OT: The NCAA is f#cked up

[iLoveTDs]

Amazing how dense certain people are.

“its socialism! its terrible”

This is collegiate sports. When one team outspends everyone else and has 40 coaches, and then they win a title every year, it kills the sport.

Put a hard cap on overall staff salaries. This would make the sport itself more compelling.

Nobody watches football on Saturdays and Sundays as part of some social experiment to promote capitalism OR socialism. I care about whats good for the game, not fighting the goddam reds like its 1955.

There are already rules in place to stop Alabama from cheating and having 40 coaches, as you say.

The rules aren’t enforced. A hard cap does nothing to change that fact.

Anyone who supports a cap on someone’s salary is ignorant af.

Universities have been in a massive bubble for quite some time now - and it isn’t just sports.

It will end at some point, and when it does you will see colleges all across the country start to cut unnecessary costs (liberal arts programs, gender studies, athletic budgets, etc). If saban’s salary is inflated then Alabama will be forced to make the adjustment (or let boosters make up the difference).

 

[Lokest]

He’s paid what the market says he’s worth.

I’m not a fan of the guy, but lol @ at a hard cap on coaches salaries.

Sounding like a socialist.

I mean it gets kind of funny talking about the market considering these are state employees.

 

[boxtonenyc]

Alabama has a larger support staff than anyone in the country. Did you watch the playoffs? How many times did they show their booths and comment on how Alabama has twice the people even than UGA.

Putting a cap on how much teams can spend on coaching staffs would dramatically improve the competitiveness of the sport. It would be a more enjoyable experience for everyone. it also would not destroy the fabric of our country.

 

[iLoveTDs]

Alabama has a larger support staff than anyone in the country. Did you watch the playoffs? How many times did they show their booths and comment on how Alabama has twice the people even than UGA.

Putting a cap on how much teams can spend on coaching staffs would dramatically improve the competitiveness of the sport. It would be a more enjoyable experience for everyone. it also would not destroy the fabric of our country.

The fabric of our country has been destroyed by coaching salaries? That’s rich (no pun intended).

As I pointed out above, there are already rules on the books to stop the cheating that exists today.

No one in the SEC follows those rules because the NCAA does not enforce them. You don’t need a salary cap for coaches, you need leadership at the top to enforce rules that they themselves wrote.

If you put a salary cap on coaches, boosters would just pay them behind closed doors. (booster donations and revenues from football make up the majority of Saban’s salary as it is)

The only thing that will reign in these high college coaching salaries is what I said – the college tuition bubble has to burst, or fans have to stop tuning in.

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

The fabric of our country has been destroyed by coaching salaries? That’s rich (no pun intended).

As I pointed out above, there are already rules on the books to stop the cheating that exists today.

No one in the SEC follows those rules because the NCAA does not enforce them. You don’t need a salary cap for coaches, you need leadership at the top to enforce rules that they themselves wrote.

If you put a salary cap on coaches, boosters would just pay them behind closed doors. (booster donations and revenues from football make up the majority of Saban’s salary as it is)

The only thing that will reign in these high college coaching salaries is what I said – the college tuition bubble has to burst, or fans have to stop tuning in.

The thing that will reign in the salaries more than anything is stripping the farcical non profit booster clubs that exist primarily to enrich coaches of their tax exempt status. The rich boosters who donate to the Alabama football glee club didn't get rich by being dumb and wasting money. If they don't get the tax exemption, they won't donate, so salaries will go down.

Second, the cap on spending levels the playing field, which means more teams are competing for a national championship, which means higher revenue. In other words, a cap would maximize profits (which is kinda the opposite of socialism).

You want to talk socialism, let's talk about taxpayer funded state schools. The state funded public schools are heavily subsidized and do not bear the true costs of running an athletic program.

The University of Miami pays for its athletic program out of its own revenues. We pay to lease a stadium. We pay the cost for extra police on game day. ****, we pay our own water and light bill. The state schools pay zero of these costs. They are given stadiums, operating funds, and even the cops are free (the state and county pays these costs for the school). Oh, and Saban also gets a giant pension as a state employee once he retires, and if he lists a child as a non spouse beneficiary, the child can receive payments until he or she dies (the taxpayers of Alabama could conceivably be paying his retirement of roughly $175,000 per year for the next 60-70 years).

We are talking tens of millions of dollars that state schools don't have to pay that private universities do. If the state schools had to pay for their own athletic programs like Miami and USC, you can be **** sure that they'd be cutting back on the number of assistants to the assistant coaches and the construction of football facilities with waterslides.

 

[iLoveTDs]

The thing that will reign in the salaries more than anything is stripping the farcical non profit booster clubs that exist primarily to enrich coaches of their tax exempt status. The rich boosters who donate to the Alabama football glee club didn't get rich by being dumb and wasting money. If they don't get the tax exemption, they won't donate, so salaries will go down.

Second, the cap on spending levels the playing field, which means more teams are competing for a national championship, which means higher revenue. In other words, a cap would maximize profits (which is kinda the opposite of socialism).

You want to talk socialism, let's talk about taxpayer funded state schools. The state funded public schools are heavily subsidized and do not bear the true costs of running an athletic program.

The University of Miami pays for its athletic program out of its own revenues. We pay to lease a stadium. We pay the cost for extra police on game day. ****, we pay our own water and light bill. The state schools pay zero of these costs. They are given stadiums, operating funds, and even the cops are free (the state and county pays these costs for the school). Oh, and Saban also gets a giant pension as a state employee once he retires, and if he lists a child as a non spouse beneficiary, the child can receive payments until he or she dies (the taxpayers of Alabama could conceivably be paying his retirement of roughly $175,000 per year for the next 60-70 years).

We are talking tens of millions of dollars that state schools don't have to pay that private universities do. If the state schools had to pay for their own athletic programs like Miami and USC, you can be **** sure that they'd be cutting back on the number of assistants to the assistant coaches and the construction of football facilities with waterslides.

There are too many incorrect statements in your post above for me to waste my time.

You’re pretty dense if you’re in favor of a group of beurocrats/NCAA executives (who they themselves make millions of dollars off the sport) dictating someone else’s salary.

I don’t think you get it.

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

Yes, how dare a regulating body regulate salaries. What do they think they are, some kind of regulators?

Secondly, if you remove the non profit status, the salaries will stop rising. Is that some kinda leftist, anti capitalist opinion? Let's see what one of the most ardent free market Republican politicians has to say about it.

College sports’ big lie: These universities are nonprofits? - The Boston Globe

I'm a conservative. It p#sses me off when powerful institutions buy themselves privileges like bullsh#t tax exemptions at the expense of regular taxpayers (especially since most of these schools have essentially become nothing more neo-Marxist propagandists) . That needs to stop.

 

[BoxingRobes]

When you try and mix socialist and capitalist ideas, of course **** is fvcked up and doesn't make any sense. Throw in government interference in economic practices and it complicates the matters worse.