Our Next HC Must Be Elite At Something. (Period)

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Our current and previous HC situations tells us that our next HC has to be elite at something. In the current college football world the top coaches are either elite recruiters, elite coordinators / X and O's coaches, or elite at both. If you look at all of our past HC's since Butch, non of them have been elite in any of the two categories ( a very small argument can be made for Randy being elite at X and O's, but I would say he is a notch below elite due to his stubbornness and laziness he displayed as a HC ).

Take a look at the HC's who have made the college football playoffs since its existence.

Nick Saban - obviously he is elite at both recruiting and X and O's
Dabo Swinney - obviously an elite recruiter but I would argue that he is not elite at X and O's having never been a coordinator. (How do you augment this by hiring elite coordinators at X and Os to surround yourself with)
Urban Meyer - Elite at both
Jimbo Fisher - Elite at both
Chip Kelly - Elite at X and O's (got the max out of his players at Oregon despite not being the top recruiting class)
Bob Stoops - Probably Elite at both, for sure elite at X and O's
Mark Dantonio - Elite at X and O's (influence heavily by Saban, so enough said)
Chris Petersen - Elite at X and O's
Kirby Smart - Elite at both
Lincoln Riley - Elite at X and O's and probably elite at both now for sure due to offensive production on the field and 2 consecutive Heisman Trophy winnners.
Brian Kelly - Maybe an outlier but I think his history shows from all the coaching stops shows he is elite or near elite at X and O's. Of course the university that he coaches at also has some prestige to add when it come to recruiting.


If you look at Richt he is neither elite at recruiting or X and O's as he has let the game pass him by with the later.

Our next HC must be elite at either recruiting or X and O's and smart of enough to balance out his staff to augment which ever area he may not be elite in.

So if we consider coaching candidates like Mario Cristobal for our next HC when the time comes, he is obviously an elite recruiter and would need to surround himself with elite X and O guys for that formula to work.

Or if we consider candidates like Manny Diaz or other candidates who have been elite coordinators or X and O guys on either side of the ball ,we need to pair them with great recruiters while they are hands on with what ever side of the ball they are elite on to ensure that we stay elite in the phase of the game.

Looking back at our 2016 coaching search that produced Mark Richt, our administration missed and had three candidates that were elite at one of the two in Butch, Mario, and Mullen.

We don't need to make the same mistake twice when the time comes.
 
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I disagree. Golden and Richt have 1 thing in common. They refuse to adapt to their players, and are stubborn/loyal to an extreme. Good coaches have a tendency to be stubborn but they refuse to change when things haven't worked for an extended period of time.

I think our next coach needs 3 true qualities to be successful here. That's the ability to properly adapt, to recruit, and to evaluate.
 
I disagree. Golden and Richt have 1 thing in common. They refuse to adapt to their players, and are stubborn/loyal to an extreme. Good coaches have a tendency to be stubborn but they refuse to change when things haven't worked for an extended period of time.

I think our next coach needs 3 true qualities to be successful here. That's the ability to properly adapt, to recruit, and to evaluate.

Stubbornness can be overlooked if you are elite at what you do. I’m not saying other qualities don’t matter but being elite in the 2 areas I listed along with supplementing your staff properly in other areas wins. The coaches above prove that.

I guarantee Chip Kelly and Jimbo Fisher are stubborn but they win and have won because they are elite at 1 of the 2.
 
Stubbornness can be overlooked if you are elite at what you do. I’m not saying other qualities don’t matter but being elite in the 2 areas I listed along with supplementing your staff properly in other areas wins. The coaches above prove that.

I guarantee Chip Kelly and Jimbo Fisher are stubborn but they win and have won because they are elite at 1 of the 2.
If you are elite at what you do, stubbornness isn't even noticed, because you are elite. Mark Richt, at this point in his career, just isn't very good, much less elite.
 
We are in a dreadful situation to climb out of it change must be made.fans are going have to face the fact when change does come the team and new hc probably won't have instant success.going to take some time for any decent hc to clean up this mess.
 
Should be all-in for Mario. Auto top 5 classes every year.

But can he actually coach or hire qualified guys? That's what I really need to know. Because if we get Mario with another shytshow of a staff, what does that really do for us?

I'm all in on Urban and hoping the University would finally do whatever it takes to bring in this elite monster.
 
But can he actually coach or hire qualified guys? That's what I really need to know. Because if we get Mario with another shytshow of a staff, what does that really do for us?

I'm all in on Urban and hoping the University would finally do whatever it takes to bring in this elite monster.

Well yeah Urban would obviously be choice 1 & it isn’t close but I’m talking about a realistic option. Miami will not hire Urban cuz of his rep & the $.
 
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Should be all-in for Mario. Auto top 5 classes every year.

He is elite at recruiting and that is a fact! If he comes here and balances his staff with elite coordinators / X and Os coaches and some others that can recruit, he can win here big time.
 
Well yeah Urban would obviously be choice 1 & it isn’t close but I’m talking about a realistic option. Miami will not hire Urban cuz of his rep & the $.

The overwheliming evidence says this is a true statement but at some point they need to figure out whether they want to play big boy football or continue to turn over head coaches every 4 years. With the ACCN money coming in I believe starting next year, there should be no excuses not to hire someone and pay them top dollar.
 
I like the guy, but I'm not prepared to label Manny an "elite" coordinator until he fields elite results consistently.
I'm not saying he can't or won't, just haven't seen it yet.
 
I like the guy, but I'm not prepared to label Manny an "elite" coordinator until he fields elite results consistently.
I'm not saying he can't or won't, just haven't seen it yet.

Just going by what his recent numbers say as a def coordinator and they scream elite. Of course some of his past def coordinator stints can be argued against that but recently the numbers are what they are #2 def in the nation. We wouldn’t argue against Don Brown’s numbers that say he is elite, so Manny has to be in that same company whether we like it or not.
 
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But can he actually coach or hire qualified guys? That's what I really need to know. Because if we get Mario with another shytshow of a staff, what does that really do for us?

I'm all in on Urban and hoping the University would finally do whatever it takes to bring in this elite monster.
Mario's past hires include Todd Orlando, Geoff Collins, Alex Mirabal, James Coley, Satterfield, Frank Ponce. The guy can hire he has a great staff at Oregon and he will play for a PAC 12 championship within the next two years.
 
If he never played here, nobody would being his name up.

Maybe, Maybe not but that is part of the built in advantage he knows what winning is suppose to look like here with the some of the challenges we face as a small private university and a major cosmopolitan city with tons of competition for entertainment.

Regardless of him playing here,one thing is for sure he can recruit at an elite level as a HC and that is a valuable commodity no matter how you look at it. That makes him a candidate for the Dabo model in becoming a top notch coach and fielding playoff caliber teams.
 
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