Perspective from ND Fan

First, thanks for letting me join and chime in on this Sunday's game from a Notre Dame perspective. Yes, there are some ND fans (not unlike any fanbase) that think we shouldn't have a problem beating Miami on Sunday. I've read similar posts from Miami fans on this message board - we're all fans and support our guys - that's who we are and what makes this fun: tribalism.

Second, I'll tell you the mindset of educated ND Fans and where we're coming from - why there's reason for us to be confident in certain areas and why we're hoping for the best in others. I've seen some other posts here that give grades/analysis by position group, which is how my mind works as well, but I won't compare our position groups to your opposing groups (EX: ND RBs vs. Miami DL/LBs). I think all positions rooms are interconnected in the success of collective group - it's not quite that binary to me. Forgive me, this will be heavy on Notre Dame insight. I know a decent amount about Miami, but obviously my Notre Dame intel is far greater.

Finally, I have no idea what's going to happen on Sunday night. I believe it'll be a good game, and probably pretty low scoring. I do know this Notre Dame team is not going to be intimidated by the environment (except maybe CJ since it's his first start). Freeman is the real deal and this is a team full of players who played at A&M last year in front of 107k (I was there) and made it to all the way to the national championship game last year (I was there as well). That's really good experience to draw on.

RB: We believe this to be the most talented and deepest RB room in America. Jeremiyah Love is a different caliber of player, one we haven't seen in South Bend in a long time. We also believe his #2, Jadarian Price, is an NFL-caliber back. I think we'll see some different looks from ND's offense this year with both on the field, and possibly splitting out Love into the slot to force 1:1 coverage with a LB or Safety. That's a matchup we would like very much. This is an A++ room, no doubt.

OL: There were a lot of people considering the Notre Dame OL as the preseason favorite for the Joe Moore award this year. I think they'd be a contender if Charles Jagusah was healthy all year, but even then, I have questions. They return a lot from last year, but we also struggled in run block and pass pro against the better teams we played. Does Bain switch sides? I'd guess he'd have more success against our LT, Anthonie Knapp, who is undersized for the position. RT, Aamil Wagner, is much larger and has been mentioned in All-America conversations. There's lots more to say on this Miami DL/ND OL matchup. Overall: I think ND's floor in this room is a B+, but could be an A-. Need to see more.

WR/TE: We believe we've upgraded the WR room since last year, pretty significantly. I don't know that we have the 'homerun hitter' we've been missing for a long time, but I think this is a very solid group. Greathouse showed he can be depended on in the playoff and we added Malachi Fields from UVA and Will Pauling from Wisconsin. There's a good amount of young talent as well. Eli Raridon at TE could be a matchup nightmare and should be CJ Carr's best friend. 6'7"/250 and can move. It'll be interesting to see this matchup with an overhauled Miami secondary. Overall, I give this group a B+.

QB: Honestly, who knows ... CJ has a lot of talent and the ceiling is high, but he's obviously young. Having your first game on the road against a good Miami team is a tough spot. He's a gun-slinger and rumor is he presses. With that comes some amazing throws, but also silly mistakes. My hope is the game plan and Miami-specific installs limit those and he throws less than 2 INTs on Sunday. I tend to think he'll get a lot better throughout the year and I certainly wish he'd get 2 or 3 cupcakes before Miami. Hopefully it's a B.

DL: Not having Jordan Bothelo for Miami hurts. He sets the edge really well and is extremely valuable in the run game. Luckily, there's depth at DE, and ND will run this by committee. A name to keep an eye on is, Bryce Young. He's true sophomore and he's 6'7"/275. We're pretty high on him and expect a lot of production this year. The interior DL was our concern pre-camp, but we might be okay here. We've heard really good things about Jason Onye at DT (long story with him over the years). So, here's an area we're 'hoping' is solid - we'll have to see. This is another area ND will run by committee to keep a less talented IDL fresh. Edge: A- / IDL: B.

LB: We're really good here. Not going to blow you away like Saban's LBs or Georgia's LBs when they've been really good, but probably the best LB group ND has had since the 90s? Might be. No super stars (hopefully 'yet'), but we have four really good ones (Drayk Bowen is the highest PFF returning starter at LB in college football). We blitz them a lot to pressure the QB, which we absolutely need to do to win this game. Beck is outstanding when he has time, but he was one of the worst in the Power 4 last year when pressured. We have the ability to do this because of our secondary (see below). Overall: A- (could be A)

Secondary: Here's a group we're pretty confident in. Leonard Moore is a pre-season first team All-American and the #1 PFF ranked CB in America. Opposite him, is Christian Gray, who's a very good college corner. Sometimes he gets picked on because Moore has taken away half the field. Miami has young talent, and these guys have to do their job, so the DL and LBs can focus on stopping the run. Adon Shuler, at Safety, is a guy we like a lot. He's going to be more of a roamer in the outfield this year, whereas last year he played a lot of underneath. We run a 4-2-5 with a lot of pressure and we brought in Devonta Smith, Alabama's starting nickel from last year to play the slot position. Expect to see him on blitzes as well. Overall: this group is an A.

As you can tell - this comes down to QB play for us. There's a lot to like about this team and as long as they stop the run and take care of the ball on Sunday, we'll have a great opportunity to win. Miami has some dudes. As I said before, I expect a low scoring game and it likely coming down to the 4th quarter. Sorry for the long post - couldn't get to everything, but happy to interact.

lol at Joe moore
 
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Congrats guys. Really good win for your program. Your O line was definitely better than ours. ND will definitely get better. Really poor play calling both sides of the ball. You can't have Carr having more carries than Love and Price. Horrible. The breaks just sometimes don't go your way. Good luck this season. You guys played really well.
 
Congrats guys. Really good win for your program. Your O line was definitely better than ours. ND will definitely get better. Really poor play calling both sides of the ball. You can't have Carr having more carries than Love and Price. Horrible. The breaks just sometimes don't go your way. Good luck this season. You guys played really well.


Appreciated.

If you recall my predictions, it pretty much held to form.

Your OL and DL, while talented, were overrated. Miami prevented the huge 48+ yard runs from Love and Price, and neither guy broke 100 yards. Carr did not beat us with either his passing or running. Malachi Fields was the player that we all expected that he was, but Carr only found him 3 times. And your amazing DBs were excellent in pass interference, but not so good in regular coverage.

Sorry that our conservative playcalling and letting your gigantic tight end get open by 20 yards which gave y'all false hope, but I called the win AND how it would happen.

Now go out there and beat everyone else and make Miami look even better.
 
I highly doubt that
Carter Davis must have trained with Patrick and Tony lol.
Frustrated World Cup GIF
 
Congrats guys. Really good win for your program. Your O line was definitely better than ours. ND will definitely get better. Really poor play calling both sides of the ball. You can't have Carr having more carries than Love and Price. Horrible. The breaks just sometimes don't go your way. Good luck this season. You guys played really well.
You cool with me. Especially after y'all lost. Lol

@flagator86 you got competition, my guy.
 
Congrats guys. Really good win for your program. Your O line was definitely better than ours. ND will definitely get better. Really poor play calling both sides of the ball. You can't have Carr having more carries than Love and Price. Horrible. The breaks just sometimes don't go your way. Good luck this season. You guys played really well.
The OC couldn’t do anything he knew his OLine was getting worked hence all the screens and finally at half he went to last years playbook and started running designed QB runs because he was drawing up blanks

When Carr needed to sit back in the pocket and actually pass that last drive was telling because yalls tackles got destroyed for sacks… he knew he had few options
 
i wouldn't call their OL/DL overrated. we're just that good.

ND's DL did about as well as you could hope for against the best OL in the country. ND had to call conservative to aid their young QB, and i think we matched them in order to force Carr to beat us and not give them any easy points off turnovers or short fields. We knew we had the better team. The refs did what we all knew they'd do, and it still wasn't enough.

both teams will get better as the season goes on, especially as carr gets more experience, and i wouldnt be surprised to run into ND again in the playoffs in what would likely be a higher scoring game.
 
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i wouldn't call their OL/DL overrated. we're just that good.

ND's DL did about as well as you could hope for against the best OL in the country. ND had to call conservative to aid their young QB, and i think we matched them in order to force Carr to beat us and not give them any easy points off turnovers or short fields. We knew we had the better team. The refs did what we all knew they'd do, and it still wasn't enough.

both teams will get better as the season goes on, especially as carr gets more experience, and i wouldnt be surprised to run into ND again in the playoffs in what would likely be a higher scoring game.


Double-D, we were told that ND's OL and DL were among the best in the country. I am not saying they should be ranked 130th or anything, but they certainly did not PLAY like the best lines in the country.

So in that respect, they were overrated. Maybe they can recover. Maybe down the road they will play like top OLs and DLs in the country. But for now, based on they claims about all their experience (OL) and all the depth they would be able to roll at us (DL), they were simply overrated.
 
First, thanks for letting me join and chime in on this Sunday's game from a Notre Dame perspective. Yes, there are some ND fans (not unlike any fanbase) that think we shouldn't have a problem beating Miami on Sunday. I've read similar posts from Miami fans on this message board - we're all fans and support our guys - that's who we are and what makes this fun: tribalism.

Second, I'll tell you the mindset of educated ND Fans and where we're coming from - why there's reason for us to be confident in certain areas and why we're hoping for the best in others. I've seen some other posts here that give grades/analysis by position group, which is how my mind works as well, but I won't compare our position groups to your opposing groups (EX: ND RBs vs. Miami DL/LBs). I think all positions rooms are interconnected in the success of collective group - it's not quite that binary to me. Forgive me, this will be heavy on Notre Dame insight. I know a decent amount about Miami, but obviously my Notre Dame intel is far greater.

Finally, I have no idea what's going to happen on Sunday night. I believe it'll be a good game, and probably pretty low scoring. I do know this Notre Dame team is not going to be intimidated by the environment (except maybe CJ since it's his first start). Freeman is the real deal and this is a team full of players who played at A&M last year in front of 107k (I was there) and made it to all the way to the national championship game last year (I was there as well). That's really good experience to draw on.

RB: We believe this to be the most talented and deepest RB room in America. Jeremiyah Love is a different caliber of player, one we haven't seen in South Bend in a long time. We also believe his #2, Jadarian Price, is an NFL-caliber back. I think we'll see some different looks from ND's offense this year with both on the field, and possibly splitting out Love into the slot to force 1:1 coverage with a LB or Safety. That's a matchup we would like very much. This is an A++ room, no doubt.

OL: There were a lot of people considering the Notre Dame OL as the preseason favorite for the Joe Moore award this year. I think they'd be a contender if Charles Jagusah was healthy all year, but even then, I have questions. They return a lot from last year, but we also struggled in run block and pass pro against the better teams we played. Does Bain switch sides? I'd guess he'd have more success against our LT, Anthonie Knapp, who is undersized for the position. RT, Aamil Wagner, is much larger and has been mentioned in All-America conversations. There's lots more to say on this Miami DL/ND OL matchup. Overall: I think ND's floor in this room is a B+, but could be an A-. Need to see more.

WR/TE: We believe we've upgraded the WR room since last year, pretty significantly. I don't know that we have the 'homerun hitter' we've been missing for a long time, but I think this is a very solid group. Greathouse showed he can be depended on in the playoff and we added Malachi Fields from UVA and Will Pauling from Wisconsin. There's a good amount of young talent as well. Eli Raridon at TE could be a matchup nightmare and should be CJ Carr's best friend. 6'7"/250 and can move. It'll be interesting to see this matchup with an overhauled Miami secondary. Overall, I give this group a B+.

QB: Honestly, who knows ... CJ has a lot of talent and the ceiling is high, but he's obviously young. Having your first game on the road against a good Miami team is a tough spot. He's a gun-slinger and rumor is he presses. With that comes some amazing throws, but also silly mistakes. My hope is the game plan and Miami-specific installs limit those and he throws less than 2 INTs on Sunday. I tend to think he'll get a lot better throughout the year and I certainly wish he'd get 2 or 3 cupcakes before Miami. Hopefully it's a B.

DL: Not having Jordan Bothelo for Miami hurts. He sets the edge really well and is extremely valuable in the run game. Luckily, there's depth at DE, and ND will run this by committee. A name to keep an eye on is, Bryce Young. He's true sophomore and he's 6'7"/275. We're pretty high on him and expect a lot of production this year. The interior DL was our concern pre-camp, but we might be okay here. We've heard really good things about Jason Onye at DT (long story with him over the years). So, here's an area we're 'hoping' is solid - we'll have to see. This is another area ND will run by committee to keep a less talented IDL fresh. Edge: A- / IDL: B.

LB: We're really good here. Not going to blow you away like Saban's LBs or Georgia's LBs when they've been really good, but probably the best LB group ND has had since the 90s? Might be. No super stars (hopefully 'yet'), but we have four really good ones (Drayk Bowen is the highest PFF returning starter at LB in college football). We blitz them a lot to pressure the QB, which we absolutely need to do to win this game. Beck is outstanding when he has time, but he was one of the worst in the Power 4 last year when pressured. We have the ability to do this because of our secondary (see below). Overall: A- (could be A)

Secondary: Here's a group we're pretty confident in. Leonard Moore is a pre-season first team All-American and the #1 PFF ranked CB in America. Opposite him, is Christian Gray, who's a very good college corner. Sometimes he gets picked on because Moore has taken away half the field. Miami has young talent, and these guys have to do their job, so the DL and LBs can focus on stopping the run. Adon Shuler, at Safety, is a guy we like a lot. He's going to be more of a roamer in the outfield this year, whereas last year he played a lot of underneath. We run a 4-2-5 with a lot of pressure and we brought in Devonta Smith, Alabama's starting nickel from last year to play the slot position. Expect to see him on blitzes as well. Overall: this group is an A.

As you can tell - this comes down to QB play for us. There's a lot to like about this team and as long as they stop the run and take care of the ball on Sunday, we'll have a great opportunity to win. Miami has some dudes. As I said before, I expect a low scoring game and it likely coming down to the 4th quarter. Sorry for the long post - couldn't get to everything, but happy to interact.

RB - C and Love is overrated. Not sure he understands this isn't track and there aren't any extra points for random hurdles. Price is a better RB than Love but he'd be 3rd - 4th sting at Miami. You wouldn't be ND if you weren't overrated at the RB position. Love won't be a NFL RB. Dudes like him get spit out of the league pretty quickly. Looking for the homerun gets you cut.

OL - Are you kidding? F-- at best. Your C is the only dude that didn't get absolutely owned. Garbage. LOL like are we even kidding here.

DL - C That Bryce Young I am not sure even played. Trash. Traore is a good player. This would have been a F grade without him.

LB - A+ Viliamu-Asa owned our TE's. Overall the LB corps on this squad is fire. Without a doubt the strength of Notre Dame

Secondary - B and kind of over-hyped. #15 Leonard Moore repeatedly got owned by Daniels and Marion. He will live forever will be the CJ Daniels catch when he got put on skates and posterized for a TD. #29 was not good. Marion schooled him and won the game for us. Best CB in CFB lol. #21 will have nightmare the rest of his life because of Baby Jesus. Good unit but they got beat a lot by our young WR. Not to mention they should have been called for at least 3 personal fouls and 6 pass interference penalties.

WR - D and the only play they made all night was by Fields or it would have been a F.

QB - C and did ok. They didn't ask him to do much and his only completions were either at the line of scrimmage or when we dropped off in coverage. Just can't judge
 
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