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Entertaining fight, but this really shows the weakness of the HW division right now. Prime Klitschko - either one - would smoke both of these guys.
 
Fury didn't do enough to outright win the fight imo, all he really did was evade, jab & clinch up.

He gave Wilder a nice lil shiner above his eye, but other than that no real significant damage.

When you're the challenger you have to beat the champ convincingly & Wilder scoring 2 big knockdowns makes the fight even because Fury hadn't done anything prior that would overwhelmingly sway it in his favor even with the knockdowns.
 
Lennox just said "I thought Deontay boxed terrible". You and I were just talking about his lack of technique and ridiculous right hand haymakers a few days ago, OGH. I thought he threw them even more wildly and ridiculous tonight than he ever had before. He looked like a mess out there.
 
of course neither guy is as skilled but it reminds me of some of the earlier marquez vs pacquiao fights where marquez would outbox him but pacquiao would manage to knock him down and get up on points, i thought the announcers were giving fury way too much credit as if he got robbed it was close and when you get knocked down you will be vulnerable on the cards
 
That 12 th round knockdown changed the game the Mexican judge was like”perfect” the fix is in. LOL
 
For_The_U said:
No doubt. And it'll be a mega fight for sure.

I don't see how one judge could have had it 4 rounds to Wilder. Even with the knock down points, how is that possible?!? I also thought the first knock down was as much a slip as a knock down.

Will say I was impressed Wilder was able to land the money shot in the 12th do. I didn't think he was going to do it.
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Me too. I was SHOCKED he landed that big blow in the 12th. I respect him a bit more for that, but that being said he still didn't win 4 rounds. Even the slip round. Since tyson was dominating the rest of the round the judge could still give the round a tie.
 
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Dr.L.ThugU said:
Bwahahahaha doing the chicken squawking shlt .

I don't know how he got up in the 12th .

Fury was robbed.
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Agree highway robbery. The chicken **** had me dying though lmao. One of the funniest post fight things I have ever seen. I did not expect it either. He is a legend and what the sport needs after Mayweather retired.

I can't believe he got back up either. Then he started dancing around. Then he started going after Wilder and wilder started clinching. That was insane lmao.
 
This is the problem I have seen in the past few years...the broadcast team gets in heavy on someone in the early rounds and as most fights go, the early rounds are incredibly razor thin rounds during the feel out period. So you've got a fight narrative the whole way through saying someone is up BIG in a fight and thats simply not true and that narrative shapes fans opinion of the decision. Has happened a lot in these big fights of recent vintage.

Not saying this was the right decision here, but it seems like another fight where the above is what happened.
 
Liberty City El said:
Fury didn't do enough to outright win the fight imo, all he really did was evade, jab & clinch up.

He gave Wilder a nice lil shiner above his eye, but other than that no real significant damage.

When you're the challenger you have to beat the champ convincingly & Wilder scoring 2 big knockdowns makes the fight even because Fury hadn't done anything prior that would overwhelmingly sway it in his favor even with the knockdowns.
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Yo EL, for real?? If Mayweather can do it why can’t Fury??(clinching)
He whooped bagas ***, and told him to his face ... he knows I won the fight!
 
For_The_U said:
Lennox just said "I thought Deontay boxed terrible". You and I were just talking about his lack of technique and ridiculous right hand haymakers a few days ago, OGH. I thought he threw them even more wildly and ridiculous tonight than he ever had before. He looked like a mess out there.
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Yup exactly. He was going hunting for that haymaker after liek round 4 when it was clear he was getting out boxed big time. He knew his only chance was 1 big KO shot. Fury must have gotten a little ****y in the final round to fall for it because that shot really should not have connected on him. It was very telegraphed and he had been throwing the same shot all night.

I think with the rematch Tyson will be more prepared and will smoke him. Deontay is not going to get much better than this. Tyson still is shaking off the rust a bit and the 12th round was proof of that.
 
Just saw the late knockdown replay a few times. Holy sh-t, man! That was an extraordinary moment there. That combo Wilder landed was nasty and to do that with your back against the wall at that moment was incredible. Fury was 100% out cold on his back, and then somehow like nothing I've ever seen before he just pops up and is able to go again. I'm not sure there's ever been too many boxers who get up from that. Wow, that was something.
 
BoxingRobes said:
This is the problem I have seen in the past few years...the broadcast team gets in heavy on someone in the early rounds and as most fights go, the early rounds are incredibly razor thin rounds during the feel out period. So you've got a fight narrative the whole way through saying someone is up BIG in a fight and thats simply not true and that narrative shapes fans opinion of the decision. Has happened a lot in these big fights of recent vintage.

Not saying this was the right decision here, but it seems like another fight where the above is what happened.
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exactly i thought the entire crew went all in for fury early on even the one announcer was saying how mental health was a big issue for him so he was obviously pulling for fury being able to overcome that. the HBO team was really bad about doing that with guys like jermain taylor too way back when
 
Liberty City El said:
Fury didn't do enough to outright win the fight imo, all he really did was evade, jab & clinch up.

He gave Wilder a nice lil shiner above his eye, but other than that no real significant damage.

When you're the challenger you have to beat the champ convincingly & Wilder scoring 2 big knockdowns makes the fight even because Fury hadn't done anything prior that would overwhelmingly sway it in his favor even with the knockdowns.
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That is one of those unsaid BS rules that people take as fact. The only time that rule applies is if the current champ is a big time draw and the challenger is going to lose PPV or HBO money if he becomes the champ.
 
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For_The_U said:
Just saw the late knockdown replay a few times. Holy sh-t, man! That was an extraordinary moment there. That combo Wilder landed was nasty and to do that with your back against the wall at that moment was incredible. Fury was 100% out cold on his back, and then somehow like nothing I've ever seen before he just pops up and is able to go again. I'm not sure there's ever been too many boxers who get up from that. Wow, that was something.
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Agreed the combo was BRUTAL. I have been watching boxing since the early 90s and I can't remember ever seeing someone get up from a legit KO like that. EVER. Let alone get back up and start boxing like it never happened 30 seconds later lol.
 
LustNCanes said:
Yo EL, for real?? If Mayweather can do it why can’t Fury??(clinching)
He whooped bagas ***, and told him to his face ... he knows I won the fight!
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He definitely didn't whoop his ***, he just out scored him lol

I think Wilder got the 2nd, 9th, 11th & 12th. I don't think it was a robbery, because there wasn't really a dominant Fury round. Wilder put him on his *** when he was completely tired while also weighing a full 44 pounds less than Fury.

I'm not saying Wilder won hands down, I'm saying it makes sense for the draw because Fury didn't do anything to definitively beat Wilder.
 
58straight said:
exactly i thought the entire crew went all in for fury early on even the one announcer was saying how mental health was a big issue for him so he was obviously pulling for fury being able to overcome that. the HBO team was really bad about doing that with guys like jermain taylor too way back when
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I was watching a few streams - bounced back and forth. They both cut out at the end of 5 and a minute into 6. When they came back, the British broadcast was talking like Fury was up 4-1...which I thought was nuts and clearly bias. Watching without commentary for the early rounds, I thought Wilder was up 3-2 with them all being pretty close rounds.

Then I go over to the Mauro broadcast and they, too, were going crazy saying Fury was up crazy rounds. Fury was rattling off mid-round win after win, but even after the first knockdown 10-8 round for Wilder, I thought we were real close. Neither guy was really controlling rounds. Wilder was erratic and Fury wasn't really doing any damage.

I don't see any real scenario where Wilder won the fight by the significant margin the one judge had it as, but feel the draw was very fair.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Let alone get back up and start boxing like it never happened 30 seconds later lol.
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LOL! Exactly, man. In that slow mo replay you can tell he is completely out when he first hits the canvas. I think he was out for about 4-5 full seconds actually. Then it's like the lights just snapped back on when ref his about the 6 count and he realized "sh-t, I better get up!" lol and no sh-it he just DOES! and like you said, not only gets up, but is immediately back to normal, even clowning around and ****. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before. Mad respect earned for Fury tonight.
 
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