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Shooter McGavin said:
Brock should have been pulled during the Florida game I think it was. Whatever game it was he was atrocious. Well Samson rotates with McCoy and with how big that false start ended up being they probably convert the 3rd and 2 and instead had to punt.
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"how big that false start ended up being"

That's the part that REALLY hurts. The lack of focus at crunch time. How do you solve it? That's why Mario gets paid a phvckload of cash and I'm just some hack in front of a keyboard.
 
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BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
"how big that false start ended up being"

That's the part that REALLY hurts. The lack of focus at crunch time. How do you solve it? That's why Mario gets paid a phvckload of cash and I'm just some hack in front of a keyboard.
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I think it was 2023 first couple games of the year he pulled Leonard Taylor after a 15 yarder and someone else. After that nothing. I thought that was the turning point with him starting to hold guys accountable. He sure as **** never held George accountable for his constant 15 yarders.
 
BigDikDaddyFromCincinnati said:
Are you attending the practices in order to actually confirm this or is this simply speculation disguised as a declaratory statement?
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I'm watching someone get a dumb personal foul penalty in a critical situation and not being taken out of the game. I've been watching it for multiple years. Jacolby George should have been pulled many, many times last year. Having them miss game time is much different than running sprints in practice.

You commit a personal foul penalty and you're out for the drive. It's an easy rule.
 
Shooter McGavin said:
I think it was 2023 first couple games of the year he pulled Leonard Taylor after a 15 yarder and someone else. After that nothing. I thought that was the turning point with him starting to hold guys accountable. He sure as **** never held George accountable for his constant 15 yarders.
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Didn't Jacolby get sat to start a game or something? Who knows.
I feel like I should just type "Vegas" and stop.
 
hurricaneman said:
I'm watching someone get a dumb personal foul penalty in a critical situation and not being taken out of the game. I've been watching it for multiple years. Jacolby George should have been pulled many, many times last year. Having them miss game time is much different than running sprints in practice.

You commit a personal foul penalty and you're out for the drive. It's an easy rule.
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So you're not attending practices and made up the bit about players not being punished for committing selfish or dumb penalties. Now, had you written "it's my opinion that if you commit a personal foul penalty, you're out for the dive," I wouldn't have responded in the first place. I get that you're mad about the dumb penalties - so am I. I get that you're mad at the coaches. I also don't attend the practices, therefore I cannot assert one way or the other as to whether or not the players aren't being punished for penalties. It's my opinion that there's some form of punishment being doled out; but whatever they're doing isn't working. I think we can both agree on the "it isn't working" part.
 
ST26 said:
Mario has a bad history with penalties:

2018- 42nd in penalty yards
2019- 111th in penalty yards (64 penalty yards per game)
2020- 62nd in penalty yards (only played 7 games)
2021- 107th in penalty yards
2022- 103rd
2023- 106th
2024-118th
2025- 110th
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Project out 2020 to a full season and that’s probably 238th in penalties, which is especially amazing since there are 128 teams.
 
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mosthated305 said:
Penalties have been a problem since before Mario got here. Miami seems to always get called for every little thing yet they generally turn a blind eye to our opponents. Even watching other teams I see Taint, ND and UGA get away with a ton of stuff that we routinely get called for.
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And is it your belief that refs had a hard-on for penalizing Oregon because they remember that Cristobal played at Miami?
 
For those who attended practice this week, have there been any repercussions for the players who committed major penalties in the game? Like Samson, Mauigoa, etc should be running 50 x 100 yard sprints for all the penalties they committed. I'm sure that'll get them to stop.
 
it's not just the yards lost but the plays negated. And some of these negated plays ether put us in a real hole or took away a play that would've put the game away.

Early in the Louisville game, #61 had an unsportsmanlike (?) penalty that set us back 15 extra yards real deep in our territory. That made a first down basically impossible. It also basically guaranteed UL would get the ball back and with our defense reeling - likely for us to go from down 7 points to down 14 points.

Do we practice with referees? Do we simulate DL shifting and in game signal calling?

A great coach once said:

You don't practice til you get it right. You practice til you can't get it wrong
 
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mosthated305 said:
Penalties have been a problem since before Mario got here. Miami seems to always get called for every little thing yet they generally turn a blind eye to our opponents. Even watching other teams I see Taint, ND and UGA get away with a ton of stuff that we routinely get called for.
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We get tons of bad calls and tons of bad no calls....but we also seem to have pretty bad discipline lapses at the worst times...such as pre-snap procedural **** or holds during crucial drives to put games away or to grab victory from the jaws of defeat like last game. That's on coaching.
 
stormsurge said:
it's not just the yards lost but the plays negated. And some of these negated plays ether put us in a real hole or took away a play that would've put the game away.

Early in the Louisville game, #61 had an unsportsmanlike (?) penalty that set us back 15 extra yards real deep in our territory. That made a first down basically impossible. It also basically guaranteed UL would get the ball back and with our defense reeling - likely for us to down 14 points.

Do we practice with referees? Do we simulate DL shifting and in game signal calling?

A great coach once said:

You don't practice til you get it right. You practice til you can't get it wrong
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It's clear players aren't being held accountable. You practice how you play. Mauigoa had a lot of penalties on Friday night, and what he should have been doing Saturday morning is running sprints for an hour straight. Is that happening? Of course not. Mario is soft and will just pat them on the back and tell them, "It's okay, you got the next one". This isn't just a problem this season; Mario has this problem every year. I despise OSU, but one thing that stands out when I watch them is how disciplined they are. Those players are there to hone their craft. ******* around and thinking their **** doesn't stink just isn't in their DNA
 
Shooter McGavin said:
This. Samson committed a big false start Friday and I assume he was right back out there. Should have been benched for the rest of the game.
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Definitely need to hold players to a standard, whether top dog or last on the depth chart. Surprised not seeing more of this from Mario. Don’t need to sit the rest of game, but play or two wouldn’t hurt. Interesting example would be CiCi against Louisville. Personal foul or whatever killed us. Could argue it was a weak call, but pulling him for a play would set an example.
 
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What has been concerning me more this season is how our opponents all have their cleanest games against us. Then we get some calls in the latter half of games to even things out. All 6 games have gone this way thus far.
 
I hear all of you. False Starts are atrocious. Mirabel get it fixed.

However, we are good for 2 to 3 errant penalties a game. Take last game. Toney fair catch penalty. Not even close. Simply a ref fishing for a penalty. That resulted in a loss of 30 yards. Toney personal foul. Terrible call. So 45 yards on penalties right there for not doing anything wrong. How do we combat that?
 
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