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nvlahos said:
There were signs of this in our three “big wins.” But tonight’s game is the epitome of what a Mario Cristobal team is — stacked with talent, yet every game is closer than it should be. We should’ve beaten FSU and Notre Dame by 2–3 touchdowns and Florida by 3–4. Instead, we don’t finish games with aggression and dominance, play down to the competition, or lose games we shouldn’t.

You can point fingers at other factors (Beck, Dawson, etc.), but the main issue is Mario’s conservative approach and how often he gets outcoached once the game starts.

Defense

Why do scheme and coaching matter so much? Because Jeff Brohm just neutralized one of the most dominant players in the country, Rueben Bain.

Quick passes, tempo, off-tackle runs away from Bain, spreading the field — that’s preparation and coaching. Brohm made Bain a non-factor.

Our defense eventually adjusted and played okay overall (Scott and Poyser came to play), but schematically, it’s night and day between what Brohm does on offense and what Miami does.

PS: I don’t want to hear another word about OJ being a first-round talent. He went up against a real first-rounder in Chris Bell and got absolutely torched all night — and Bell was playing on a bum hamstring.

Offense

How is it that our massive offensive line still struggles to open holes?

Our offense — Dawson included — is severely handicapped by Mario and Mirabal’s OL/run game scheme. It’s predictable, boring, and lacks creativity. I said it in the game thread: we supposedly have the “best OL in the country,” but we rarely see the kind of running lanes other teams get (like Louisville did against us).

Our run schemes are too conservative, and that’s on Mario — because that’s how he wants the OL to operate.

This trickles down and makes both the OC and QB look bad. We become one-dimensional and predictable, which leads to the endless screens and conservative play-calling we see from Dawson.

And this makes Beck feel like he has to be Superman (which Cam Ward was last year). But a couple great pics by the defense because of the QB trying to do too much, all of a sudden has him looking like a dear in headlights, with no run game to fall back on

The Core Problem

What needs to change — though it likely never will — is Mario’s philosophy on the run game. We play “ground and pound” football, hoping to get 3–4 yards a play, rugby style.

But once teams get enough film on us, the good, well-coached ones figure us out.

And don’t get me started on Mario’s in-game management. Didn’t he hire people to help here. The timeout management was horrendous again tonight, especially in crunch time. Why didn’t we call our first timeout with 1:50 left when we got a first down near the 45-yard line? It was like Mario was content settling for a field goal

Once again — just too conservative. And I’m not sure that will ever change.

The Reality

Here’s where we’re at with Mario: there’s plenty of evidence now in year 4

He’s a great program builder — elite recruiter, culture guy — but a poor in-game and game-planning coach. And that matters. A lot.

He gets outcoached often.

For better or worse, we’re stuck with him. He’ll keep stacking enough talent to win 9–10 games a year, but will he ever get us to the promised land? It’s hard to see it. Over the course of a full season, Mario needs a lot to go his way to overcome his in-game shortcomings. We’ll have some nice wins, with spurts of dominance but will lack consistency to do it all season, not because of talent but because of our head coaches philosophy

Sorry, but it feels like we’re stuck in purgatory.

PS: Malachi Toney might be the only reason we have three of our wins right now. He’s special — legitimately one of the top five players in the country.
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Just need a bye week to work out these problems.
 
nvlahos said:
There were signs of this in our three “big wins.” But tonight’s game is the epitome of what a Mario Cristobal team is — stacked with talent, yet every game is closer than it should be. We should’ve beaten FSU and Notre Dame by 2–3 touchdowns and Florida by 3–4. Instead, we don’t finish games with aggression and dominance, play down to the competition, or lose games we shouldn’t.

You can point fingers at other factors (Beck, Dawson, etc.), but the main issue is Mario’s conservative approach and how often he gets outcoached once the game starts.

Defense

Why do scheme and coaching matter so much? Because Jeff Brohm just neutralized one of the most dominant players in the country, Rueben Bain.

Quick passes, tempo, off-tackle runs away from Bain, spreading the field — that’s preparation and coaching. Brohm made Bain a non-factor.

Our defense eventually adjusted and played okay overall (Scott and Poyser came to play), but schematically, it’s night and day between what Brohm does on offense and what Miami does.

PS: I don’t want to hear another word about OJ being a first-round talent. He went up against a real first-rounder in Chris Bell and got absolutely torched all night — and Bell was playing on a bum hamstring.

Offense

How is it that our massive offensive line still struggles to open holes?

Our offense — Dawson included — is severely handicapped by Mario and Mirabal’s OL/run game scheme. It’s predictable, boring, and lacks creativity. I said it in the game thread: we supposedly have the “best OL in the country,” but we rarely see the kind of running lanes other teams get (like Louisville did against us).

Our run schemes are too conservative, and that’s on Mario — because that’s how he wants the OL to operate.

This trickles down and makes both the OC and QB look bad. We become one-dimensional and predictable, which leads to the endless screens and conservative play-calling we see from Dawson.

And this makes Beck feel like he has to be Superman (which Cam Ward was last year). But a couple great pics by the defense because of the QB trying to do too much, all of a sudden has him looking like a dear in headlights, with no run game to fall back on

The Core Problem

What needs to change — though it likely never will — is Mario’s philosophy on the run game. We play “ground and pound” football, hoping to get 3–4 yards a play, rugby style.

But once teams get enough film on us, the good, well-coached ones figure us out.

And don’t get me started on Mario’s in-game management. Didn’t he hire people to help here. The timeout management was horrendous again tonight, especially in crunch time. Why didn’t we call our first timeout with 1:50 left when we got a first down near the 45-yard line? It was like Mario was content settling for a field goal

Once again — just too conservative. And I’m not sure that will ever change.

The Reality

Here’s where we’re at with Mario: there’s plenty of evidence now in year 4

He’s a great program builder — elite recruiter, culture guy — but a poor in-game and game-planning coach. And that matters. A lot.

He gets outcoached often.

For better or worse, we’re stuck with him. He’ll keep stacking enough talent to win 9–10 games a year, but will he ever get us to the promised land? It’s hard to see it. Over the course of a full season, Mario needs a lot to go his way to overcome his in-game shortcomings. We’ll have some nice wins, with spurts of dominance but will lack consistency to do it all season, not because of talent but because of our head coaches philosophy

Sorry, but it feels like we’re stuck in purgatory.

PS: Malachi Toney might be the only reason we have three of our wins right now. He’s special — legitimately one of the top five players in the country.
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Fair
 
gogeta4 said:
Just imagine this offense matched up against osu trying to run that duo all game omg...........We would get ****** killed lol.

Ive known this since oregon and succombed to this being our run scheme as long as the head man is here...which is why i dont even understand why he would even look at a rb recruit under 215 pounds.

PPL in the game day thread saying we should pay for Isaac Brown. Isaac Brown would never see the field here he would be CWH IN THIS RUN GAME. The proof for yall should of been BRASHARD SMITH leaving and doing what he did. I was in the game day threads those years screaming for him to get carries as a BACK. Goes into a more wide open offense and voila....
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This offense is the equivalent of what D'Onofrio/Golden's defense was here 👉🏼 A scheme that is not fitting for their main recruiting ground our program is in.

Watching Brashard Smith, CJ Johnson and Isaac Brown hit explosive plays at other schools while our RB's go for 4 yards & a cloud of dust is maddening.

Zone RB's and slot WR's grow on trees in South Florida. But let's run an offense that requires 220lb RB's and multiple TE's. 🙄 And let's run into stacked boxes.
 
Coach Macho said:
This offense is the equivalent of what D'Onofrio/Golden's defense was here 👉🏼 A scheme that is not fitting for their main recruiting ground our program is in.

Watching Brashard Smith, CJ Johnson and Isaac Brown hit explosive plays at other schools while our RB's go for 4 yards & a cloud of dust is maddening.

Zone RB's and slot WR's grow on trees in South Florida. But let's run an offense that requires 220lb RB's and multiple TE's. 🙄 And let's run into stacked boxes.
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100 Percent Agree GIF by Interstate Batteries
 
gogeta4 said:
Just imagine this offense matched up against osu trying to run that duo all game omg...........We would get ****** killed lol.

Ive known this since oregon and succombed to this being our run scheme as long as the head man is here...which is why i dont even understand why he would even look at a rb recruit under 215 pounds.

PPL in the game day thread saying we should pay for Isaac Brown. Isaac Brown would never see the field here he would be CWH IN THIS RUN GAME. The proof for yall should of been BRASHARD SMITH leaving and doing what he did. I was in the game day threads those years screaming for him to get carries as a BACK. Goes into a more wide open offense and voila....
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"run that duo all game omg"

It's insanity. You can run Duo but **** you dang there jmis no rule that stops you from running other things too. Lol
 
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gogeta4 said:
We have ppl here who think Isaiah Horton is a bum and wouldnt play here because of CJ Daniels and Jo Jo Trader. lol Dude probably if healthy goes for a td every game from here on out for Bama.

These dudes be having sour grapes something bad.
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Nobody said he was a bum - he's CJ Daniels 2.0 if he was here and wanted to leave so bye
 
ssvir said:
Nobody said he was a bum - he's CJ Daniels 2.0 if he was here and wanted to leave so bye
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THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY PPL CALL HIM EXACTLY THAT...AND SAY HE WOULD BE THIRD OR 4TH WR HERE. WHICH WAS ALL SOUR GRAPES....BECAUSE OTHER THAN MALI TONEY (WHO ISNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE HERE CURRENTLY) AND CJ DANIELS OUR WR GROUP ISNT LIKE THAT WHATSO EVER.
 
gogeta4 said:
THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY PPL CALL HIM EXACTLY THAT...AND SAY HE WOULD BE THIRD OR 4TH WR HERE. WHICH WAS ALL SOUR GRAPES....BECAUSE OTHER THAN MALI TONEY (WHO ISNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE HERE CURRENTLY) AND CJ DANIELS OUR WR GROUP ISNT LIKE THAT WHATSO EVER.
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I mean by definition that would make him 3rd though lol.. and the 'or 4th' would be Jojo... Which was always projection, and I think Jojo did have a higher ceiling.

Horton wasn't the difference in jack **** this year imo. Literally all we even did with him was run slants and the occasional deep pass that went incomplete last year. Sure he'd be better than Marrion...
 
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Brains said:
Am I new? Truly laughing at this. I probably attended more Canes games by the time I was 10 than you ever will.

Our QB lost us the game. That's what happened. Stop apologizing for it.
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You’re not crazy brother, the QB definitely lost us the game
 
gogeta4 said:
THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY PPL CALL HIM EXACTLY THAT...AND SAY HE WOULD BE THIRD OR 4TH WR HERE. WHICH WAS ALL SOUR GRAPES....BECAUSE OTHER THAN MALI TONEY (WHO ISNT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE HERE CURRENTLY) AND CJ DANIELS OUR WR GROUP ISNT LIKE THAT WHATSO EVER.
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People correctly said he would be the 3rd WR on Bama.
 
nvlahos said:
There were signs of this in our three “big wins.” But tonight’s game is the epitome of what a Mario Cristobal team is — stacked with talent, yet every game is closer than it should be. We should’ve beaten FSU and Notre Dame by 2–3 touchdowns and Florida by 3–4. Instead, we don’t finish games with aggression and dominance, play down to the competition, or lose games we shouldn’t.

You can point fingers at other factors (Beck, Dawson, etc.), but the main issue is Mario’s conservative approach and how often he gets outcoached once the game starts.

Defense

Why do scheme and coaching matter so much? Because Jeff Brohm just neutralized one of the most dominant players in the country, Rueben Bain.

Quick passes, tempo, off-tackle runs away from Bain, spreading the field — that’s preparation and coaching. Brohm made Bain a non-factor.

Our defense eventually adjusted and played okay overall (Scott and Poyser came to play), but schematically, it’s night and day between what Brohm does on offense and what Miami does.

PS: I don’t want to hear another word about OJ being a first-round talent. He went up against a real first-rounder in Chris Bell and got absolutely torched all night — and Bell was playing on a bum hamstring.

Offense

How is it that our massive offensive line still struggles to open holes?

Our offense — Dawson included — is severely handicapped by Mario and Mirabal’s OL/run game scheme. It’s predictable, boring, and lacks creativity. I said it in the game thread: we supposedly have the “best OL in the country,” but we rarely see the kind of running lanes other teams get (like Louisville did against us).

Our run schemes are too conservative, and that’s on Mario — because that’s how he wants the OL to operate.

This trickles down and makes both the OC and QB look bad. We become one-dimensional and predictable, which leads to the endless screens and conservative play-calling we see from Dawson.

And this makes Beck feel like he has to be Superman (which Cam Ward was last year). But a couple great pics by the defense because of the QB trying to do too much, all of a sudden has him looking like a dear in headlights, with no run game to fall back on

The Core Problem

What needs to change — though it likely never will — is Mario’s philosophy on the run game. We play “ground and pound” football, hoping to get 3–4 yards a play, rugby style.

But once teams get enough film on us, the good, well-coached ones figure us out.

And don’t get me started on Mario’s in-game management. Didn’t he hire people to help here. The timeout management was horrendous again tonight, especially in crunch time. Why didn’t we call our first timeout with 1:50 left when we got a first down near the 45-yard line? It was like Mario was content settling for a field goal

Once again — just too conservative. And I’m not sure that will ever change.

The Reality

Here’s where we’re at with Mario: there’s plenty of evidence now in year 4

He’s a great program builder — elite recruiter, culture guy — but a poor in-game and game-planning coach. And that matters. A lot.

He gets outcoached often.

For better or worse, we’re stuck with him. He’ll keep stacking enough talent to win 9–10 games a year, but will he ever get us to the promised land? It’s hard to see it. Over the course of a full season, Mario needs a lot to go his way to overcome his in-game shortcomings. We’ll have some nice wins, with spurts of dominance but will lack consistency to do it all season, not because of talent but because of our head coaches philosophy

Sorry, but it feels like we’re stuck in purgatory.

PS: Malachi Toney might be the only reason we have three of our wins right now. He’s special — legitimately one of the top five players in the country.
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Excellent post my friend!
 
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