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Progress on new dorms.

CashMoneyCane said:
This is a great step but we're a LONG way from the dorms being where they need to be. Mahoney/Pearson, Eaton and the Towers are all ancient and awful but today's standards. Believe the towers are next for renovation.
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Towers are not being renovated, they are being torn down.

Eaton will not be torn down, it is a historic building.

Mahoney-Pearson might be a future target for teardown.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Towers are not being renovated, they are being torn down.

Eaton will not be torn down, it is a historic building.

Mahoney-Pearson might be a future target for teardown.
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My son talked to some of his friends in M-P and they told him the company that came in to address the black mold said it was the worst they've seen in years. A student is suing the university because of it. His Pentland floor has been relatively bug free. He said his friends in M-P said it is nasty.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Towers are not being renovated, they are being torn down.

Eaton will not be torn down, it is a historic building.

Mahoney-Pearson might be a future target for teardown.
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Does anyone know if they finally tore down the old Married Housing I lived in back in the early 70’s? Very spartan and military like. I think they were built to with stand a Russian Atomic bomb lobbed over from Cuba. What shytholes, but cheap.
 
Groz73Cane said:
Does anyone know if they finally tore down the old Married Housing I lived in back in the early 70’s? Very spartan and military like. I think they were built to with stand a Russian Atomic bomb lobbed over from Cuba. What shytholes, but cheap.
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Man, that ****e has been gone forever.

There was some married student housing on the other side of US-1, that was gone by the late 80s.

The married student housing on ****inson, between the Towers and Ponce, was gone by the early 90s, and that is where the Wellness Center is now.

All of the other apartment buildings have been progressively torn down and replaced with new stuff (such as the Arena) from the early 90s until now.

****, those old apartments were built right after WWII (GI Bill) and were SUPPOSED to be temporary. They're gone now.
 
CashMoneyCane said:
It's a financial decision. Way more expensive to start fresh in all likelihood. But yes, I'd prefer they go down as well. I stayed in one of them over a summer. Place was awful with the exception of the storm windows and ridiculously cold AC. Some of the best sleep I've ever had.
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Not sure where you're getting your info, but it's pretty common knowledge that renovation is almost always far more expensive on a commercial-level (not taking into account it is usually cheaper residentially). This is especially true when buildings have falling into a state of disrepair at the level the towers are at.

For a real world example, just look at Hard Rock. Cost $400M+ to renovate. Gillette Stadium cost $453 million TOTAL to build anew (according to 2018 figures).
 
Katzenboyer said:
Not sure where you're getting your info, but it's pretty common knowledge that renovation is almost always far more expensive on a commercial-level (not taking into account it is usually cheaper residentially). This is especially true when buildings have falling into a state of disrepair at the level the towers are at.

For a real world example, just look at Hard Rock. Cost $400M+ to renovate. Gillette Stadium cost $453 million TOTAL to build anew (according to 2018 figures).
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Yeah, Mahoney-Pearson is also problematic because it has a basement. I've been down there before (work-study job for the Housing Office when I was an undergrad) and that place is probably the breeding ground for all the black mold.

I would love to see UM build some taller buildings, the elevators HAVE to be better than what was installed in the 70s in the Towers, but it looks like all the new residential stuff is shorter than even M-P.
 
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The Towers:
Pros: Sturdy core construction. Minimal chance of building collapse, even in a Category 5 storm. I had a friend who was there as a freshman during Andrew and while the building evidently swayed, there was no other damage. Storm windows can be closed and completely render the dorm pitch black, allowing one to sleep until 4pm

Cons: staircases were deteriorating in the 1990s. Brutalist architecture that would have fit right in with East Germany. Small dorm rooms.
 
Katzenboyer said:
Not sure where you're getting your info, but it's pretty common knowledge that renovation is almost always far more expensive on a commercial-level (not taking into account it is usually cheaper residentially). This is especially true when buildings have falling into a state of disrepair at the level the towers are at.

For a real world example, just look at Hard Rock. Cost $400M+ to renovate. Gillette Stadium cost $453 million TOTAL to build anew (according to 2018 figures).
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How bad has the disrepair at the towers become? WHen I was at Hecht in the early 90s I remember that the staircases were rusting through.
 
GojiraCane said:
The Towers:
Pros: Sturdy core construction. Minimal chance of building collapse, even in a Category 5 storm. I had a friend who was there as a freshman during Andrew and while the building evidently swayed, there was no other damage. Storm windows can be closed and completely render the dorm pitch black, allowing one to sleep until 4pm

Cons: staircases were deteriorating in the 1990s. Brutalist architecture that would have fit right in with East Germany. Small dorm rooms.
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Other Cons: very hard to move-in and move-out, had almost no parking, or ability for cars/trucks to pull up to the front of the building to unload. Also, the elevators were not great. And community bathrooms were unpleasant. Did they ever put "real" beds & mattresses in (they had those vinyl covered pieces of foam in the 1980s and 1990s)?
 
CashMoneyCane said:
the towers are next for renovation.
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Correct. Even though they are more recent than Eaton/Mahoney-Pearson, they left much to be desired. I heard Eaton & M-P might have historical significance and need special permission to be leveled.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Man, that ****e has been gone forever.

There was some married student housing on the other side of US-1, that was gone by the late 80s.

The married student housing on ****inson, between the Towers and Ponce, was gone by the early 90s, and that is where the Wellness Center is now.

All of the other apartment buildings have been progressively torn down and replaced with new stuff (such as the Arena) from the early 90s until now.

****, those old apartments were built right after WWII (GI Bill) and were SUPPOSED to be temporary. They're gone now.
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Thanks for the update. Lived in the ones on ****inson. Like I said they were shytholes, but we were newlyweds didn’t know my *** from a hole in the ground. A lot of good people, a lot of good dope, a lot of good fun.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
My son toured the simulation hospital last week. He said it was unbelievable. His English for Engineers prof took the entire class over to see it. There is a large infusion of money coming into the university. He was reading where Miami is actually trying to lower tuition. They are going to build a new engineering building. My son is moving off campus for a year. He said a student is suing the university because the black mold is so bad in M-P the kid had to move out. My son lives in Pentland and he said that every sophomore he knows says Hecht is actually cleaner than M-P. By 2025, the campus will have to take a backseat to nobody. Just going to be gorgeous.
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Hecht/Stanford cleaner than MP? I very seriously doubt that. It's more likely that Freshman just don't realize how bad it is. Plus the environment in the frosh dorms is much more fun because basically the entire floor leaves their door open and **** is always going on on the floor. That just doesn't happen in MP. That environment changes how you perceive the dorm imo... I mean the Frosh dorms are 100% worse simply because of the bathroom/shower situations, which is downright disgusting.
 
Groz73Cane said:
Does anyone know if they finally tore down the old Married Housing I lived in back in the early 70’s? Very spartan and military like. I think they were built to with stand a Russian Atomic bomb lobbed over from Cuba. What shytholes, but cheap.
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That went down with the new wellness facility.. years ago
 
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calinative umstudent said:
Hecht/Stanford cleaner than MP? I very seriously doubt that. It's more likely that Freshman just don't realize how bad it is. Plus the environment in the frosh dorms is much more fun because basically the entire floor leaves their door open and **** is always going on on the floor. That just doesn't happen in MP. That environment changes how you perceive the dorm imo... I mean the Frosh dorms are 100% worse simply because of the bathroom/shower situations, which is downright disgusting.
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Oh, he knows how bad it is. His floor is tolerable. He said dudes were coming up from 7th and it got disgusting for a week. RA stepped in. Just reporting what he told me. Just reporting what he told me.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Yeah, Mahoney-Pearson is also problematic because it has a basement. I've been down there before (work-study job for the Housing Office when I was an undergrad) and that place is probably the breeding ground for all the black mold.

I would love to see UM build some taller buildings, the elevators HAVE to be better than what was installed in the 70s in the Towers, but it looks like all the new residential stuff is shorter than even M-P.
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there is a height restrictions for buildings in gables
 
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