Player Development..

[KevinCosio]

It's not as bad as we all think it is... It's still not up to where it needs to be (LOL I just had an Al Golden moment) but it's good enough to win the costal. This year's draft class will prove that. Even though the players are killing in it the combines and senior bowl events and are raising their own stocks. I think the heart of all out problems is the coaches not putting these players in the right system to squeeze every ounce of that potential they end up showing in the NFL.

The offense should be spread with all the athletes we have, not ground and pound. We don't breed or have currently an offense that should be that way. Plus that's not the way Coley coaches, Al does that to protect the defense and I'm pretty sure he admitted that without saying it before

The defense instead of that patty cake style needs to be a 4-3 attack, uber aggressive defense. These players are raised in this state especially SFL to be maniacs out there. And the staff approaches it the COMPLETE OPPOSITE WAY.

That's the problem, development is an issue and we have also recruited and signed some poor character guys or ATLEAST didn't put together an environment full of accountability but in the end, putting you're players in the right position or putting them in a system to get the most out of them is what needs to be done

 

[01Canes]

Player utilization is where this staff fails miserably in every conceivable area. And it's to the point where player development doesn't even matter because our guys are misused so egregiously that we're unable to compete with conference opponents that are overmatched talent-wise but are able to exploit gigantic coaching mismatches.

- Chickillo turned heads at East-West practices as a 4-3 one-gap DE and may become a Top 100 pick, despite being miscast as a 3-4 two-gap DE who was largely invisible throughout his college career.
- Gunter earned rave reviews for his performance in press coverage during Senior Bowl practices, despite often being asked to surrender 10-yard cushions on the outside in Golden's maddeningly passive, "bend and break while praying the offense makes an unforced mistake" defense.
- Dorsett is a speed merchant who was far and away our most productive WR last year. Averaged roughly 3 touches per game. Criminally underused and not featured enough in the offense.
- Duke Johnson was finally used as a pass receiver out of the backfield again as a junior after having his receptions total dropped from 38 in 2012 to just 4 in 2013. The staff's failure to feature this skill set when he was a sophomore was inexplicable.

Perhaps most troubling of all is that we ranked 11th in the country in yards per play and 120th in plays per game. Golden seemingly coached to a statistic (total defense) instead of coaching to win by having our offense operate at a snail's pace to shorten the game, because he was so obsessed with an irrelevant number that disguised how continually ineffective our defense has become under his watch.

 

[UMFarArcher]

I thought Randy's' doghouse was long and deep.

Golden must have an entire condo for his doghouse.

 

[brock]

I thought Randy's' doghouse was long and deep.

Golden must have an entire condo for his doghouse.

Lol

 

[Iggcane]

Player utilization is where this staff fails miserably in every conceivable area. And it's to the point where player development doesn't even matter because our guys are misused so egregiously that we're unable to compete with conference opponents that are overmatched talent-wise but are able to exploit gigantic coaching mismatches.

- Chickillo turned heads at East-West practices as a 4-3 one-gap DE and may become a Top 100 pick, despite being miscast as a 3-4 two-gap DE who was largely invisible throughout his college career.
- Gunter earned rave reviews for his performance in press coverage during Senior Bowl practices, despite often being asked to surrender 10-yard cushions on the outside in Golden's maddeningly passive, "bend and break while praying the offense makes an unforced mistake" defense.
- Dorsett is a speed merchant who was far and away our most productive WR last year. Averaged roughly 3 touches per game. Criminally underused and not featured enough in the offense.
- Duke Johnson was finally used as a pass receiver out of the backfield again as a junior after having his receptions total dropped from 38 in 2012 to just 4 in 2013. The staff's failure to feature this skill set when he was a sophomore was inexplicable.

Perhaps most troubling of all is that we ranked 11th in the country in yards per play and 120th in plays per game. Golden seemingly coached to a statistic (total defense) instead of coaching to win by having our offense operate at a snail's pace to shorten the game, because he was so obsessed with an irrelevant number that disguised how continually ineffective our defense has become under his watch.

This!! You perfectly stated the problem that I have known intuitively about our poor performance. A coach who wanted to win at all costs, instead of trying to substantiate his "scheme and philosophy" would have looked at our talent and used it better. Instead, we are stuck with the guy who coaches in a way that only benefits his meaningless statistical arguments about process and progress. Trying his hardest to validate that scheme at the expense of wins and our players performance on the field.

 

[timujian]

I think player development has only been really bad at DL. Hopefully, that will change with the new coach.

 

[Al Foil]

Golden's substitution patterns and player usage rates are mind boggling.

How did Phil Dorsett not have 10targets per game? Easy answer, Golden loves to empty the bench in the 2nd quarter for whatever reason. See Damauri Jones vs. GT. Cant figure out why for the life of me.

 

[01Canes]

Golden's substitution patterns and player usage rates are mind boggling.

How did Phil Dorsett not have 10targets per game? Easy answer, Golden loves to empty the bench in the 2nd quarter for whatever reason. See Damauri Jones vs. GT. Cant figure out why for the life of me.

Very good point. Another example is when they inserted Sonny Odogwu at RT against North Carolina, even though Trevor Darling was playing very well to start the game. Odogwu immediately gave up a sack-fumble that was returned for a touchdown. Why would you ever take out a player who's performing at a high level at OT for the sake of randomly rotating lesser talented players? Pure nonsense.

 

[cane since birth]

Player utilization is where this staff fails miserably in every conceivable area. And it's to the point where player development doesn't even matter because our guys are misused so egregiously that we're unable to compete with conference opponents that are overmatched talent-wise but are able to exploit gigantic coaching mismatches.

- Chickillo turned heads at East-West practices as a 4-3 one-gap DE and may become a Top 100 pick, despite being miscast as a 3-4 two-gap DE who was largely invisible throughout his college career.
- Gunter earned rave reviews for his performance in press coverage during Senior Bowl practices, despite often being asked to surrender 10-yard cushions on the outside in Golden's maddeningly passive, "bend and break while praying the offense makes an unforced mistake" defense.
- Dorsett is a speed merchant who was far and away our most productive WR last year. Averaged roughly 3 touches per game. Criminally underused and not featured enough in the offense.
- Duke Johnson was finally used as a pass receiver out of the backfield again as a junior after having his receptions total dropped from 38 in 2012 to just 4 in 2013. The staff's failure to feature this skill set when he was a sophomore was inexplicable.

Perhaps most troubling of all is that we ranked 11th in the country in yards per play and 120th in plays per game. Golden seemingly coached to a statistic (total defense) instead of coaching to win by having our offense operate at a snail's pace to shorten the game, because he was so obsessed with an irrelevant number that disguised how continually ineffective our defense has become under his watch.

This right here, its not the development its how they are used is the problem here

 

[CFLACANE]

Player utilization is where this staff fails miserably in every conceivable area. And it's to the point where player development doesn't even matter because our guys are misused so egregiously that we're unable to compete with conference opponents that are overmatched talent-wise but are able to exploit gigantic coaching mismatches.

- Chickillo turned heads at East-West practices as a 4-3 one-gap DE and may become a Top 100 pick, despite being miscast as a 3-4 two-gap DE who was largely invisible throughout his college career.
- Gunter earned rave reviews for his performance in press coverage during Senior Bowl practices, despite often being asked to surrender 10-yard cushions on the outside in Golden's maddeningly passive, "bend and break while praying the offense makes an unforced mistake" defense.
- Dorsett is a speed merchant who was far and away our most productive WR last year. Averaged roughly 3 touches per game. Criminally underused and not featured enough in the offense.
- Duke Johnson was finally used as a pass receiver out of the backfield again as a junior after having his receptions total dropped from 38 in 2012 to just 4 in 2013. The staff's failure to feature this skill set when he was a sophomore was inexplicable.

Perhaps most troubling of all is that we ranked 11th in the country in yards per play and 120th in plays per game. Golden seemingly coached to a statistic (total defense) instead of coaching to win by having our offense operate at a snail's pace to shorten the game, because he was so obsessed with an irrelevant number that disguised how continually ineffective our defense has become under his watch.

Did you not see Kaaya at the line make 25 checks before hiking? Get used to it.

 

[D_G87]

We've been saying this for 4 years now. Let's take the hint that Golden is going to do it his way and use statistics as his way of defending his defense instead of the quality of play on the field.

It's not as bad as we all think it is... It's still not up to where it needs to be (LOL I just had an Al Golden moment) but it's good enough to win the costal. This year's draft class will prove that. Even though the players are killing in it the combines and senior bowl events and are raising their own stocks. I think the heart of all out problems is the coaches not putting these players in the right system to squeeze every ounce of that potential they end up showing in the NFL.

The offense should be spread with all the athletes we have, not ground and pound. We don't breed or have currently an offense that should be that way. Plus that's not the way Coley coaches, Al does that to protect the defense and I'm pretty sure he admitted that without saying it before

The defense instead of that patty cake style needs to be a 4-3 attack, uber aggressive defense. These players are raised in this state especially SFL to be maniacs out there. And the staff approaches it the COMPLETE OPPOSITE WAY.

That's the problem, development is an issue and we have also recruited and signed some poor character guys or ATLEAST didn't put together an environment full of accountability but in the end, putting you're players in the right position or putting them in a system to get the most out of them is what needs to be done

 

[alnwpi]

Can someone explain the idea behind constantly rotating every player at every position? It doesn't make sense. Where did he get this idea from?

 

[canesman]

Bama targeted Amari Cooper like 20 times per game.

Golden has an inexplicable need to play every kid on the roster whether the game is close or not.