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For_The_U said:
They have Tua, Murray, Haskins and Lawrence... we had Rosier and Perry. There is a reason the offense was dumbed down. Our QBs can't hold a candle to any of those four. In fact the comparison is laughable. We had worst qb play in the entire country, bar none.
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Agreed, we also had the worst OC and QB coaching in the entire country. We passed for 52 yards last week... reminds me of the Kirby Freedman years.
 
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ball915 said:
There is no doubt how bad our QB play has been for the last 3 years under Jon and Mark Richt. Watching the Championship games this weekend something that became even more magnified is that who Perry/Rosier are/were throwing to is determined pre-snap regardless of circumstances. Watching Haskins, Murray, Tugovolia, Lawrence this weekend it was so clear that half of the reason they are successful is because they have the ability to find their second, third or even fourth read. How often do we see our QB's audible at the line of scrimmage? Rarely to never is the answer and those guys were doing it all weekend long as they identified defenses that our QB's are instructed to ignore and run the play regardless. (one of a few reasons why our completion percentage is so low) The Richt's have "dumbed it down" so much at that position that it's become counterproductive to our QB's. (part of me believes it's because Jon is that bad at his job and just doesn't know how to coach at all). Do we give our QB's the time those other programs mentioned? No because our OLine isn't as good but what's being taught just isn't working and needs to be adjusted to mask the inefficiencies instead of just trying to plow through what's not working because it has "for the last 30 years". Watch the Bowl Game and bump this thread.
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More often than not guys are throwing to intended target, not going through progressions. The biggest thing, IMO, isn't making progression reads, it is seeing the play and coverage before the snap. A good qb won't have to go through progressions when he sees the match up he wants pre snap. Dorsey was incredible with that. So it may not look like he was going through progressions, he was actually reading it all at the LOS pre snap and adjusting play or running hot route. That is the type of qb I want first and foremost. See what the d is doing, adjust, deliver.
 
SSCane said:
Agreed, we also had the worst OC and QB coaching in the entire country. We passed for 52 yards last week... reminds me of the Kirby Freedman years.
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Agree with that too. Worst qb and o line play in the country, and worst qb and ol coaching in the country. The end result is the dumpster fire we had this season.
 
You're kidding yourself if you think that QB's are coached to sit in the pocket and go through 3 or 4 progressions.

Every QB has a pre-snap/pre-determined read. A place he's told to throw when given a certain coverage. Often times there are no "progressions", the QB is told to read a certain defender.
Ex: "Read the Mike on this play. If the Mike takes the drag, throw the dig. If he gets depth under the dig, throw the drag."

New-age route concepts are geared more towards picking on a specific defender, not the entire defense. This makes it easier for young QB's to adapt and contribute earlier. You don't have to be as smart, frankly. This is why the spread is so much easier on QB's. You space the defense out and give your QB easy one-look reads.

This is one of the places where Richt's offense lacks. It's prehistoric. He has his QB's making full-field reads like it's the 90's. It's not QB friendly.
 
YUMU said:
Combination of what you said and OL..

The OL of all these QBs are amazing.
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The top teams all have excellent OLs. Now every team gets blue chip signees, but they coach 'm up and have better skeems to hide their shortcomings.
I can't believe that more than a couple teams in ACC have talent over us coming out of HS
 
Every video of practice I've seen is sideline passes while rotating QB's, I hope they practice other passes but it has been so repetitive it makes me wonder what we actually practice at? Oh, and even with all those it is amazing how many are incompletions...
 
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