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LustNCanes said:
Mike Tyson was straight fury, but he had defense( in the 80's early 90's) he would bob and weave your *** to death and THEN that DEATH punch would come in, like a barrage of bullets. BOOM, the next thing you remember ( while laying on the canvas) "did I take the laundry out of the washer".!! LOL...

I got Tyson, also. wilder is undisciplined and he's really feeling himself too much,....PLUS HE'S FROM BAGA, FVCK BAGA PEOPLE..... EXCEPT,,,....CANES FANS FROM THERE..HAHA
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Man, i miss the days of watching Tyson on HBO in my living room walk out in black shorts, black shoes, no frills, and just murder dudes.

To date seeing him get KO'd by Buster Douglas was probably the most shocking moment I've ever experienced in any sport.
 
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Wilder for the TKO in the 10th.

It should be Anthony Joshua's scary *** fighting Wilder, but all he ever does is fight nursery home bums on the verge of retirement.

4 out of Joshua's last 5 fights have been against fighters all older than 35.
 
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Liberty City El said:
Wilder for the TKO in the 10th.

It should be Anthony Joshua's scary *** fighting Wilder, but all he ever does is fight nursery home bums on the Bebe of retirement.

4 out of Joshua's last 5 fights have been against fighters all older than 35.
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YO EL, what's wrong with being a fighter OVER the age of 35!!!! Hmmm!

Meet me in the blue lot!!! JK!:giggle:
 
For_The_U said:
Man, i miss the days of watching Tyson on HBO in my living room walk out in black shorts, black shoes, no frills, and just murder dudes.

To date seeing him get KO'd by Buster Douglas was probably the most shocking moment I've ever experienced in any sport.
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Yeah, I agree the Buster fight bothers me until this day, but Tyson was sniffing his *** off the night before, and banging all those japanese chicks!
Dude how many nuts can you bust and not be weak! LOL, he's lucky he lasted that long in the fight... I think he was still coked up...something ol' rick can use, NOW!!
 
LustNCanes said:
YO EL, what's wrong with being a fighter OVER the age of 35!!!! Hmmm!

Meet me in the blue lot!!! JK!:giggle:
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Lol!

Nothing wrong with getting older, it's just that Anthony Joshua is supposed to be the best HW but is scared to actually fight a real HW.

I don't think Wilder is all that great, but I at least give him credit for not being scared to fight & willing to put it all on the line. AJ holds 3 out 4 major HW title belts (IBF, WBA, WBO) & doesn't want to fight anyone.
 
nystateofmind said:
Very muscular.

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He has put on even more muscle as of recent.

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For_The_U said:
You are absolutely right about his wild right hand haymakers. They lay dudes out but are a spit in the face to boxing fundamentals and leave him dangerously open.
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Exactly. If he was fighting in any other HW era he would have got starched a long time ago. He is lucky he is fighting shorter and less talented fighters than himself. The fact that no fighter so far has been able to capitalize on his god awful technique really shows how terrible the HW division currently is.

That said we may not agree on how the HC situation was handled, but I am glad we agree on boxing. lol.
 
LustNCanes said:
Yeah, I agree the Buster fight bothers me until this day, but Tyson was sniffing his *** off the night before, and banging all those japanese chicks!
Dude how many nuts can you bust and not be weak! LOL, he's lucky he lasted that long in the fight... I think he was still coked up...something ol' rick can use, NOW!!
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Lol! No doubt he completely slacked off in prep for that one. He's admitted to that many times before.

That was the fight that shocked the world. Watching it live was the definition of jaw dropping.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Exactly. If he was fighting in any other HW era he would have got starched a long time ago. He is lucky he is fighting shorter and less talented fighters than himself. The fact that no fighter so far has been able to capitalize on his god awful technique really shows how terrible the HW division currently is.

That said we may not agree on how the HC situation was handled, but I am glad we agree on boxing. lol.
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Haha absolutely, man.

And your last comment of that first paragraph couldn't be more spot on. This era (****, the last 20 years it seems) have been absolutely dreadful in the HW division. You're **** right that the fact a dude who has awful technique (really, no technique) is able to go 40-0 and knock out everyone he faced is an embarrassing testament to that.
 
For_The_U said:
Haha absolutely, man.

And your last comment of that first paragraph couldn't be more spot on. This era (****, the last 20 years it seems) have been absolutely dreadful in the HW division. You're **** right that the fact a dude who has awful technique (really, no technique) is able to go 40-0 and knock out everyone he faced is an embarrassing testament to that.
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Yup. Straight facts being spoken. I think it has to do with most of the tall and/or big americans start playing Basketball or Football now instead of joining a boxing gym. So the talent pool has gotten a lot thinner. Imagine having guys like JJ Watt, Aaron donald, Fletcher COx, Gerald McCoy, or Allen Bailey training their whole life to be boxers. They would massacre Deontay.

Exactly it is an embarrassment to the sport really. No other fighter in the history of the sport has fought more tomato cans in a row than Wilder, not even close . It was unbelievable the guy kept fighting them until Stiverne went the distance. If he KOd him I guarantee to this day. He would still be padding his record with club fighters with a journeyman here or there.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Wilder has been rocked at least 5 times in his career filled with fighting tomato cans. His chin is very suspect. Ortiz is also one of the slowest boxers in the world. I never said Tyson is going to Ko him with one shot, but once he hurts Wilder he will not let up like the other bums that hurt Wilder.

I have watched every Wilder fight I have been able to find footage of. That is a very bad tactic to use and Fury could feign being hurt or tired to lure Wilder into doing that ridiculous technique to open him up. Even his regular jab and cross loop and his hooks you can see from a mile away. Yes his straight right is one of HIS most polished punches, but it is still garbage.

As stated before. I could see Fury losing because he is not that great and he has not looked good since his hiatus, but I still would bet on Fury.
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I still wouldn't call Wilder's chin suspect the ortiz fight proved its at the very least solid. Also I think you're discounting advantages Wilder has in overall Explosiveness/athleticism and cardio. The way I see fury winning this is a UD and I dont believe he has the cardio to last that long if he gets even a lil bit tired Wilder will be able to tee off like he wants to. I could see Fury being up on the cards but I believe the end result will be Wilder by Knockout.
 
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CaneandAbel said:
I still wouldn't call Wilder's chin suspect the ortiz fight proved its at the very least solid. Also I think you're discounting advantages Wilder has in overall Explosiveness/athleticism and cardio. The way I see fury winning this is a UD and I dont believe he has the cardio to last that long if he gets even a lil bit tired Wilder will be able to tee off like he wants to. I could see Fury being up on the cards but I believe the end result will be Wilder by Knockout.
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Not really. Being able to beat a power puncher does not mean your chin is good. It just means he didn't get hit clean. If those bums can rock Wilder....his chin is suspect.

Furys cardio used to be very good. If he comes into this fight in shape he will have an advantage in that regard. Also, wilder is really not that athletic. When have you seen him do something athletic besides sprinting across the ring windmilling against hurt bums?
 
Dwinstitles said:
Bruh i couldnt even watch the second all access cause he was at bama talking to the players. Thats how much i dislike them
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And that racist *** school won't even let him fight on their campus! He has to fight in Birmingham because they don't want nuthin to take the attention of their cheatin *** football program, which is why they despise the idea of pro sports in Alabama!
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Yup. Straight facts being spoken. I think it has to do with most of the tall and/or big americans start playing Basketball or Football now instead of joining a boxing gym. So the talent pool has gotten a lot thinner. Imagine having guys like JJ Watt, Aaron donald, Fletcher COx, Gerald McCoy, or Allen Bailey training their whole life to be boxers. They would massacre Deontay.

Exactly it is an embarrassment to the sport really. No other fighter in the history of the sport has fought more tomato cans in a row than Wilder, not even close . It was unbelievable the guy kept fighting them until Stiverne went the distance. If he KOd him I guarantee to this day. He would still be padding his record with club fighters with a journeyman here or there.
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That right hand is deadly

If and when he lands it, fight is over
 
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