Okay, so the economics is more important than historic rivalries to you. That's fine. There is no correct answer. It's all personal opinion.It is not the sole responsibility of Miami to make sure the FSU rivalry continues to be played every year. Yes, we should care about maintaining the series IF Florida State also makes it a priority. We should not join a conference just because we want to play FSU every year, especially if the conference they joined is good for them and not us. I’m not saying the SEC is that, but the logic is sound. We can keep that yearly game like we did for 10 years while being in another conference.
I’m not sure I follow through on your logic and the “age” argument. My point is - Why should FSU get to choose Miami’s next conference? Why would we follow them if it’s bad for us? I grew up in an era when we were independent and still played FSU every year. It is my favorite rivalry. I’d love to play them every year. That has zero influence on what conference I think we should choose. If FSU goes B1G, do you then choose that conference? Or is this really an SEC preference for you?Okay, so the economics is more important than historic rivalries to you. That's fine. There is no correct answer. It's all personal opinion.
I'm more of a traditionalist (within reason), but as we've seen with college ball over the past 15 years or so, tradition loses out to $$$ (Nebraska vs. Oklahoma, Kansas vs. Mizzou, Texas vs. A&M). At least Texas vs A&M will be back.
Hopefully if FSU and Miami go to different conferences, FSU does make it a priority to keep the rivalry going, but I'm not sure there is another "Bobby Bowden" in their admin who will do so. I hope I am wrong. I don't know your age, but I've seen the Florida and then ND yearly rivalries go by the wayside. Would be a shame to see FSU become part-timers as well.
I'm not saying it's FSU's choice. It's Miami's. The hypothetical is Miami can pick any conference it wants to go into. No worries about partial shares, no worries about if they even get invited in the first place, the Canes CHOOSE where they want to go.I’m not sure I follow through on your logic and the “age” argument. My point is - Why should FSU get to choose Miami’s next conference? Why would we follow them if it’s bad for us? I grew up in an era when we were independent and still played FSU every year. It is my favorite rivalry. I’d love to play them every year. That has zero influence on what conference I think we should choose. If FSU goes B1G, do you then choose that conference? Or is this really an SEC preference for you?
If you think the ACC refs are ******* us, I don't want to imagine how bad SEC refs would do us.Who is jim Philips? I vote sec because I'm surrounded by it and honestly why wouldn't you want to be in the best football conference?
Could be. A definite possibility. Hopefully the FSU admin still has members with the balls to continue the rivalry.For those talking about following FSU, if FSU went to SEC and Miami went to BIG, FSU wouldn't need UF on their non-conference and we could swap UF and UM as FSU's non conference matchup
This got me to thinking about our rivalries and what an ideal conference would look like.I'm not saying it's FSU's choice. It's Miami's. The hypothetical is Miami can pick any conference it wants to go into. No worries about partial shares, no worries about if they even get invited in the first place, the Canes CHOOSE where they want to go.
I'm saying it would be my preference that they choose to go wherever makes it most likely they can play their historic rivals annually - in my example, it would be the SEC. The reason why I brought in age is if you are under the age of 35 or 40, you probably have few, if any, memories of the days when Florida, FSU, and ND were on the schedule each and every year.
In the decades since, they have attempted to "create" rivalries over the years - VT was pretty strong there for a while in the late '90's to early '00's, but pretty much vanished (they aren't even a locked in rival in the ACC). NC has been a thorn in the side for the past 15 years or so, but again, not even a locked in ACC rival.
I'm sure Michigan, PSU, OSU, and Nebraska could become great rivals, but do you see the B1G having any one of them on Miami's schedule year-in and year-out? You know they'd stick us with Maryland and Rutgers every year, no doubt. lol
Looks pretty **** strong to me. Only change I'd make is knocking USF and FIU down to Tier 4, just because they're Group of 5 teams.This got me to thinking about our rivalries and what an ideal conference would look like.
Miami’s Rivals (change my mind)
Tier 1
•FSU (ACC)
•UF (SEC)
Tier 2
•Virginia Tech (ACC)
•Notre Dame (IND)
Tier 3
•UCF (B12)
•USF (AAC)
•FIU (USA)
•UNC (ACC)
•Clemson (ACC)
Tier 4
•FAU (USA)
•WVU (B12)
•Pitt (ACC)
•PSU (B1G)
•OSU (B1G)
•Georgia (SEC)
•Syracuse (ACC)
•Boston College (ACC)
•Nebraska (B1G)
•Oklahoma (SEC)
•Texas (SEC)
•Texas A&M (SEC)
•Alabama (SEC)
•Washington (B1G)
•Georgia Tech (ACC)
Tier 5 (no rivalry / just fun to play)
•LSU (SEC)
•Michigan (B1G)
•Oregon (B1G)
•USC (B1G)
•Wisconsin (B1G)
•Tennessee (SEC)
•Ole Miss (SEC)
•SMU (ACC)
•Stanford (ACC)
Thoughts???