Proposed House settlement and NIL

This is a ******* mess



Bro literally all the states are in process of passing legislation that says NCAA can't punish students for NIL deals whether approved or not. So who gives a **** lol. Nor is the NCAA in charge of CFP selection. I guess they could TRY to say scholarship and Bowl Bans....
 
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Do you really think all states will
Bro like 30 states already have passed some NIL law, and like all will include some language like this or it will be added sooner than later. The players have absolutely ZERO consequences in anything NIL related, period. Maybe with these contracts schools can clawback some money, but that's about it. The only thing the NCAA can do is punish schools. But if the schools are following their state laws? All that's going to do is lead to CFB completely breaking away from the NCAA sooner than later imo. Again the CFP is already a separate entity from the NCAA I believe. The Conferences are mostly separate and likely taking steps to govern themselves more - especially the SEC/B1G... so
 
Bro like 30 states already have passed some NIL law, and like all will include some language like this or it will be added sooner than later. The players have absolutely ZERO consequences in anything NIL related, period. Maybe with these contracts schools can clawback some money, but that's about it. The only thing the NCAA can do is punish schools. But if the schools are following their state laws? All that's going to do is lead to CFB completely breaking away from the NCAA sooner than later imo. Again the CFP is already a separate entity from the NCAA I believe. The Conferences are mostly separate and likely taking steps to govern themselves more - especially the SEC/B1G... so

We shall see

Still think it is a ******* mess
 
This is a ******* mess





I'm confused by Dellenger's posts.

1200 deals submitted. About 400 appear to be good and were approved. 80 have been rejected. That leaves 720 deals that still require approval, which seems not-that-crazy for being this early in the new process. Let's see what percentage of THOSE 720 deals get approved.

But then Dellenger goes on to scattershot a bunch of vague statements without being clear as to whether these are old issues or new issues.

For instance, "Collectives are paying recruits" is confusing as to its meaning and impact. The collectives have been paying recruits previously, and by paying "in advance" before a certain date, the NIL should be on "the old system" calendar, and not subject to review under the new system. Perhaps Dellenger means that kids who won't enroll until 2026 are being paid in 2025, but in many cases this is legal under state law.

However, I've said all along that there would be confusion, uncertainty, and envelope-pushing. The "lying and promising fake things" has been going on forever. It's all very sad, but foreseeable, given the way that the NCAA dragged its feet and was forced into action by various legal proceedings.
 
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Did. Not. See. This. Coming.

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From Dellinger's article:

“You are seeing a lot of people lie and promise fake things,” a Big XII coach says.

The conference on Tuesday kicked off three weeks of conference football media days from the Cowboys' domed practice facility just north of Dallas, its head coaches, administrators and players jaunting across the turfed field to various media stations on Day 1 of a two-day event. It unfolded in front of a backdrop of what happened a week ago: the implementation of the NCAA’s historic settlement of an antitrust case — a move that has ushered in direct athlete-revenue sharing.

A similar theme emerged from the eight head coaches here Tuesday, one likely shared by the eight others who get their turn Wednesday: The Wild West, they say, remains wild.

The finger pointing has already begun.

Schools are making big enough contract offers to recruits that they cannot possibly remain under college football’s new compensation cap, some coaches believe. Others are guaranteeing third-party NIL deals as part of the total compensation package to athletes — something against new revenue-share rules.

A few are doling out cash from their collectives to high school players in an attempt to induce their commitment — also against new rules. And those schools rich enough to have front-loaded millions of dollars in the spring to compensate this year’s roster — while perfectly within the rules — now hold an advantage in building next year’s roster."
 


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from Ross Dellenger's article last month:

Officials from the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 and ACC are circulating a draft of a groundbreaking and first-of-its-kind document intended to prevent universities from using their state laws to violate new enforcement rules and, in a wholly stunning concept, requires schools to waive their right to pursue legal challenges against the new enforcement entity, the College Sports Commission.

The document, now viewed by dozens of leading school administrators, would bind institutions to the enforcement policies, even if their state law is contradictory, and would exempt the CSC from lawsuits from member schools over enforcement decisions, offering instead a route for schools to pursue arbitration.

The document, described as an “Affiliation” or “Membership Agreement,” is not finalized but a draft of the contract has been distributed to several school presidents, general counsels and athletic directors — many of whom have expressed legal concerns with several of the document’s concepts, which are now being refined.

The document is meant to be signed by all power conference schools, perhaps as well as others opting into the settlement, as a way to bind the group and provide stability around the enforcement of rules. That includes, most notably, decisions from the new Deloitte-run NIL clearinghouse, dubbed “NIL Go,” an entity expected to more strictly enforce booster pay.

The consequence for not signing the agreement is steep: a school risks the loss of conference membership and participation against other power league programs.

“You have to sign it,” says one athletic director who has seen the document, “or we don’t play you.”

“As a condition of membership, you must comply with the settlement and enforcement,” says a power conference president with knowledge of the document.
 
Bro literally all the states are in process of passing legislation that says NCAA can't punish students for NIL deals whether approved or not. So who gives a **** lol. Nor is the NCAA in charge of CFP selection. I guess they could TRY to say scholarship and Bowl Bans....
The states will force the NCAA and the conferences into collective bargaining which is the only thing that can truly regulate college sports. I'm all for the states passing legislation that outlaws illegal overreaches by the NCAA and the conferences. NIL is tantamount to endorsement deals. You can't cap such contracts nor can you hinder athletes from entering into such contracts.
 


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from Ross Dellenger's article last month:

Officials from the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 and ACC are circulating a draft of a groundbreaking and first-of-its-kind document intended to prevent universities from using their state laws to violate new enforcement rules and, in a wholly stunning concept, requires schools to waive their right to pursue legal challenges against the new enforcement entity, the College Sports Commission.

The document, now viewed by dozens of leading school administrators, would bind institutions to the enforcement policies, even if their state law is contradictory, and would exempt the CSC from lawsuits from member schools over enforcement decisions, offering instead a route for schools to pursue arbitration.

The document, described as an “Affiliation” or “Membership Agreement,” is not finalized but a draft of the contract has been distributed to several school presidents, general counsels and athletic directors — many of whom have expressed legal concerns with several of the document’s concepts, which are now being refined.

The document is meant to be signed by all power conference schools, perhaps as well as others opting into the settlement, as a way to bind the group and provide stability around the enforcement of rules. That includes, most notably, decisions from the new Deloitte-run NIL clearinghouse, dubbed “NIL Go,” an entity expected to more strictly enforce booster pay.

The consequence for not signing the agreement is steep: a school risks the loss of conference membership and participation against other power league programs.


“You have to sign it,” says one athletic director who has seen the document, “or we don’t play you.”

“As a condition of membership, you must comply with the settlement and enforcement,” says a power conference president with knowledge of the document.


Will never happen. No conference is going to put out a member especially a prominent member for this. This is a hollow threat. Remember the conference commissioner works for the member schools.
 


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from Ross Dellenger's article last month:

Officials from the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 and ACC are circulating a draft of a groundbreaking and first-of-its-kind document intended to prevent universities from using their state laws to violate new enforcement rules and, in a wholly stunning concept, requires schools to waive their right to pursue legal challenges against the new enforcement entity, the College Sports Commission.

The document, now viewed by dozens of leading school administrators, would bind institutions to the enforcement policies, even if their state law is contradictory, and would exempt the CSC from lawsuits from member schools over enforcement decisions, offering instead a route for schools to pursue arbitration.

The document, described as an “Affiliation” or “Membership Agreement,” is not finalized but a draft of the contract has been distributed to several school presidents, general counsels and athletic directors — many of whom have expressed legal concerns with several of the document’s concepts, which are now being refined.

The document is meant to be signed by all power conference schools, perhaps as well as others opting into the settlement, as a way to bind the group and provide stability around the enforcement of rules. That includes, most notably, decisions from the new Deloitte-run NIL clearinghouse, dubbed “NIL Go,” an entity expected to more strictly enforce booster pay.

The consequence for not signing the agreement is steep: a school risks the loss of conference membership and participation against other power league programs.

“You have to sign it,” says one athletic director who has seen the document, “or we don’t play you.”


“As a condition of membership, you must comply with the settlement and enforcement,” says a power conference president with knowledge of the document.

I remember reading this, I'm still thinking that they're going to have a lot of trouble getting "everyone" to agree to this or enforcing it.
 
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The states will force the NCAA and the conferences into collective bargaining which is the only thing that can truly regulate college sports. I'm all for the states passing legislation that outlaws illegal overreaches by the NCAA and the conferences. NIL is tantamount to endorsement deals. You can't cap such contracts nor can you hinder athletes from entering into such contracts.
Specifically which SEC and relevant ACC states do you think will force the NCAA and conferences into collective bargaining?

Not a chance. If there is collective bargaining, it will only come from the courts.

Some Big10 states would be cool with it, but they’re not putting themselves at that disadvantage.
 
Specifically which SEC and relevant ACC states do you think will force the NCAA and conferences into collective bargaining?

Not a chance. If there is collective bargaining, it will only come from the courts.

Some Big10 states would be cool with it, but they’re not putting themselves at that disadvantage.

Georgia, Tennessee, and Virginia already have laws that go against the House settlement. Michigan and Ohio, also have laws that restrict schools from limiting athletes' ability to earn NIL compensation from collectives. There are 12 other states at this time that also go against the House settlement. If Georgia and Tennessee are going to go against House no way the rest of the SEC states will adhere to it.
 
Georgia, Tennessee, and Virginia already have laws that go against the House settlement. Michigan and Ohio, also have laws that restrict schools from limiting athletes' ability to earn NIL compensation from collectives. There are 12 other states at this time that also go against the House settlement. If Georgia and Tennessee are going to go against House no way the rest of the SEC states will adhere to it.
Agree, but that’s not collective bargaining, that’s giving their schools no outside limiting cap.
 
Agree, but that’s not collective bargaining, that’s giving their schools no outside limiting cap.

What I'm saying is that states that won't allow NIL will get a competitive advantage for the schools in their states which will bring about events that will make competitive bargaining a reality in college sports.
 
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