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Maybe institute a salary cap like pro football?
 
The fact that we are in 2019, and people STILL have problems with athletes, or any other uniquely talented person owning their own future, and their own **** likeness is pathetic. Student-athletes are the ONLY students on campus that can't work a job, they can't use their skills to make money on the side. I was a Foote Fellow as an undergrad, and I was free to tutor in my spare time. There wasn't someone there telling me what I could or couldn't do in regards to putting food on the table.

I know I used Student-athlete in the previous paragraph, but let's cut the nonsense: The so called education most revenue sport athletes are getting is garbage at best. If it was TRULY about the education as the bootlickers would want you to believe, they wouldn't have a problem with the NCAA having legitimate academic standards. Those so called "Supporters of amateurism" should have been up in arms as UNC scammed these young people out of a worthwhile education, all in the name of keeping a compelling product on the field/floor. These young people know that they in a lot of cases have no business attending these schools, but are there to do one thing: Play a sport, and make money for entities that collude to keep their wages at near zero. They are there because in order to have a shot at the other side, they have to do it this way. The only people that truly have an out are basketball(and that out is iffy at best) and baseball. Football players, the main driver of revenue, are stuck.

People love to say "If you pay the athletes, Miami sports is through as a major entity". If that's the case then so be it. I'm not going to throw my degrees in the trash, if Miami athletics ends up retreating to D2. I would rather young people get fair market value for their talent, that's what this country was built on, and it's beyond shameful that people care more about their entertainment than basic economic fairness. If a school can't compete financially with the big factory schools, then move to a level where you can. Frankly, colleges shouldn't be spending money on athletics, if they are relying on gouging students to keep the lights on. Get your priorities straight.
 
***-e-skr said:
Has anybody yet blamed the current state of college football on racism or modern day slavery?
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MainLineCane said:
Without a doubt

But per your examples....THEY ARE VERY WELL PAID
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They are also able to NEGOTIATE for salary and for perks. In a truly capitalist collegiate athletics structure, a player like Tua could NEGOTIATE for what he wants.
 
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***-e-skr said:
Has anybody yet blamed the current state of college football on racism or modern day slavery?
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They should. The same mentality created both systems. Monopolistic entities restricting individuals from making their own business deals.

The slavery ain’t necessarily in the unsalaried position. It’s when you force them to not be able to make any money of their own IN ANY CAPACITY under the illusion of amateurism.

These guys can’t sell a stick of gum or even get a summer job. The ironic thing is most of the people who oppose them will harp on and on about socialism and free markets, but think college football is good as is.
 
TruCane81 said:
They should. The same mentality created both systems. Monopolistic entities restricting individuals from making their own business deals.

The slavery ain’t necessarily in the unsalaried position. It’s when you force them to not be able to make any money of their own IN ANY CAPACITY under the illusion of amateurism.

These guys can’t sell a stick of gum or even get a summer job. The ironic thing is most of the people who oppose them will harp on and on about socialism and free markets, but think college football is good as is.
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Of course they will. The best part is that kids that mostly come from working class backgrounds are denied compensation, so the money can get shifted to other athletes from upper middle class or wealthy backgrounds. Let that settle in. The douchey lacrosse bro on scholarship? Guess what, some football or basketball player made that possible.
 
Canedude08 said:
Of course they will. The best part is that kids that mostly come from working class backgrounds are denied compensation, so the money can get shifted to other athletes from upper middle class or wealthy backgrounds. Let that settle in. The douchey lacrosse bro on scholarswhat, some football or basketball player made that possible.
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Exactly. These guys love socialism as long as wealth redistribution is done from the bottom up.

When it goes top down it becomes a different story.......
 
ALLoverCANE said:
It absolutely baffles me that so many people care so deeply about suppressing these kids' wages.

Why can't they just be paid like everyone else in this country: freely negotiated market wages based on supply and demand?

The only two explanations I can come up with are that (1) some people actually think college football is about the education, and/or (2) that people don't actually care about the kids, they just don't want to see their fall Saturday afternoon entertainment messed around with.
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That's precisely what they're doing, you just dont want the outcome.

You're discounting the radical amount of investment into marketing and infrastructure the schools have invested into this. You're also discounting the amount of benefits they're receiving for free, which under any analysis is deemed to be an income. Which, go ahead and do, but you look like a fool when you say they're suppressing wages. They are not.

The scholarship at UM plus the room and board and everything else easily works out to over $100,000. Thats an outrageous amount of money for a college student to make, regardless of the profit they generate.

I think your main point just addresses a gripe about capitalism. No, its not an equal share. Yes, its morally justifyable because this is the only way businesses can operate: the investors in infrastructure, corporate or real, reap the greatest rewards. You really thing some **** ant animator at Disney should make the same as the CEO? Its this way in your beloved free market.

Honestly, these kids should have to pay out of pocket for everything, since the education doesnt matter. Dont want that deal for some reason? Wonder why? Could it be that's all a tangible benefit that you have the impunity to discount by fiat?


I really enjoyed your invalid and contrived Trotskyite buzzwords though, drove your point home.
 
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Pay the players and dont give them scholarships. They will be broke in no time.


Its amateur athletics for a reason.
 
Get a free 200,000 dollar education with food and free room and board.


Yea they deserve more. Some of yall kill me.
 
Canedude08 said:
If it was TRULY about the education as the bootlickers would want you to believe, they wouldn't have a problem with the NCAA having legitimate academic standards. Those so called "Supporters of amateurism" should have been up in arms as UNC scammed these young people out of a worthwhile education, all in the name of keeping a compelling product on the field/floor.
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Can you go ahead and point me to any post, by any poster in this thread that you are calling out that is not in support of academic standards, or was in favor of the UNC stuff?
 
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Lets pay them when most schools lose money on athletics. Yay great idea.


Once they start paying them college football is done.
 
How the **** did making money off their own name/likeness devolve into pay the players? And some of y’all arguments are stupid af.
 
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Edward20 said:
Paid by who though? Because if you pay them, you pay every scholarship athlete on campus the same. Feeling that they should justifiably be paid and it being logistically possible are 2 very different things. Do they deserve something out of all the money they generate? Probably. Will they ever be paid substantial salaries as long as Title 9 exists? **** no.
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i mean i feel like they should just come up with an reward system based off your sport how much the school brings in from that sport and how good of player you are and etc like if you become an all american all conference and other incentives im sure they could come up with a system that works but its rich old white men who love stay rich old white men so what can you do?:confused:
 
crossover22[]_[] said:
Lets pay them when most schools lose money on athletics. Yay great idea.


Once they start paying them college football is done.
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How is any of what they receive free? I’m pretty sure athletes have to practice year round and perform for all those “free” things....
 
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