OT: My High-dea to improve Playoff System

[DMoney]

if we win out, and everyone ranked 1-7 wins out ( i understand this is not possible as a few of them play each other, but work with me here) .

Like you said, that's not going to happen. The system works.

If we win out, as you propose in your hypothetical, we're in.

 

[nbrewer22]

I think you have to find a way to include all of the P5 champions. What happens if and it's going to be a big if, all 5 champions from the P5 end up 13-0? Whoever gets left out is going to be ****ed. 6-8 teams is where it should be, no more than that or else the season gets watered down.

 

[DMoney]

What happens if and it's going to be a big if, all 5 champions from the P5 end up 13-0?

Why are we worried about something that has never happened in the history of mankind?

 

[nbrewer22]

What happens if and it's going to be a big if, all 5 champions from the P5 end up 13-0?

Why are we worried about something that has never happened in the history of mankind?

Okay so what happens if they all finish 12-1, last time it was TCU having no championship game but now that's a possibility.

 

[DaU83]

Eight team playoff is a great way to ruin college football. Why does anybody care to see a team like the loser of UGA and Alabama get a shot at the title? Did we need a bunch of 10 and 2 teams to get a title shot? Was Clemson not a valid national champ last year because Penn State didn’t get a shot at the title?

College football is the best because it’s not like any other sport. Why so many people want it to be like the NFL? It’s sad that it’s inevitable. The playoff will keep expanding and it will water down the regular season. Hey, lose that big non conference game in the beginning of the year..who cares? You can even drop another conference game or two, and still make it in. And why even schedule a big OOC game if you’re doing automatic bids?

I don’t hate the four team playoff, but it has been disappointing. Almost every semi final game has been a blowout.

People keep saying an eight team playoff is the only answer. The only answer to what?

Because the talking heads are thinking about putting the loser of the uga bama game in there anyways... I also think there needs to he more objective system for rankings.. bama has to lose to not be a one seed because they always start at the top...

So your solution is to make SURE that happens? Again, what problem are you trying to answer?

“Objective rankings” won’t ever happen, and part of the cool thing about college football is that what happened the season before matters. Ending seasons on high notes can get you into the national title conversation.

There is no reason Alabama shouldn’t have been #1 to start the year.

An expanded playoff would fundamentally change college football. It would lose what makes the regular season so fun and exciting. ****, even the offseason of college football is exciting because there’s story lines from last season that are built upon and influence the national title picture.

Because of the BCS and the playoff, you have guys from the SEC and ACC staying up late to see what happens in a Pac-10 game. Every major game matters on a national scale. Do away with that and CFB goes back to being a regional game.

There is zero reason to expand the playoffs unless you want cfb to be more like every other sport. It doesn’t solve any problem.

I would prefer that if there are 8 teams competing vs. 4.

you just used to same argument they used to use for not having a playoff at all.. not a good argument. If Bama loses to UGA, and gets in as a a 6 or 7 seed , I wouldn't have a problem with that.. if they lose and get in as a 4 seed, i would.

Also, it would be MUCH more objective at 8 teams. 5 conference winners leaves no room for subjectivity, and 3 at large selections which can be selected as they do now.

Look, you don’t really like college football and want to make it more like the NFL. Maybe that’s more “objective” for a football scientist like yourself.

What non-conference winners have gotten into the playoffs? What undeserving national champion has been crowned? Your entire premise is false.

the question you should be asking is "what conference winners HAVE NOT gotten into the playoffs"... also, having 8 of 120 whatever teams is not the same as having 12 of 32.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

Because the talking heads are thinking about putting the loser of the uga bama game in there anyways... I also think there needs to he more objective system for rankings.. bama has to lose to not be a one seed because they always start at the top...

So your solution is to make SURE that happens? Again, what problem are you trying to answer?

“Objective rankings” won’t ever happen, and part of the cool thing about college football is that what happened the season before matters. Ending seasons on high notes can get you into the national title conversation.

There is no reason Alabama shouldn’t have been #1 to start the year.

An expanded playoff would fundamentally change college football. It would lose what makes the regular season so fun and exciting. ****, even the offseason of college football is exciting because there’s story lines from last season that are built upon and influence the national title picture.

Because of the BCS and the playoff, you have guys from the SEC and ACC staying up late to see what happens in a Pac-10 game. Every major game matters on a national scale. Do away with that and CFB goes back to being a regional game.

There is zero reason to expand the playoffs unless you want cfb to be more like every other sport. It doesn’t solve any problem.

I would prefer that if there are 8 teams competing vs. 4.

you just used to same argument they used to use for not having a playoff at all.. not a good argument. If Bama loses to UGA, and gets in as a a 6 or 7 seed , I wouldn't have a problem with that.. if they lose and get in as a 4 seed, i would.

Also, it would be MUCH more objective at 8 teams. 5 conference winners leaves no room for subjectivity, and 3 at large selections which can be selected as they do now.

Look, you don’t really like college football and want to make it more like the NFL. Maybe that’s more “objective” for a football scientist like yourself.

What non-conference winners have gotten into the playoffs? What undeserving national champion has been crowned? Your entire premise is false.

the question you should be asking is "what conference winners HAVE NOT gotten into the playoffs"... also, having 8 of 120 whatever teams is not the same as having 12 of 32.

No, it’s not. That’s why college football is awesome. That’s why big games against out of conference schools matter. That’s why games all across the country matter even when your school or conference is not i volved. Because winning your conference is necessary, but not sufficient. Whether the exact math between the NFL and CFB matches is not really relevant. You want a system where you can lose however many games, and get a shot at the title just because you win a conference. Hey, it is what it is. You don’t really like the set up of the college football season and what makes it special.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

What happens if and it's going to be a big if, all 5 champions from the P5 end up 13-0?

Why are we worried about something that has never happened in the history of mankind?

Okay so what happens if they all finish 12-1, last time it was TCU having no championship game but now that's a possibility.

Then you have a wild finish to the CFB season, and the teams who played the best competition and had the most impressive wins will be rewarded.


There has been one competitive semi-final game so far.

 

[DaU83]

What happens if and it's going to be a big if, all 5 champions from the P5 end up 13-0?

Why are we worried about something that has never happened in the history of mankind?

Okay so what happens if they all finish 12-1, last time it was TCU having no championship game but now that's a possibility.

Then you have a wild finish to the CFB season, and the teams who played the best competition and had the most impressive wins will be rewarded.


There has been one competitive semi-final game so far.

I think we'd like to think that, but the truth is the teams that started off ranked higher will have an easier time maintaining their status

 

[Colombie]

I think due to money it will expand. I kind of like the idea Liberty City Mentioned with 6 Teams but it will eventually expand to 8.
Only a matter of when not if in my mind.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

This coming Saturday is exactly why we don’t need an eight team playoff. With an eight team playoff or automatic qualifiers, the game means nothing for Miami besides bragging rights.

 

[HurricaneAlex]

The real playoff system for Miami is winning out its the entire season has always been like that and things wont change.

 

[Kempo Cane]

There will never be enough teams in the playoff. ****, look at college basketball. Started as a 16 team tournament, then 32, then 64, now they have a play-in game because there were too many people crying about bubble teams. So now you get .500 teams making the post season tournament.

Put me in the category of wanting to go back to the bowl system but with no bowl ties so we can match teams up accurately, then letting voters vote on it... Thus allowing us to argue about that **** for eternity. THAT is college football.

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