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SSCane said:
This team is not winning anything.
Not the ACC title, playoffs, or anything else.
We have a HC and OC that have zero diversity or creativity in their offense or philosophy.
They will go back to the drawing board and draw up the same **** we saw tonight for next week and the week after that. Both are stubborn as **** and will never win anything meaningful IMO.
They say the ones who are most successful are the ones that adapt the quickest. Mario and Dawson can’t do that.
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9 wr bubble screens that totaled less than 16 yards.
 
nvlahos said:
The first pick was an incredible play by the Louisville safety. The last one was tipped at the line and another was on 4th down where Beck had to toss it up there

We’re averaging 3.7 YPC (excluding the Bethune game)

You know what that means. Our OL is severely overrated and it’s making our offense one dimensional which does not do the OC and QB any favors

Cam Wards only come around once every 20 years or so. Carson Beck is plenty talented to win a game like this. Coaching is doing him no favors
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Holy scoreboard watch! One of the worst assessments ever on CIS.
 
I'm sitting here watching Georgia and thinking to myself how every situation is prepared for and considered

Georgia, in tight games, has a team full of guys who know-with certainty-that their coaches are ready for that exact moment

Last week's punch out at the goaline was another example of that situational preparation. Some of it is the players, but much more of it is the men in khakis knowing what might come up in a game and making sure their kids are ready for that moment
 
nvlahos said:
There were signs of this in our three “big wins.” But tonight’s game is the epitome of what a Mario Cristobal team is — stacked with talent, yet every game is closer than it should be. We should’ve beaten FSU and Notre Dame by 2–3 touchdowns and Florida by 3–4. Instead, we don’t finish games with aggression and dominance, play down to the competition, or lose games we shouldn’t.

You can point fingers at other factors (Beck, Dawson, etc.), but the main issue is Mario’s conservative approach and how often he gets outcoached once the game starts.

Defense

Why do scheme and coaching matter so much? Because Jeff Brohm just neutralized one of the most dominant players in the country, Rueben Bain.

Quick passes, tempo, off-tackle runs away from Bain, spreading the field — that’s preparation and coaching. Brohm made Bain a non-factor.

Our defense eventually adjusted and played okay overall (Scott and Poyser came to play), but schematically, it’s night and day between what Brohm does on offense and what Miami does.

PS: I don’t want to hear another word about OJ being a first-round talent. He went up against a real first-rounder in Chris Bell and got absolutely torched all night — and Bell was playing on a bum hamstring.

Offense

How is it that our massive offensive line still struggles to open holes?

Our offense — Dawson included — is severely handicapped by Mario and Mirabal’s OL/run game scheme. It’s predictable, boring, and lacks creativity. I said it in the game thread: we supposedly have the “best OL in the country,” but we rarely see the kind of running lanes other teams get (like Louisville did against us).

Our run schemes are too conservative, and that’s on Mario — because that’s how he wants the OL to operate.

This trickles down and makes both the OC and QB look bad. We become one-dimensional and predictable, which leads to the endless screens and conservative play-calling we see from Dawson.

And this makes Beck feel like he has to be Superman (which Cam Ward was last year). But a couple great pics by the defense because of the QB trying to do too much, all of a sudden has him looking like a dear in headlights, with no run game to fall back on

The Core Problem

What needs to change — though it likely never will — is Mario’s philosophy on the run game. We play “ground and pound” football, hoping to get 3–4 yards a play, rugby style.

But once teams get enough film on us, the good, well-coached ones figure us out.

And don’t get me started on Mario’s in-game management. Didn’t he hire people to help here. The timeout management was horrendous again tonight, especially in crunch time. Why didn’t we call our first timeout with 1:50 left when we got a first down near the 45-yard line? It was like Mario was content settling for a field goal

Once again — just too conservative. And I’m not sure that will ever change.

The Reality

Here’s where we’re at with Mario: there’s plenty of evidence now in year 4

He’s a great program builder — elite recruiter, culture guy — but a poor in-game and game-planning coach. And that matters. A lot.

He gets outcoached often.

For better or worse, we’re stuck with him. He’ll keep stacking enough talent to win 9–10 games a year, but will he ever get us to the promised land? It’s hard to see it. Over the course of a full season, Mario needs a lot to go his way to overcome his in-game shortcomings. We’ll have some nice wins, with spurts of dominance but will lack consistency to do it all season, not because of talent but because of our head coaches philosophy

Sorry, but it feels like we’re stuck in purgatory.

PS: Malachi Toney might be the only reason we have three of our wins right now. He’s special — legitimately one of the top five players in the country.
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We won 10 games once in years
Program in toilet and were complaining in year of rebuild that Mario will win 10 games every year?
I agree with a lot of what you said but he was hired to turn the program into a winner consistent winner with talent not being a microwave NT.

Still feel like I always have about Mario hes doing what he was hired to do, he isnt close to being on the hot seat, but when he is he will have ledt the next coach a great program

Hopefully he gets it done before then.
 
nvlahos said:
There were signs of this in our three “big wins.” But tonight’s game is the epitome of what a Mario Cristobal team is — stacked with talent, yet every game is closer than it should be. We should’ve beaten FSU and Notre Dame by 2–3 touchdowns and Florida by 3–4. Instead, we don’t finish games with aggression and dominance, play down to the competition, or lose games we shouldn’t.

You can point fingers at other factors (Beck, Dawson, etc.), but the main issue is Mario’s conservative approach and how often he gets outcoached once the game starts.

Defense

Why do scheme and coaching matter so much? Because Jeff Brohm just neutralized one of the most dominant players in the country, Rueben Bain.

Quick passes, tempo, off-tackle runs away from Bain, spreading the field — that’s preparation and coaching. Brohm made Bain a non-factor.

Our defense eventually adjusted and played okay overall (Scott and Poyser came to play), but schematically, it’s night and day between what Brohm does on offense and what Miami does.

PS: I don’t want to hear another word about OJ being a first-round talent. He went up against a real first-rounder in Chris Bell and got absolutely torched all night — and Bell was playing on a bum hamstring.

Offense

How is it that our massive offensive line still struggles to open holes?

Our offense — Dawson included — is severely handicapped by Mario and Mirabal’s OL/run game scheme. It’s predictable, boring, and lacks creativity. I said it in the game thread: we supposedly have the “best OL in the country,” but we rarely see the kind of running lanes other teams get (like Louisville did against us).

Our run schemes are too conservative, and that’s on Mario — because that’s how he wants the OL to operate.

This trickles down and makes both the OC and QB look bad. We become one-dimensional and predictable, which leads to the endless screens and conservative play-calling we see from Dawson.

And this makes Beck feel like he has to be Superman (which Cam Ward was last year). But a couple great pics by the defense because of the QB trying to do too much, all of a sudden has him looking like a dear in headlights, with no run game to fall back on

The Core Problem

What needs to change — though it likely never will — is Mario’s philosophy on the run game. We play “ground and pound” football, hoping to get 3–4 yards a play, rugby style.

But once teams get enough film on us, the good, well-coached ones figure us out.

And don’t get me started on Mario’s in-game management. Didn’t he hire people to help here. The timeout management was horrendous again tonight, especially in crunch time. Why didn’t we call our first timeout with 1:50 left when we got a first down near the 45-yard line? It was like Mario was content settling for a field goal

Once again — just too conservative. And I’m not sure that will ever change.

The Reality

Here’s where we’re at with Mario: there’s plenty of evidence now in year 4

He’s a great program builder — elite recruiter, culture guy — but a poor in-game and game-planning coach. And that matters. A lot.

He gets outcoached often.

For better or worse, we’re stuck with him. He’ll keep stacking enough talent to win 9–10 games a year, but will he ever get us to the promised land? It’s hard to see it. Over the course of a full season, Mario needs a lot to go his way to overcome his in-game shortcomings. We’ll have some nice wins, with spurts of dominance but will lack consistency to do it all season, not because of talent but because of our head coaches philosophy

Sorry, but it feels like we’re stuck in purgatory.

PS: Malachi Toney might be the only reason we have three of our wins right now. He’s special — legitimately one of the top five players in the country.
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One of the things that is most concerning with Mario is the same issues that plagues him and the team in year 1 is still hampering us in year 4.

For example, drive killing penalties and illegal procedure penalties, etc. We start fast early in the year and then fade late. Lack of in game adjustments. Inconsistency with winning some games and coming out flat and losing to inferior opponents other weeks. Middle tenn in 2022, gatech in 2023 and 2024, Syracuse in 2024, Louisville this year.

Curt cignetti wins in year 1 and 2 without recruiting his own players and even if they haven't won the big ten or playoff, they show more consistency than Mario and Miami has shown.

I hope Mario can turn things around and finish 11-1 and win a playoff game or two, but I am skeptical based on yesterday. Go canes!
 
919cane said:
Beck was atrocious but trying to say we weren't outcoached is absurd. Look at the opening drive. Defense gets a red zone stop after Brohm empties the playbook on them. Protecting against the fake on the fg attempt on 4th down should've been the only thing we were doing on that play. Holding them to 3 points after that drive was a win for the defense. Louisville coached like they had 2 weeks to prepare and we looked like an NFL team playing on Thursday after a 4:30 on Sunday game just going through the motions.
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Out coached, out schemed, out strategized, out played, out smarted, out adjusted, out managed , out thought, out muscled, out matched, and I can continue. This coach is a moron!
 
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MiamiCanesFan77 said:
Trying to think… when was the last time UM beat a team with a decisive schematic/gameplan advantage the way Louisville won last night?

Not just out-talenting an opposing team… beating them with a legit gameplan advantage?
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Never under Mario, never under Golden. Don't recall any under Richt or Radio either. Coker? Don't think so.
 
Coach Macho said:
This offense is the equivalent of what D'Onofrio/Golden's defense was here 👉🏼 A scheme that is not fitting for their main recruiting ground our program is in.

Watching Brashard Smith, CJ Johnson and Isaac Brown hit explosive plays at other schools while our RB's go for 4 yards & a cloud of dust is maddening.

Zone RB's and slot WR's grow on trees in South Florida. But let's run an offense that requires 220lb RB's and multiple TE's. 🙄 And let's run into stacked boxes.
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Are you saying we might be a bit too…conservative that we get predictable and outnumbered? Oh, some folks are gonna have a problem with that.
 
ssvir said:
People correctly said he would be the 3rd WR on Bama.
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He is the starting x wr at Bama. All this 3rd wr or wr3 sh*t is b.s considering teams arent coming out in 2 wide like its ***king 1992.

Bernard by far has been their best wr and Horton is right behind him as that and thats being hurt his stats are just about the same as williams who has more drops as well.
 
dirtyred786 said:
Yes our running game was too vanilla last night. But despite all that, and despite Beck throwing 3 interceptions already, we were still in position to win. And then Beck throws a 4th interception to seal our fate. I can't blame coach for that. Beck has to better.
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I agree. But was that play a good call in that situation? We had plenty of time with 2 timeouts and already in field goal range. What was a soft throw to the flats going to accomplish, even if well executed? If you’re gonna throw there, why not take a shot vertically? But I don’t get paid millions of dollars to make those decisions….
 
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