII — the two best basketball conferences) undervalued their men’s basketball inventory by agreeing to package it together with college football. I don’t expect that to remain the case moving forward; but these next deals are absurdly faraway. Another thing that doesn’t get talked about when it comes to March Madness is that it’s an NCAA sponsored event. Meaning, men’s basketball (and to a much lower level, women’s basketball) are literally subsidizing the whole NCAA because the NCAA puts on the event and sells the event’s inventory as a singular units to various networks. This is NOT the case with the college football playoff.


That’s how absurdly ****ed up this structure is/was. Men’s basketball are/have been funding the lawyers fighting em for the past decade lmao. So surreal i gotta laugh. On top of that, march madness also funds d2, d3, etc. So i think basketball’s profitability would be even higher if wasn’t setup to fund a gazillion other different things.


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Like, for example, a 303 million dollar settlement to unpaid volunteer coaches of softball teams or whatever other sport, likely one that didn’t generate revenue at all. But this is why the cap on paid coaches was uplifted. And this would be one of the things that the NCAA could rein in (they wouldn’t) if they had an antitrust exemption.

NCAA agrees to $303 million settlement with volunteer coaches

The NCAA has agreed to pay $303 million to settle a class action antitrust lawsuit representing about 7,700 volunteer college coaches who alleged the organization engaged in illegal wage fixing under a rule that prohibited schools from paying them.

www.espn.com

Then they have a separate 50 million that they paid out to volunteer baseball coaches as a result of a lawsuit on volunteer coaches; which of course came from march madness-media-money basketball teams earned for them. That’s why this org is so goddam evil. This is just the first half of note 8 btw lmfao

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But anyways, a lot more company men from universities and the NCAA are often repeating these lies about basketball not being profitable, and just wanted to type out how nonsensical it is. . . . Used to try to make their claims more sympathetic in the public’s eyes.

“Basketball isn’t profitable…….because we’ve used the billions in revenue to payback the billions of dollars we suppressed over the past decades.” Or something.

Makes your head spin doesn't it?

 

[NateDogg]

Alabama’s AD would like me to believe that men’s basketball doesn’t make a profit despite this nakedly public information at hand:



Only way his comment about basketball not making a profit makes any sense is if he is lumping men’s and women’s basketball together; in that case, their women’s team doesn’t make a profit.….still, the math ain’t mathing even by that calculus. Also gotta love whatever tf non—program specific entails

Alabama AD Greg Byrne Talks CFP Expansion, Life After Saban

In a wide-ranging interview with FOS, Byrne addressed several topics affecting both Alabama and college athletics more broadly.

frontofficesports.com

Spoiler: The only reason why

Regardless, many conferences (see ACC, XII — the two best basketball conferences) undervalued their men’s basketball inventory by agreeing to package it together with college football. I don’t expect that to remain the case moving forward; but these next deals are absurdly faraway. Another thing that doesn’t get talked about when it comes to March Madness is that it’s an NCAA sponsored event. Meaning, men’s basketball (and to a much lower level, women’s basketball) are literally subsidizing the whole NCAA because the NCAA puts on the event and sells the event’s inventory as a singular units to various networks. This is NOT the case with the college football playoff.


That’s how absurdly ****ed up this structure is/was. Men’s basketball are/have been funding the lawyers fighting em for the past decade lmao. So surreal i gotta laugh. On top of that, march madness also funds d2, d3, etc. So i think basketball’s profitability would be even higher if wasn’t setup to fund a gazillion other different things.


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Like, for example, a 303 million dollar settlement to unpaid volunteer coaches of softball teams or whatever other sport, likely one that didn’t generate revenue at all. But this is why the cap on paid coaches was uplifted. And this would be one of the things that the NCAA could rein in (they wouldn’t) if they had an antitrust exemption.

NCAA agrees to $303 million settlement with volunteer coaches

The NCAA has agreed to pay $303 million to settle a class action antitrust lawsuit representing about 7,700 volunteer college coaches who alleged the organization engaged in illegal wage fixing under a rule that prohibited schools from paying them.

www.espn.com

Then they have a separate 50 million that they paid out to volunteer baseball coaches as a result of a lawsuit on volunteer coaches; which of course came from march madness-media-money basketball teams earned for them. That’s why this org is so goddam evil. This is just the first half of note 8 btw lmfao

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But anyways, a lot more company men from universities and the NCAA are often repeating these lies about basketball not being profitable, and just wanted to type out how nonsensical it is. . . . Used to try to make their claims more sympathetic in the public’s eyes.

“Basketball isn’t profitable…….because we’ve used the billions in revenue to payback the billions of dollars we suppressed over the past decades.” Or something.

 

[cookies]

Makes your head spin doesn't it?

Absolutely. It’s hard to fathom the numbers that i read on these documents and what they’re trying to get done.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Absolutely. It’s hard to fathom the numbers that i read on these documents and what they’re trying to get done.

Superconference(s) with collective bargaining or bust.

 

[cookies]

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15% of annual march madness’ media money, a tournament played only by d1 schools, goes towards subsidizing to d2 and d3 schools (d2 schools give partial scholarships & d3 schools don’t given student athletes ****** scholarships lmao) . Oh and we gotta earmark 250 million for other “association-wide program,” expenses.

“this isn’t sustainable.”

 

[Empirical Cane]

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Why do you hate our Team Synchronized Ribbon Dancing!?

We work very hard on our routines.

 

[Ispyin]

He’s far from the only money behind it. Lots of entities have thrown their hat in this ring.

For example, this bill originally was to lay ground work for full tv rev share among all fbs teams. I believe, but I’m not 100% positive, Campbell was a supporter of this. All fbs teams joining together for tv deals would have created more money for everyone, and would have cost networks a lot more. Of course the SEC (ESPN) and the BIG (Fox) threw their weight, and money, into things to shut that down.

He practically wrote the ******* bill

 

[cookies]

Superconference(s) with collective bargaining or bust.

Too many egos for a super-conference to be formed imo. Not opposed to something new, i just don’t see the leadership on the university side. They are part and parcel of the ncaa. They don’t want the hassle and risk involved

 

[Ispyin]

Lmao, Less than zero chance on that amendment

That wasn’t the point of the amendment. The point was to point out the hypocrisy on wanting to cap the players but not the coaches especially $50 million buyout.

 

[Ispyin]

"First, it doesn’t even pretend to limit the impact of big money in college sports. It limits only the way that money reaches the athletes. It places a cap on the students’ cut of the revenues, but there are no caps on coaches’ salaries or on the size of donations to athletic programs.

Second, the legislation creates a system defined by double standards between students and coaches. Athletes are banned from transferring schools more than once, but coaches can switch schools whenever they please. In no other industry has Congress passed a law requiring a person to stay in a job, or remain at a school, for a fixed period of years. That would plainly violate the most basic freedoms of the American free-enterprise system.

The egregious double standards in the PCSA offer reason enough to oppose this bill, but they are small potatoes compared to the NCAA’s true target in this fight: a sweeping provision to exempt college sports programs from our antitrust laws. It’s those very antitrust laws that forced the NCAA to allow athlete compensation in the first place, and that’s exactly why they’ve been fighting for a congressional exemption ever since."

I don't know why any conservative would oppose this from Chris. He's arguing for open market capitalism.

Because people stop thinking for themselves and only care about who wrote it and what logo or Dior are they have next to their name even if it goes against what they said that they believe in

 

[Ispyin]

It’s not a difficult position to defend. Coaches are employees and the athletes are not. Instead of adding DOA amendments that are nothing more than attempts at scoring political points, like this and the ridiculous coach transfer rule, maybe start addressing the real issues. Acknowledge CFB and men’s basketball are not like other collegiate sports and need to be treated differently. Show me the politician who’s will to do that.

Making comparisons between coaches and players, and saying things like “lets cap coaches salaries”, is just alluding to players being employees without actually coming out and saying players are employees and need to be treated as such.

But then you want to say that they’re not employees but no one wants to let them transfer more than once when they’re not under contract like any other student would be able to. And no one cares whether or not the scholarship they get is revoked after a year to year basis either so essentially a school can transfer out from the player too.


the ******* hypocrisy Here is off the chart.