By the time this season's over Tua not going to be in the discussion of #1 overall pick - he doesn't make Alabama, Alabama makes him
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Agreed. This is a 1-31 to 0-32 two year slog. Next year needs to be about getting offensive linemen, a prime skill position player, and an edge rusher. But Miami has to continue to lose in 2020. The team needs to get Lawrence, and have some sort of foundation around him when they do.
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It was quite the opposite when he came in at halftime and won them the NC two years ago.
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Nope. He wont hold up and will be an INT machine at the next level.
Would rather load up on the elite Tackles that'll be in the draft and grab a guy like Love in the 20s.
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yea because they had a wr at qb...and b4 that wr they had a rb galivanting as a qb. Any bama qb able to complete a 10 yd pass consistently was gonna get hyped.
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I just want the best QB for us. Right now Tua is projected to go #1 overall by most scouts. I don't want us to get cute and overthink it. If there's another QB who is in the conversation, fine, but I do not want to see a repeat of our retarded decision to take an OL #1 (Jake Long) instead of a QB.
I think Fromm will be good and I am not at all impressed by Herbert. But the fact Fromm is projected mid/late 1st round makes me think they're going another direction. Lawrence is better than Tua, but a 2-year tank job is almost impossible to execute. If we somehow land the 2nd overall pick in 2021 we aren't getting him. Whoever lands that top pick isn't trading down, so I think we have to take a QB next year. Just a question of who it will be.
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Idk about this one bruh. It ain't just hype with Tua; he has very little flaws. I will say that offense is tailor-made for him and I'm very jealous with the way they get the ball to their receivers.
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We just spent a 2nd on Rosen. Getting the best qb available in the draft ...wont mean much when you cant protect him...also This is game 2 of Tua's 2nd season starting guys/scouts may need to pipe down..considering dude is throwing 5 yd passes that his receivers take for 80.
I just want to improve the talent on the team in the draft...Based off of this game and what i saw in preseason...there are holes all over the place. If they are going qb in the 1st round he better be mobile...as that ol will be real shotty.
I hope guys realize that qbs dont have to come from "big schools". Not sure why the Fromm kid name is coming up already
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Say it properly. The hate for Tua is simpleton stupidity. The sports fan world is flooded with simplistic angry males who have no clue what they are looking at but thrill to overreact to one game or one play.
Trevor Lawrence still doesn't have one game in his college career with a YPA that matches Tua's season average in YPA from 2018.
One guy is basically holding steady at 11 YPA and the other guy holding steady at 8 YPA. But all the geniuses insist the 8 YPA guy is markedly superior, based on that one game.
I'd like to know how Trevor Lawrence is going to have a long career. That is the understated variable. There is a lengthy thread along those lines in the Draft Forum of FootballsFuture.com. Lawrence allows one huge hit after another. Yesterday was incredibly fortunate. He's gained 10 pounds and somehow brainstormed to use his legs more often. Brilliant. Now he's rolling right and rolling left and allowing himself to be walloped on the legs and everywhere else.
He should have learned the opposite lesson, after the game-ending sideline hit he took against Syracuse last year.
If Kyler Murray gets hurt it is a fluke. He knows how to quickly collapse into a little ball and make himself small, just like Russell Wilson. Tua is not as skilled or instinctive as those guys in that department, but along the same lines and it will likely get better. Lawrence, on the other hand, is a leggy type who provides a massive strike zone. Even the way he extends his body and follows through is ridiculously extended and allows countless things to go wrong off the edge.
The Dolphins would be world class fools to pass on Tua. For one thing, they won't have the ammo to move up for Lawrence in 2021, not unless additional moves are made. Two of those first round draft picks are in 2020. They only have one additional first round choice one besides their own in 2021.
That wouldn't be nearly enough. Anyone with a 2021 plan is essentially brain dead and situationally unaware. Not exactly a surprise. The Dolphins would have to successfully tank in two consecutive seasons. Given NFL parity levels, that is low percentage to put it mildly.
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Fromm isn't going to be a high pick. He has 8.75 inch hands, or at least he did as of that Army All American all star game a few years ago.
A number like that is a disqualifier. It won't matter how he looks otherwise. Teams are now reluctant to take anyone with 9.0 inch hands, let alone below that.
Justin Herbert has sucker written all over him. Check out the schools who recruited him, other than Oregon. It looks like a list of Big Sky basketball schools. Herbert was only a 3 star recruit.
Beyond that, he always looks like a shocked reluctant type in crunch time, like he doesn't expect to win. I could never draft a guy like that extremely high.
Jordan Love from Utah State is the sleeper. Actually he's very well known in draft circles but not among everyday fans. Reminds me somewhat of a modern day Dan Pastorini based on style. The problem with Utah State is that they lost so many skill position guys from last year, kind of like what Josh Allen faced in his final season at Wyoming
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I didn't see the Dolphins game but based on a few highlight clips it is amazing how Lamar Jackson is never the same player from one season to the next. I have emphasized that for years on Finheaven and other sites.
For a supposedly stupid guy Jackson really understands the need to work on his craft during the offseason. From the first clip I saw today it is obvious that his mechanics and his touch are vastly improved from 2018. And 2018 was superior to 2017. And so forth.
That was the reason Lamar Jackson was a difficult evaluation in that draft. He wasn't close to a pro ready quarterback coming out of Louisville. But it was already glaring that Jackson would not sit around for 7 seasons and be exactly the same flawed guy year after year, a la Ryan Tannehill.
For a supposedly stupid guy Jackson really understands the need to work on his craft during the offseason. From the first clip I saw today it is obvious that his mechanics and his touch are vastly improved from 2018. And 2018 was superior to 2017. And so forth.
That was the reason Lamar Jackson was a difficult evaluation in that draft. He wasn't close to a pro ready quarterback coming out of Louisville. But it was already glaring that Jackson would not sit around for 7 seasons and be exactly the same flawed guy year after year, a la Ryan Tannehill.