Paul Chryst back @ Pitt: Not a winning 'fit" for Wisconsin!

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Paul Chryst is back in Pittsburgh today, and his Pitt Panthers are hosting a number of recruits on official visits this weekend.

Sam Werner ‏@SWernerPG 19m19 minutes ago
Just spoke with #Pitt AD Steve Pederson, who said Paul Chryst has not told him he will take the Wisconsin job, if offered.

@SWernerPG 18m18 minutes ago
Pederson did say that Wisconsin reached out to him Wednesday to inform him they would contact Chryst about the job.

For a Wisconsin program that has won 10 games in four of the past six seasons, Chryst might just not be proven enough as a head coach to be at the helm of such a winning program and compel Wisconsin to its winning ways. He also lacks on the charisma meter and is not known as a great recruiter.

What might give AD Barry Alvarez further pause is Paul Chryst’s 19-19 record in his first three years at Pitt. Average at best, with some ugly losses.

He said that while he wants a candidate with head coaching experience, “ties to Wisconsin [are] not important.”

“I think it’s important that there’s a fit,” Alvarez said.

A fit is not just knowing that an incoming prospective coach will stay on the job "until [Alvarez] retire". A fit is about perpetuating a winning tradition.

Randy Shannon was a homer with the closest ties to the University of Miami. He had no intention to leave for a long time. But couldn't win enough games and also lost to lower ranked teams in lower division.

Chryst-coached Pitt Panthers team losing to the University of Akron does not reflect a winning "fit" insofar as one capable to lead and compel his team to win, particularly the games you're suppose to win on your third year of coaching.

Barry Alvarez knows well the story of Homer Shannon at his former boss Donna Shalala's University. He also knows that he lost the head coach job at UM, as Butch Davis bolted to the proving grounds of the NFL, because UM chose its original homer as its new head coach: The unproven Larry Coker.

Coker took that winning UM program, put it cruise control and won a championship. Thereafter, it was a slow but certain decline, then Coker eventually crashed it.

AD Alvarez, a solidly winning coach in his own right, knows that he would have had UM winning and contending for championships. Yet, his old boss Shalala did not pick the more qualified and winningly experienced coach [Alvarez] but went with that first homer.

Imagine Barry Alvarez retiring as coach, and taking the helm from Paul Dee as UM AD. He certainly would not have been hiring all these unproven or inexperienced homers as head coach of UM. Would he do so for Wisconsin?

In the meantime, Barry Alvarez intends to interview a couple more head coaches on his short list, Al Golden not excluded.
 
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Alvarez turned down the job offer not the other way around. UM wasnt ready for that and in a mad scramble panicked and went with Coker.
 
AD Barry Alvarez had already met with at least one other potential candidate.

A person with knowledge of the matter told USA TODAY Sports Alvarez met Thursday with Greg Schiano. The person requested anonymity because of the private nature of the matter.

Wisconsin's interest in Schiano is uncertain. He was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' coach for two seasons (2012 and '13) before being fired almost a year ago. He is known for building the Rutgers program and is thought to be interested in returning to college coaching.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...new-coach-barry-alvarez-paul-chryst/20334885/

Yep. Most likely third candidate is Bevell (Seahawks coordinator).

Chryst not telling him he'll take the job isn't equivalent to telling him he won't take the job. It's on hold for five days so let the speculation run rampant.
 
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AD Barry Alvarez had already met with at least one other potential candidate.

A person with knowledge of the matter told USA TODAY Sports Alvarez met Thursday with Greg Schiano. The person requested anonymity because of the private nature of the matter.

Wisconsin's interest in Schiano is uncertain. He was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' coach for two seasons (2012 and '13) before being fired almost a year ago. He is known for building the Rutgers program and is thought to be interested in returning to college coaching.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...new-coach-barry-alvarez-paul-chryst/20334885/

Yep. Most likely third candidate is Bevell (Seahawks coordinator).

Chryst not telling him he'll take the job isn't equivalent to telling him he won't take the job. It's on hold for two weeks so let the speculation run rampant.

Alvarez wants to hire a coach who is already a head coach. But, does he want to hire a head coach that is clearly unproven as a winning coach?

Isn't that precisely what he groomed as his replacement in Bret Bielema? Alvarez was unproven and 2-10, 5-6, 5-6 his first three seasons then went to a couple of Rose Bowls and owned UCLA. I don't think he cares all that much about proven as coordinator vs hc.
 
"What might give AD Barry Alvarez further pause is Paul Chryst’s 19-19 record in his first three years at Pitt. Average at best, with some ugly losses"

I mean, if Chryst is going to be ruled out b/c of a 19-19 record and bad losses at Pitt, Golden shouldn't even remotely be under consideration for the job.
 
"What might give AD Barry Alvarez further pause is Paul Chryst’s 19-19 record in his first three years at Pitt. Average at best, with some ugly losses"

I mean, if Chryst is going to be ruled out b/c of a 19-19 record and bad losses at Pitt, Golden shouldn't even remotely be under consideration for the job.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Goldens only getting a job like wisky based on his ability to move late model Monte Carlos And datsuns.
 
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Everyone in Pittsburgh thinks PC is as good as gone. And I don't really agree with the bad recruiter thing. Pitt has the youngest roster in all of the FBS. Nearly the entire team are Frosh and sophs - and the Oline is set to dominate. Watch out for Pitt - losing Chryst will be a huge (!) loss for them. He's better than advertised even if his game day coaching leaves a bit to be desired and the D needs improvement.
 
"What might give AD Barry Alvarez further pause is Paul Chryst’s 19-19 record in his first three years at Pitt. Average at best, with some ugly losses"

I mean, if Chryst is going to be ruled out b/c of a 19-19 record and bad losses at Pitt, Golden shouldn't even remotely be under consideration for the job.

At the end of the day it's about winning Football games. Golden had a better record than Cryst at the 3-yr mark when he interviewed as a homer for the PSU job. Yet he didn't get coz someone else did a real turnaround. Neither Golden nor Chryst deserves another big HC gig right now because they're unproven as winning football coaches.

Had he won those 2 last games Shalala get that permission call from BA.
 
"What might give AD Barry Alvarez further pause is Paul Chryst’s 19-19 record in his first three years at Pitt. Average at best, with some ugly losses"

I mean, if Chryst is going to be ruled out b/c of a 19-19 record and bad losses at Pitt, Golden shouldn't even remotely be under consideration for the job.

At the end of the day it's about winning Football games. Golden had a better record than Cryst at the 3-yr mark when he interviewed as a homer for the PSU job. Yet he didn't get coz someone else did a real turnaround. Neither Golden nor Chryst deserves another big HC gig right now because they're unproven as winning football coaches.

Had he won those 2 last games Shalala get that permission call from BA.

If Golden wins those last two games why would he be looking to go to Wisconsin? His four losses with a true Frosh QB would have been against #2, #9, #20 and #22. He would have also been coaching in a much better bowl game.

Doesn't seem like he would up and leave that for Wisky, especially when you consider Wisky's coach just bailed to go to Oregon State. Not really a glowing endorsement of Wisky's current situation.

Again, all of this is completely irrelevant, but I don't think his seat is even room temperature had we finished 8-4.
 
"What might give AD Barry Alvarez further pause is Paul Chryst’s 19-19 record in his first three years at Pitt. Average at best, with some ugly losses"

I mean, if Chryst is going to be ruled out b/c of a 19-19 record and bad losses at Pitt, Golden shouldn't even remotely be under consideration for the job.



Stay out of it
 
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"What might give AD Barry Alvarez further pause is Paul Chryst’s 19-19 record in his first three years at Pitt. Average at best, with some ugly losses"

I mean, if Chryst is going to be ruled out b/c of a 19-19 record and bad losses at Pitt, Golden shouldn't even remotely be under consideration for the job.

Stay out of it

Goldie's Moral Victory column is much better. If you thrown in Pillars, Renewals, etc, you have another Bear Bryant.

I'm certain that Wisky will take all this into account.
 
They didn't panic. They went the cheap, easy route, period. The players wanted Coker, and the administration was happy to oblige. When the fired Coker they went the even easier route in hiring Shannon. Golden was the first head coach experienced guy they've hired since 1989. I'm not against a new coach, but I am scared to death of what we could end up with.
Alvarez turned down the job offer not the other way around. UM wasnt ready for that and in a mad scramble panicked and went with Coker.
 
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