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Patke is the real off-season winner

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Blake Baker being permitted to continue collecting checks for doing nothing but foul up LB recruiting and failing to properly evaluate and develop the LBs is deservedly getting the majority of the attention around here. Mandy's egotistical adherence to running his scheme his way, and keeping his boy Baker employed is also a big attention grabber.

But listening to @DMoney's very optimistic podcast today it struck me that Patke is the one corch on that side of the ball that wasn't mentioned once. Not for his struggling ST unit that can't field punts, not for his pedestrian recruiting efforts, and not for his part in corching our outside linebackers this season. The noise around everyone else seems to have allowed this clown to fly under the radar. Not today.

Since way too many people here will rush to defend Patke because of our awesome Punter, Kicker, and Long Snapper (I'll hit that up soon, too), let's focus on some of Patke's ST rankings this season:
  • UM was ranked No. 121 out of No.127 in average punt return length;
  • UM was ranked No. 69 of 127 in punt return defense (would have been worse but for our stud punter);
  • UM was ranked No. 101 of 127 in kick return defense;
  • UM was ranked No. 60 of 127 in average kick return length.
So we are at or below average in kick/punt coverage and kick/punt returns (and **** near the bottom of the NCAA in half those categories). I don't have the stats, but I would bet we muffed/fumbled at least ten 10 punts this season, too.

Our ST also allowed a kickoff to be returned for a TD against NC State (we barely won that game). We also allowed one blocked FG this season (against UVA, which nearly cost us). To his credit, we did block 3 kicks this season, but they were ultimately pretty meaningless blocks. We did not have a punt blocked this season, but we also didn't block any punts this season.

Some people want to claim Patke (a college linebacker at Stephen F. Austin State) is somehow responsible for Borregales winning the Groza award and Hedley being a finalist for the Ray Guy award. That is utter horse ****. I assure you Patke is not out there teaching the finer points of kicking and punting to these men. Hedley refined his craft with Pro Kick Australia, while I believe OKC is responsible for Borregales (I know his brother is coached up by Oscar Castaneda).

I'm not even going to address his obvious and self-evident shortcomings as a LB coach and recruiter. That's pretty well documented elsewhere. The point is, this is another corch stealing UM checks. Fvck Patke.
 
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It's not always bad to have a guy on your team that does all the bytch work.

400k isn't all that bad. But we think Miami ST coaches are supposed to perform like they're getting paid 1 mil (TEXAS!)



Save your energy and go back to work lol.
 
252cane said:
There is no outside LBs in this defense. And patke wasn’t getting fired after having 2 all Americans and kicker win the groza
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The “Striker” is and OLB and he coaches strikers. That’s it

I agree that having the 2 specialists and their recognition covered all of the other deficiencies in STs
 
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Isn't Patke still considered a Co DC?

Gotta laugh so I don't cry...


Blake James and daddy's little HC in training, and his whole defensive staff should have been tarred and feathered after that MFing UNC game...





RIP The U...




"What must be done eventually, must be done immediately"


And since it won't...



LET IT BURN!!!!!!
 
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Dont disagree on special teams but Striker has been anywhere from solid (at worst) to quite good the past few years (Romeo, Gil, etc.), and that's just a fact. **** on him for his failures but give him credit for where it's due
 
Tough for it to be anyone other than Baker.

Imagine your boss walking into your office and saying you're keeping your job but great news you no longer have to do one of the top two responsibilities of your position.

Crown Blake for owning Manny. Same pay, half the work.
 
Even if there are “no outside linebackers in this defense” … the play of the athletes who occupy his “purview“ leaves a lot to be desired.

But if Special Teams are going to be an emphasis for Miami, then the view that it’s a training ground for walk-on/freshman has to change.
 
Meast21 said:
Dont disagree on special teams but Striker has been anywhere from solid (at worst) to quite good the past few years (Romeo, Gil, etc.), and that's just a fact. **** on him for his failures but give him credit for where it's due
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Romeo? Ok. The others? Then you’re not watching the whole game.
 
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Agree with NFZ 100%. Literally 10,000 other coaches could deliver equivalent or better results than Patke. He's a JAG. There are several people on this board more qualified across both recruitment and development than Manny's gofer.
 
Patke did help land Chase Smith to become a Striker. Gil and #4 did a pretty decent job I do believe. A whole lot better than the inside lbs. One question though. Wasn't Mallory's dad a ST coach up at Jacksonville. Well with their new Urban team coming in I would love to bring Mallory's dad on the staff to help with ST .
 
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His units weren’t terrible. Not sure if he recruited young Borregales and chase smith but if so I would argue that Patke is doing his job. If we have it to blow then fine, upgrade. If not 🤷🏾‍♂️

Edit: he did get credit for recruiting them.
 
252cane said:
There is no outside LBs in this defense. And patke wasn’t getting fired after having 2 all Americans and kicker win the groza
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If you think Patke has anything to do with teaching the technical aspects of punting and kicking, I have some oceanfront property in South Dakota that may interest you.

If you are suggesting the optics provided Lispy enough cover/juice to keep his boy undeservedly employed for another season, I agree.
 
He is sitting back making at least $400k a year and not doing a **** thing for it. Homeboy has it made. Like it was said, his kicker and punter were solid coming in. He coaches a single position otherwise in the form of Striker. And we can make a strong argument that he underperformed substantially based upon the data that OP presented about kick/punt returns and the inverse of those as well. This is a wasted space in my opinion and we missed the opportunity to get value for our money by spending it where we should. He must make one **** of a cafecito!
 
Much more ****ed about Baker than Patke. At least we can point to ST punting, kicking, and coverage (anything other than our ability to actually catch the **** punts) and say we do good there especially if you credit him getting Hedley/Borragles. I am not knowledgeable enough to know how to assess the strikers but they can't be worse than the actual LBs that Baker is supposed to be coaching.
 
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