Per Matt Porter

[poncho0091]

I guess Blake is still scarred by the back to back beatdowns Louisville put on us.

There's also no way Strong isn't fueling these rumours.

This made me think about when Randy hired Patrick Nix, because his reasoning was Nix was tough for him during our games against GT.

 

[Ocoeecane]

Right. Matt Porter and Ferman also has Gruden on a plane here.

 

[marshallrc13]

I don't want Strong. I think he is overrated. He ran off how many Texas players? **** by the time the season came around we'd have no one to take the field. I think he owes Teddy B a lot of money because that is the only reason he is making the money he is making now. He is a slightly better version of Muschamp. #BBB

 

[252cane]

Strong is not a great recruiter. He knows how to evaluate defensive guys but his offensive players was not that good at louisville.

Teddy Bridgewater? DaVante Parker?

2 good offensive players in his whole tenure there. Go look at the defense compared to offense. His recruiting on the offensive side of the ball is still bad.

 

[prinmemo]

Urban went from Bowling Green, to Utah, to Florida to Ohio State.

If you're a good coach you'll win anywhere.

I don't agree with this statement (look at Saban at Mich St, for example), but at Texas a good coach should win.

Where did this myth start about Saban failing at Michigan State? He took that program from the toilet and turned them into a strong operation. That was not a big time program at all, and all they ever got was the scraps from Michigan, Ohio State, ND, etc.

Who said he failed? He had one good season at MSU and got a job at LSU as a result.

Dantonio has done a lot better at MSU than Saban. (Dantonio > Saban, just like Fedora > Butch, right, Franchise?)

Michigan State is a B or C level Power 5 program. It's like Pitt, or Oregon State, or Miss State, or NC State, etc etc etc. He built the program there and then moved on.

Not only was MSU 5-6 on the field pre-Saban, but they had a massive scandal that wiped away all the wins of that season. It was an absolute DUMPSTER, and it's a place that will never, ever win a National Championship bc it will never beat OSU and Michigan and ND for the best players.

Compared to Texas which is the number one resources team in America, one of the strongest brands in America, which won 17 games in the 2 season prior to Strong being hired, with several top 10 classes recruited for him awaiting on the team. He then proceeded to complete **** the bed unlike any coach I have ever seen, including Al Golden.

Dantonio is doing better at MSU than Saban did. No natties there for sure, so I agree with you.

The UT job is one of the best in college... Strong is ****ting the bed there. Don't want him.

 

[prinmemo]

I don't agree with this statement (look at Saban at Mich St, for example), but at Texas a good coach should win.

Where did this myth start about Saban failing at Michigan State? He took that program from the toilet and turned them into a strong operation. That was not a big time program at all, and all they ever got was the scraps from Michigan, Ohio State, ND, etc.

Who said he failed? He had one good season at MSU and got a job at LSU as a result.

Dantonio has done a lot better at MSU than Saban. (Dantonio > Saban, just like Fedora > Butch, right, Franchise?)

Michigan State is a B or C level Power 5 program. It's like Pitt, or Oregon State, or Miss State, or NC State, etc etc etc. He built the program there and then moved on.

Not only was MSU 5-6 on the field pre-Saban, but they had a massive scandal that wiped away all the wins of that season. It was an absolute DUMPSTER, and it's a place that will never, ever win a National Championship bc it will never beat OSU and Michigan and ND for the best players.

Compared to Texas which is the number one resources team in America, one of the strongest brands in America, which won 17 games in the 2 season prior to Strong being hired, with several top 10 classes recruited for him awaiting on the team. He then proceeded to complete **** the bed unlike any coach I have ever seen, including Al Golden.

Some of these guys don't really follow football or know any history. They just look up stats on Google. They don't understand that Michigan State has always been a B or C level program relegated to the scraps of Michigan and that other powers in the Midwest.

All they know is the last few years under a phenomenal HC, Dantonio, and they assume that MSU is a power program. MSU was an absolute mess when Saban took over for Perles. Perles ran that program into the ground. Saban built it up and moved on to a bigger better job where he excelled with access to better players. That's how it's supposed to work.

You're elite at making straw man arguments and putting words into people's mouths to make yourself look better. A di ck, even.

I did not come close to saying anything close to what you claim.

Saban did not fail at MSU (and I never said he did). He won there ONE season and then left. That is factually accurate. I do not consider one winning season to constitute "winning". MSU is indeed a middle tier Big 10 conference - one good season (9-2?) there in 4 years is pretty good, but I wouldn't say he won there.

The point of my original post was that, no, a good coach cannot "win" anywhere. You put an elite coach like Saban at Illinois or Iowa St. and I highly doubt he "wins", which to me means consistent 10 win seasons and conference titles here and there. It does not mean Saban is not an elite coach.

Having said that, in the case of Strong, there is no excuse. A good coach wins at UT and wins rather quickly. Therefore, in my view he has failed there.

D i c k.

 

[Jassid82]

I never understand "he is not fit for Texas" or any other place for that matter.
If you are an elite coach, you fit everywhere PERIOD. I want an elite coach like Harbaugh, Saban or even Patterson. If none is available then I want someone I can trust who has done it before HERE and has the burning to desire to do it again. Even if he couldn't repeat the exact same success he had before. Give me Butch Davis and I will be happy.

Urban went from Bowling Green, to Utah, to Florida to Ohio State.

If you're a good coach you'll win anywhere.

I don't agree with this statement (look at Saban at Mich St, for example), but at Texas a good coach should win.

Where did this myth start about Saban failing at Michigan State? He took that program from the toilet and turned them into a strong operation. That was not a big time program at all, and all they ever got was the scraps from Michigan, Ohio State, ND, etc.

STRONG OPERATION!??!?!?!? He had one good season in 5 years there. And he got the **** out of town as soon as he went 9-2 and his stock was threw the roof. Before that season he had "Al Golden" like numbers. (6-6, 6-5, 6-6, 7-5).

Nick will go down as the GOAT but if will be for what he did at LSU and ALA. People will forget those MSU days like people forget that Pete Carroll flopped twice in the NFL. (Pats, Jets)

I understand the "fit" argument but it shouldnt be used for every coach. While I think Strong hasnt had enough time to fix that dumpster fire that is UT football, he should be able to win there. But the problem is that the state isnt a doormat like it was when Mack was there. Mack didnt have to deal with Baylor, TAMU, TCU, etc in his early years. He just had to beat OU and thats that.

Do I want Strong as our coach? No, because that would mean he beat out Butch at the very least and we cannot let that happen. But for people to act like this guy is the worst hire in the history of FBS football is a little overboard.

 

[5Ringz]

If this is just them keeping their options open then ok they are doing their due dilligence. Strong is a good coach who hires good coordinators and kills it in re recruiting.

We could obviously hire Butch, Schiano, or Cristobal today if we wanted to

If he does leave Texas and ends up at VT, that would be a nightmare. He'd have VT full of South Florida savages