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The Brits just cleaned out Vegas with a bunch of small bets at anywhere from 8-1 to 25-1 odds.
The rematch was preplanned for the UK where AJ gets the belts back.
Plus DAZN will triple its subscriptions from Mexican fans (who actually pay for fights) via Ruiz.
This fight costed Wilder, Fury & Ortiz major paydays as all of these fights have lost time and value.

They have been communicating this ‘upset’ via the media for at least 4 weeks.
The sun never sets on the British Empire, chess not checkers.
 
UMovement said:
The Brits just cleaned out Vegas with a bunch of small bets at anywhere from 8-1 to 25-1 odds.
The rematch was preplanned for the UK where AJ gets the belts back.
Plus DAZN will triple its subscriptions from Mexican fans (who actually pay for fights) via Ruiz.
This fight costed Wilder, Fury & Ortiz major paydays as all of these fights have lost time and value.

They have been communicating this ‘upset’ via the media for at least 4 weeks.
The sun never sets on the British Empire, chess not checkers.
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Oh god here we go

Before I assume ARE U SAYING IT WAS FIXED?
 
UMovement said:
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Dog Im not reading fried **** if it says its a fix they wont know this is like reading that magazine in Men in black 1, everything is said to be fake on the web u can find anything that fits a motive for people. AJ makes more fuqin money with Wilder, and the mexicans always support there fighters this wasnt fixed if u know boxing and use your eye balls. Those equilibrium punches fuq u up if u never got hit there then u wont know, i have been hit there and when u get hit like that u lose your legs like AJ. AJ cant act like hes hurt................lol i cant even man. Fans of boxing that scream fixed dont know the sport.......if u want to say 1 judge out of three got paid then I can sit here and say u have a decent argument like the judge Canelo had vs Floyd. But fighters? no way thats super rare

This is like reading earth is flat people, the internet has a ton of these weird fuqin things weak minded people believe instantly.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Dog Im not reading fried **** if it says its a fix they wont know this is like reading that magazine in Men in black 1, everything is said to be fake on the web u can find anything that fits a motive for people. AJ makes more fuqin money with Wilder, and the mexicans always support there fighters this wasnt fixed if u know boxing and use your eye balls. Those equilibrium punches fuq u up if u never got hit there then u wont know, i have been hit there and when u get hit like that u lose your legs like AJ. AJ cant act like hes hurt................lol i cant even man. Fans of boxing that scream fixed dont know the sport.......if u want to say 1 judge out of three got paid then I can sit here and say u have a decent argument like the judge Canelo had vs Floyd. But fighters? no way thats super rare

This is like reading earth is flat people, the internet has a ton of these weird fuqin things weak minded people believe instantly.
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I was just phvkin with y’all with the numerology cause I knew this was headed for conspiracy land.
But it’s really not that deep, Ruiz is a bad match up for AJ and they knew it. Fat boy is like 100-5 in Ammys man.
Not only does he excel fighting taller guys, he actually tries to hit you with rabbit punches and has some weird angles.
AJ actually has a good chin but unfortunately his dome is vulnerable.
Every time he’s been hurt, it’s been a ‘top,/back/side of the head’ type blow;
Maybe he has equilibrium issues - I got a LB who got wobbly from an ear infection, seriously.

I’m just saying the Brits were in a win-win, they bet Ruiz, got paid off AJ
And their about to come up off rematches and trying to market AJ as an Ali type.
But as far as fixes go, I will say that AJ did not seem himself from the intro,
he looked drugged or sick, he was breathing heavy in round 1. IDK but something wasn’t right with him.

Whether it was the stars or a better fight plan, it was Andy’s night, dude took some monster shots and fired back.
Props to the Destroyer - made history.
 
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UMovement said:
I was just phvkin with y’all with the numerology cause I knew this was headed for conspiracy land.
But it’s really not that deep, Ruiz is a bad match up for AJ and they knew it. Fat boy is like 100-5 in Ammys man.
Not only does he excel fighting taller guys, he actually tries to hit you with rabbit punches and has some weird angles.
AJ actually has a good chin but unfortunately his dome is vulnerable.
Every time he’s been hurt, it’s been a ‘top,/back/side of the head’ type blow;
Maybe he has equilibrium issues - I got a LB who got wobbly from an ear infection, seriously.

I’m just saying the Brits were in a win-win, they bet Ruiz, got paid off AJ
And their about to come up off rematches and trying to market AJ as an Ali type.
But as far as fixes go, I will say that AJ did not seem himself from the intro,
he looked drugged or sick, he was breathing heavy in round 1. IDK but something wasn’t right with him.

Whether it was the stars or a better fight plan, it was Andy’s night, dude took some monster shots and fired back.
Props to the Destroyer - made history.
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I tell u what they didnt want AJ to lose cause a Wilder vs AJ was a big money fight just because its had a hype train behind it for about 4-5 years, the mega fight was and still would be wilder vs aj
 
Dwinstitles said:
Dog Im not reading fried **** if it says its a fix they wont know this is like reading that magazine in Men in black 1, everything is said to be fake on the web u can find anything that fits a motive for people. AJ makes more fuqin money with Wilder, and the mexicans always support there fighters this wasnt fixed if u know boxing and use your eye balls. Those equilibrium punches fuq u up if u never got hit there then u wont know, i have been hit there and when u get hit like that u lose your legs like AJ. AJ cant act like hes hurt................lol i cant even man. Fans of boxing that scream fixed dont know the sport.......if u want to say 1 judge out of three got paid then I can sit here and say u have a decent argument like the judge Canelo had vs Floyd. But fighters? no way thats super rare

This is like reading earth is flat people, the internet has a ton of these weird fuqin things weak minded people believe instantly.
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I agree but Wilder was and is never making this fight. DW is a much better match for AJ.
AJ won’t have to lean in too much or overextend his punches
And DW is open to counters (especially a left hook) and has a suspect chin.
Wilder’s team knows this is a bad match up just like AJ’s people knew Ruiz was/is a tough style for him.
But who really takes high risk, high reward fights? Not Wilder’s modus operandi.

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UMovement said:
I agree but Wilder was and is never making this fight. DW is a much better match for AJ.
AJ won’t have to lean in too much or overextend his punches
And DW is open to counters (especially a left hook) and has a suspect chin.
Wilder’s team knows this is a bad match up just like AJ’s people knew Ruiz was/is a tough style for him.
But who really takes high risk, high reward fights? Not Wilder’s modus operandi.

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suspect chin? Dude never quits and has tons more stamina then AJ and knows how to manage it better. Wilder got blasted by Ortiz who probably hits just as hard as Ruiz and survived. AJ been ducking Wilder forever lol......Wilders resume is way better then Ajs.............AJ finally fought someone with a pulse and got obliterated

What do u guys watch?

Wilders boxing skill gets slept on, the only time he throws technique out the window is when he gets someone hurt. Thats the only time a fighter will catch him if they can withstand a punch. Can Wilder be beaten? yes............but that right hand is deadly especially to guys like AJ that can barely take a punch. His right hand is probably right now the best punch in boxing in terms of raw power he hits dudes like if he got Thanos glove on.
 
I can’t give Wilder the better resume man, I mean AJ basically fought better comp in half the time.
DW literally fought 1 top 10 guy before he got to Ortiz, and Fury was outta the sport sniffing coke for years.

There’s not a huge difference but I would give AJ the edge, but now he has a loss so it doesn’t matter.
I’ve seen DW KO’d and stunned several times, his stamina has gotten a little better but really drops off after round 4.
I thought he lost the Fury fight and got a lot of help vs Luis but he did get him outta there.
Guys look pretty even, I hope the fight gets made but I’m not confident.

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UMovement said:
I can’t give Wilder the better resume man, I mean AJ basically fought better comp in half the time.
DW literally fought 1 top 10 guy before he got to Ortiz, and Fury was outta the sport sniffing coke for years.

There’s not a huge difference but I would give AJ the edge, but now he has a loss so it doesn’t matter.
I’ve seen DW KO’d and stunned several times, his stamina has gotten a little better but really drops off after round 4.
I thought he lost the Fury fight and got a lot of help vs Luis but he did get him outta there.
Guys look pretty even, I hope the fight gets made but I’m not confident.

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I agree i thought Fury won as well and got robbed..........im just going by matchup. I just think Wilder can get up and take it from AJ but if DW connects its light out for AJ he has no chin and was hurt in like 4-5 fights and his stamina is awful. I seen DW tired and use his legs to recover but when AJ gets tired its like he doesnt know what to do, the thought of being tired is like he wants to get out of there.
 
Dwinstitles said:
suspect chin? Dude never quits and has tons more stamina then AJ and knows how to manage it better. Wilder got blasted by Ortiz who probably hits just as hard as Ruiz and survived. AJ been ducking Wilder forever lol......Wilders resume is way better then Ajs.............AJ finally fought someone with a pulse and got obliterated

What do u guys watch?

Wilders boxing skill gets slept on, the only time he throws technique out the window is when he gets someone hurt. Thats the only time a fighter will catch him if they can withstand a punch. Can Wilder be beaten? yes............but that right hand is deadly especially to guys like AJ that can barely take a punch. His right hand is probably right now the best punch in boxing in terms of raw power he hits dudes like if he got Thanos glove on.
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Wilder deployed zero technique vs Fury from the opening bell. Basically nothing but haymakers the entire fight. It had nothing to do with Fury being hurt.
 
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Wilder deployed zero technique vs Fury from the opening bell. Basically nothing but haymakers the entire fight. It had nothing to do with Fury being hurt.
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Fury is a superior boxer then DW especially at avoiding shots, hes probably the only HW that can avoid Wilders shot and he got caught as well. Even though I thought Fury won that fight..........Wilder against anyone else he will catch them even if his skill set is trash
 
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Dwinstitles said:
o god stop


excuses.........his trainer must be Al Golden
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He didn’t make any excuses, his people are trying to cover this up because they don’t want people to know he got KOd and concussed a week before the fight.
I’m not making excuses, it just explains a lot based on the money moves and the timing of everything, including a lack of marketing.
 
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