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Piggy Back Thread - JOSH GATTIS NON-HYPE THREAD

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I made this point a few weeks ago in some recruiting threads. Part of this is on Gattis...I'll give you most of it. Because he's not calling anything that goes downfield with any regularity, we don't make explosive plays at all.

If you deep dive and look at numbers below 10 yards...for example, plays of just 7 yards or more, we are in the bottom 20 of the nation, too and we are middle of the road in the nation when it comes to plays of 4 yards or more. That means we are basically a team that gets under 3 yards per play most times out. Any time we are behind schedule, our drives are ******* toast. We struggle to make up yards. All of that tracks with our on-field results. It doesn't help we are one of the more penalized teams in the country.

Now why do I say "mostly" Gattis? Because if you're generating that little yardage play to play...thats skill guys not making a guy miss, thats your skill guys not fighting for extra yards, thats missed blocks, thats misreading your blocking as a skill guy, thats dropped easy passes, thats your QB not being accurate with his ball placement...basically, there is a lot of user error in that as well...all of which tracks when you watch the games, too.

In sum, all of this tracks with what you see on game day...its not just Gattis...its a collective effort to be this terrible on offense and yeah, its the worst Miami offense I've ever seen.
 
KANE said:
Facts!!! ****, I’m a HS DC, and I know I could call a better offensive game than GattASS… using his playbook. The guy is *****-ah-BOL!!
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Lol I believe you! I've said in a couple threads that I coached flag football up to high school, and I've NEVER seen a playbook so limited. Not at any level. We can all complain about the results, but its hard to put into words just how bad it really is because nothing compares to it. It has no equal!
 
Cane4life18 said:
Look at 2021 stats to now. We are worse in every single category. That means we've regressed in all aspects on offense.

Yes, the players should take some blame but ultimately this falls on the feet of Mario and Gattis. Gattis has to go, there's no other way around it.
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Round peg (players) into square hole (Gattis) = regression
 
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BoxingRobes said:
I made this point a few weeks ago in some recruiting threads. Part of this is on Gattis...I'll give you most of it. Because he's not calling anything that goes downfield with any regularity, we don't make explosive plays at all.

If you deep dive and look at numbers below 10 yards...for example, plays of just 7 yards or more, we are in the bottom 20 of the nation, too and we are middle of the road in the nation when it comes to plays of 4 yards or more. That means we are basically a team that gets under 3 yards per play most times out. Any time we are behind schedule, our drives are ******* toast. We struggle to make up yards. All of that tracks with our on-field results. It doesn't help we are one of the more penalized teams in the country.

Now why do I say "mostly" Gattis? Because if you're generating that little yardage play to play...thats skill guys not making a guy miss, thats your skill guys not fighting for extra yards, thats missed blocks, thats misreading your blocking as a skill guy, thats dropped easy passes, thats your QB not being accurate with his ball placement...basically, there is a lot of user error in that as well...all of which tracks when you watch the games, too.

In sum, all of this tracks with what you see on game day...its not just Gattis...its a collective effort to be this terrible on offense and yeah, its the worst Miami offense I've ever seen.
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No one is disagreeing with you

But, Gattis is gone, let’s just move on to the next chapter
 
AlexCane said:
I hope we win Saturday but there is a small part of me that hopes we lose so the misery ends and Cristobal fires him come Monday and we can start anew with some optimism for next season.
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We can score 100 points versus Pitt, won't matter. Do you actually think a good offensive performance against Pitt will change anything? Please…
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
I remember after the Bethune game I sounded the alarms that we took zero deep shots and no explosive plays.

I was assured he was saving the playbook lol.

Never believe that one fellas. Bethune game told the story.
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x2

I’m always skeptical on the “save the playbook” mess, it’s BS but I’m forever calling folks out on it from this point forward lol. If that is ever being said then it’s a 90% chance we’re fvcked.
 
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htownkidd said:
x2

I’m always skeptical on the “save the playbook” mess, it’s BS but I’m forever calling folks out on it from this point forward lol. If that is ever being said then it’s a 90% chance we’re fvcked.
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100%. Not to mention, you shouldn't need to open the playbook to drop some bombs on Bethune cookman. A fly route isn't some genius concept that should be withheld.

We learned afterwards, its just not preferred to have explosive plays. They preferred the ball controll smashmouth bro style.
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
100%. Not to mention, you shouldn't need to open the playbook to drop some bombs on Bethune cookman. A fly route isn't some genius concept that should be withheld.

We learned afterwards, its just not preferred to have explosive plays. They preferred the ball controll smashmouth bro style.
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It might be a few months or a couple years, but I’ll bet my house and 401k that insane stories about Gattis while at Miami will come out.

Mario has done a great job keeping stuff in house even though Gattis is the only coach on staff blaming players publicly
 
Cane6 said:
No one is disagreeing with you

But, Gattis is gone, let’s just move on to the next chapter
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We are all aware of that.

...but to move on to the next chapter, removing Gattis is only going to change so much. That is a long standing tradition here at CanesInsight dot com...corches corches corches...but nothing ever changes. We are going to be 5-7 or 6-6 at the end of the regular season this year without generating big plays at all. We were 7-5 last season generating big plays. I'm not sure about you, but 5-7, 6-6, 7-5 is basically shopping in the same aisle in college football.

So, next year, where do the big plays come in? You can ditch Gattis and bring back everyone's favorite, Rhett Lashlee and I am not sure where there will be a big improvement in team wins. New playcaller is nice, but players are necessary.

From 2021 to 2022, we lost 48% of our receiving yards, 43% of our receiving touchdowns, 42% of rushing yards, 40% of our rushing TDs.

If things hold against Pitt...we essentially will have a total offensive output that - oddly enough - will be 45% lower than last year. 30% reduction in scoring offense. Again, part of that is on Gattis and the playcalling, but there is literally no one on this roster that has even attempted to replace those numbers. "Next Man Up!"...they didn't show up this year. And this roster had to replace a bunch of undrafted free agents that shouldered the load of that 45% (Rambo, Harley, Harris). So, imagine the dudes behind them (you've already seen them).

So, moving on to next season...who even steps up to replace those guys.

This is something @Coach Macho and others have discussed before...but since this is yet another thread on the same topic...it needs to be re-stated. You can replace Gattis with whoever you want. But if we are still trotting out what we've got or fail to get better players...this thing doesn't get better any time soon.
 
Wow. This is worse than I would’ve guessed.

Even if Mario wanted to keep the guy, which I don’t know why he would, there’s just no way he can. Zero justification. I really hope the trigger is pulled right after the Pitt L.
 
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