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k9cane said:
One of the way, in my view, you nuetralize a great Dline or a stud like Burns(who was really good yesterday vs FSU) is to go quick tempo, get plays off, have plays with easy completions that can move the chains, and over time, those guys will get fatigued at some point.(Now, I realize the offense if it cant get first downs, will put the defense out on the field a lot, too) but you can hide a less-than-stellar Oline by helping them out in this regard.

IMO, it sure beats running into the line twice and then creating 3rd and long consistently and letting guys like Burns just pin their ears back
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Or allowing the lbs to tee off on your qb with double a gap blitzes. And never adjusting.

Just some bubbles or quick flat routes would’ve changed that. They’d had to respect the field horizontally.

I don’t remember drags , or any kind of pick routes with waggle action. Pick routes and drags will calm all that wreckless blitzing down.

Richt made yesterday way harder than it should’ve of been.
 
Ammok said:
I'd hate to see what poor play calling looks like. Running backwards on 1st down every time?
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Only thing worse than slow developing run plays into double a gap blitzes would’ve just been to kneel. Actually i take that back.
 
Cribby said:
Or allowing the lbs to tee off on your qb with double a gap blitzes. And never adjusting.

Just some bubbles or quick flat routes would’ve changed that. They’d had to respect the field horizontally.

I don’t remember drags , or any kind of pick routes with waggle action. Pick routes and drags will calm all that wreckless blitzing down.

Richt made yesterday way harder than it should’ve of been.
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Last drag route I can recall was the one Ahmonn housed vs Duke last season...
 
k9cane said:
Last drag route I can recall was the one Ahmonn housed vs Duke last season...
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FSU was literally playing defense like a pop Warner team , constantly running the same blitz is unheard of. I know I’m a broken record but that’s disrespectful as ****. That’s a major red flag.
 
That sequence after we got the ball back, up by 1 after storming back to take the lead, that resulted in 3 CONSECUTIVE RUNNING PLAYS made me vomit in my mouth a little.

Besides the fact this offense doesn't attack the middle of the field enough, it's just extremely frustrating that Richt doesn't adapt his scheme to his personnel. We all get it, he WANTS to play power football. My reply to that would be DO A BETTER JOB OF RECRUITING AND DEVELOPING O-LINEMAN IN YOUR 3RD YEAR HERE. Alas, that's not what we are and what we have so my expectation would be that Richt would adapt.....this issue of course, is that he hasn't.

We need a dedicated OC, and by that I don't mean promote his son to the figurehead position.
 
k9cane said:
Last drag route I can recall was the one Ahmonn housed vs Duke last season...
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I've been yelling for shallow crosses for 3 years now. I think we've run like 3 or 4 in that entire time and each resulted in big plays. We have a roster full of run-after-the-catch kinda guys....how we don't deploy this type of an offensive system still boggles my mind.
 
kryptonite said:
You can only do so much. We have to find a way to get Dallas his touches. And JT and Harley. Of course everybody wants to see Lingawwwd get some carries. And don’t forget Homer.

I don’t disagree about Harley’s ability, but there will always be somebody left out.
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I understand that. But I think you force feed him 3-5 times a game. Jet sweet, bubble, whatever you hafta do.
 
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I think Richt’s a mediocre playcaller.

The biggest problem I see is we struggle to run teams out of two-deep looks.

When we get single high, the vertical concepts really stress the safety. When we don’t, the offense is a mixed bag. We don’t run the ball well, even with a numbers advantage in the box. We have to make teams pay for two-deep looks, and we rarely do.

That’s where I think the run game could be more creative. More midline options, more straight options, more jet sweep action. These are all things we’ve seen, but more so in a “trick play” context.

They need to be a part of the offense if we’re not going to be able to line up and get 4-6 yards on 1st down.
 
Running up the middle when the opponent stacked the box made zero sense, and I am one of Richt's biggest fans. I realize this was a big game for a Freshman, but come on. Oh well, I'll take a win over FSU in any condition. If it caused the Noles to underestimate us, so be it.
 
My only problem is the lack of creativity at times
He can become stubborn running the same plays over and over to satisfy his ego.
But the man has the credentials to call plays.
Cant lie those Lincoln riley and art briles type offenses Are exciting..but none of them has won anything yet.
 
TheChosenOne said:
Nah the play calling was ***.

I spent the whole game yelling "SCREEN IT!"and "THROW A BUBBLE!" because those are plays you don't need an O-line to run (see FSU TE screen). It's like Richt doesn't get the QB's in a grove. I ain't saying bubble screen them to death but they were stacking the box all game. It would of help had we spread them out and hit them with some effective bubble screens. It could of hopefully get them out of that 2 deep look but all we did was pound the ball.

Also Perry needs to keep some of these read options. He just has to show he is willing to pull because that was the was problem with Kaaya so everyone just ran after the RB. That is what Rosier provided in the run game.
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How do you stack the box if you're running a two deep look?
 
Savage Cane said:
Our players are constantly tasked with out performing our coaching staff. Been that way for years unfortunately.

Coach Richt has a dozen money plays & I have no doubt the answers to our limp **** offense are in that playbook ( IFormation + flex Brevin ??? Choc / Realist ??? Power ? Off Tackle with a lead ??? Etc.. PA off that ... ). We need a offensive strategiest / playcaller.

We are LOADED in the backfield & have more than enough outside. We need to minimize our deficiencies ( OL ) and maximize our strengths via scheme. Get the most from what we have and STACK chips on the trail.

Just My Outlook. Seen allot of good ball. Seen more than enough bad ball in my time.

God Bless Manny Diaz. El Jefe
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I couldn’t agree more with this post
 
Anybody saying the play calling is flat out terrible just has an agenda. Short field or not it still takes good play calling to put the offense in the best position to score. And there were plays that didn’t have the time to execute bc of pressure from FSU.
 
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KrazyCane said:
Anybody saying the play calling is flat out terrible just has an agenda. Short field or not it still takes good play calling to put the offense in the best position to score. And there were plays that didn’t have the time to execute bc of pressure from FSU.
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Yep, fades on fourth down are brilliant.

I hear that’s cutting edge stuff.

Obviously this thread is above your head, and you using “ agenda “ is irony whd hilarious.
 
Coach Macho said:
Do we run any other plays out of empty, or just QB draw?

Any other run plays besides inside/outside zone?

We have a high school playbook.
Anybody who thinks our offense is perfectly fine can't possibly watch other (good) college football teams.
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I too disagree with OP.

We need to do a better job of taking advantage of what defenses give us and trust our players to make plays.

Also, as you know, depending on where you are on the field, e.g., not on your own goal line, the offense has an advantage on first down because down and distance leaves our offense with multiple options.

On first down, we repeatedly ran the ball into an eight or nine man front coming downhill using what amounts to a delayed hand off. That put us into obvious passing situations on second down, typically second down and, I'm guessing, eight or more on average in the first half. That puts more pressure on our offensive line and more pressure on Nkosi; his completion percentage reflected having to throw against a defense that knew he was going to pass. His sacks and QB pressures against us, in part, also are a reflection of that. And, It doesn't help that we continue to play Jahir Jones.

Anyway, in the first half, we averaged 1.9 yards on first down. Obviously that's not acceptable. I get wanting to protect Nkosi and wanting to establish the run, both are important, but the way Richt went about it, running against 8 or 9 in the box on first down, was counterproductive and will cost us in the future against better teams, if he does not make adjustments. Running into those types of fronts, also runs the risk of getting our running backs seriously banged up. It is concerning that we did not adjust to what FSU was doing defensively earlier in the game, as I recall they played a single safety high for what seemed like much of the time, and that we did not expect that they would attempt to take away the run by stacking the box. To be clear, I'm not calling for an air raid, just more in-game adjustments on first down to counter our opponents. That will be something to pay attention to going forward.

I read in another thread where Canes were raving about Richt's willingness to go for it on 4th down as evidence of Coach not being a conservative play caller, and I'm glad too that he did go for it on those fourth downs, we all are, but it should not have come down to having to go for it on 4th down. And the way to fix that, is to do more with first down. That is correctable, but is Richt willing to do it? We shall see.
 
bowdenbme said:
CREDITABLE?? Man this had me dying!! This is some gator level of spelling man
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****. I just love the grammar police. Just respond to the post if you can put your credentials down long enough. Every one else seemed to understand
 
Cribby said:
Yep, fades on fourth down are brilliant.

I hear that’s cutting edge stuff.

Obviously this thread is above your head, and you using “ agenda “ is irony whd hilarious.
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What about the TD passes to Brevin Jordan and Jeff Thomas?? The drop from Cager going across the middle was perfect play that would’ve been a TD as well. u do know coaches are calling plays based on the looks the defense is giving them right?

I know the lens you judge play calling is based on how the IQ was on NCAA Football but that’s not reality. you would be a terrible play caller in a real cfb game. Yes there were calls I didn’t like but there were calls I did like as well and there were enough good calls to win the game.

Your agenda (and others) is to pin every failed drive on play calling when it’s obvious that inconsistency with the Oline play is the biggest thing keeping us from scoring 50+ a game.
 
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