OT: Matt Rhule to Nebraska

[paksat]

He is thinking “i went 2-10, 6-6, then 10-4 and 10-3 at Temple”

“I went 1-11, 7-6, then 11-3 at Baylor”

Why wouldn’t he think he cant turn it around at a program that actually has resources, tradition, and support?”

he can't do any better?

I would take him over mario in a heartbeat

 

[BWCD]

All I know is if Rhule resurrects Nebraska to national relevance before Mario does the same for Miami I'm gonna be ****ED

 

[dodaniels]

Matt Rhule is a massively overrated coach.

And Nebraska is a sad program, a once great powerhouse that hasnt won more than five games since 2016.

He turned two college programs around. It's Carolina fault for offering him a kings ransom.

 

[Bender]

He turned two college programs around. It's Carolina fault for offering him a kings ransom.

I still find him to be massively overrated.

 

[dodaniels]

I still find him to be massively overrated.

Gotcha

 

[mossmadness]

Baylor doesn't have anywhere near the historical prestige and championship pedigree that Nebraska does. It's not like Baylor has a history of landing blue chip talent, whereas Nebraska does. Plus with B10 money coming in, they will actually do pretty well. This is an A hire for them.

Nebraska doesn’t have a history of landing blue chips recruits during the life time of any current recruit.

 

[bolivar]

Wasn’t he Al Golden’s OC at Temple??

 

[mossmadness]

Rhule was always more of a “Identify under recruited guys and develop” them type of recruiter, rather than a dynamic salesman type recruiter.

It’s going to be tough to do that long term at any school, but especially at Nebraska, where there’s no ”rough” anywhere near you, let alone diamonds in them.

And as divisions go away, it will no longer be good enough to just be better than Purdue and that’s good enough for 8 wins a year.

To me, this hire is a good if the goal isn’t to be a top tier program, but instead a solid one.

 

[BoxingRobes]

I am sure Nebraska feels really good about this hire.

But then again, they thought they hit the jackpot with Scott Frost.

They, like us, just might have something dying under the floorboards up there. Hopefully they are cool getting back to Bo Pelini type results this time around. I'm sure they miss it.

 

[Artist Formerly Known As]

Rhule was always more of a “Identify under recruited guys and develop” them type of recruiter, rather than a dynamic salesman type recruiter.

It’s going to be tough to do that long term at any school, but especially at Nebraska, where there’s no ”rough” anywhere near you, let alone diamonds in them.

And as divisions go away, it will no longer be good enough to just be better than Purdue and that’s good enough for 8 wins a year.

To me, this hire is a good if the goal isn’t to be a top tier program, but instead a solid one.

He’s not going to win nattys at Nebraska, but at worst, he’s Ferentz at Iowa IMO. Nebraska may not settle for that, though

 

[Tru C]

I am sure Nebraska feels really good about this hire.

But then again, they thought they hit the jackpot with Scott Frost.

They, like us, just might have something dying under the floorboards up there. Hopefully they are cool getting back to Bo Pelini type results this time around. I'm sure they miss it.

Curious on the success rates of HC who were successful at at least TWO previous stops at the college level before they got the BIG job, and to me, big is a program with a national champ pedigree.

Meyer was successful at Bowling Green and Utah before the UF job.

Kelly was successful at Grand Valley, Central Michigan and Cincy before Notre Dame

Harbaugh was successful at San Diego and Stanford before Michigan

Rhule was successful at Temple and Baylor, lets see what happens

 

[ddann]

I am sure Nebraska feels really good about this hire.

But then again, they thought they hit the jackpot with Scott Frost.

They, like us, just might have something dying under the floorboards up there. Hopefully they are cool getting back to Bo Pelini type results this time around. I'm sure they miss it.

Pelini type results would be a dream come true for Nebraska AND Miami at this point.

 

[Canedude08]

What did he build? Lol

Temple? Golden laid the ground work

Baylor? Briles laid the ground work

You must have missed the disaster Briles left behind after his rape enabling *** got canned. Rhule had to completely overhaul that program, because of the crap that had happened before him. He managed to build it back pretty well. With Temple, Golden had built slowly, and people thought that they would go back to being mediocre, due to a lot of experienced talent leaving with Golden, due to graduation. Rhule had to deal Addazio being mediocre as all ****(People forgot that after Golden left, the program took some steps back), and the school continuing to adjust to the American, which was a step up from the old MAC.

 

[Canedude08]

I still find him to be massively overrated.

He's massively overrated because Carolina is a greasefire and most college coaches that move up to the NFL turn out to be pretty bad? Yep, makes a ton of sense. Think about it, there are far more Urban Meyer and Steve Spurrier type flame outs in the NFL, than there are Jimmy Johnsons that win big at both levels.

 

[TexasCane90]

You must have missed the disaster Briles left behind after his rape enabling *** got canned. Rhule had to completely overhaul that program, because of the crap that had happened before him. He managed to build it back pretty well. With Temple, Golden had built slowly, and people thought that they would go back to being mediocre, due to a lot of experienced talent leaving with Golden, due to graduation. Rhule had to deal Addazio being mediocre as all ****(People forgot that after Golden left, the program took some steps back), and the school continuing to adjust to the American, which was a step up from the old MAC.

I live in Texas I well aware of the Baylor cover up… what sanctions or scholarship limitations were imposed?? Geee I can’t remember

Plenty of excuses for the temple job… but either way you wanna spin it golden had BUILT that program from a doormat into at least an average football team.. the foundation had been laid.

Same with Baylor a foundation of winning and recruits expecting to do the same…

 

[M3N]

May not be a great pro coach but he knows how to identify talent and develop a program.

He did it at 2 door mats.

 

[Canedude08]

And if you can succeed at Temple you can succeed any…wait a second!!!

Underwhelming hire for a program with an extremely passionate fan base that has somehow been more sad and irrelevant than UM the past two decades.

Tell me you don't watch college football, without telling me. Rhule is probably the best hire Nebraska could end up with, because they weren't going to touch someone radioactive like Urban Meyer or Art Briles. Rhule isn't a **** name, he's just had success everywhere he's been at the collegiate level. Nebraska tried the "Hot Name" coach with Frost, and it failed spectacularly. They needed a workmanlike coach that will build the program into what they've always been when they are relevant: A tough, physical team that is extremely well coached.

 

[Tru C]

I live in Texas I well aware of the Baylor cover up… what sanctions or scholarship limitations were imposed?? Geee I can’t remember

Plenty of excuses for the temple job… but either way you wanna spin it golden had BUILT that program from a doormat into at least an average football team.. the foundation had been laid.

Same with Baylor a foundation of winning and recruits expecting to do the same…

Baylor went 1-11 and 7-6 his first two years

Temple went 2-10 and 6-6 his first two years

you make good points but I can also say I am not sure how much Golden and Briles had to do with the successful years.

when successful coaches leave a “foundation“ that usually means the next coach does most of their winning with the previous coaches recruits or guys that actually played a significant amount of snaps with the previous coach

 

[Canedude08]

I live in Texas I well aware of the Baylor cover up… what sanctions or scholarship limitations were imposed?? Geee I can’t remember

Plenty of excuses for the temple job… but either way you wanna spin it golden had BUILT that program from a doormat into at least an average football team.. the foundation had been laid.

Same with Baylor a foundation of winning and recruits expecting to do the same…

As someone that lived in Texas, you would know that they lost ALL recruiting momentum, they lost a ton of talent off of those teams, because Rhule had to dismiss or move people out of the program. They also had to deal with the school clamping down on certain things in regards to discipline, because they had to find a way to overcome the PR nightmare that was the end of the Briles era. Just because the NCAA didn't come after them(And even then, the NCAA was breathing down their necks heavily for a year or two), didn't mean that a lot of that foundation wasn't damaged due to what Briles did.

Again, Golden may have laid the foundation, but when you move from the MAC to the American, and you have a guy in between that was mediocre, you have to build back some of that. When they moved to the American, you saw that Temple was still somewhat undertalented, as shown by Addazio's last season when they were consistently DEMOLISHED in conference play. Let that settle in. Golden's foundation was built on them playing in the MAC, the American was a HUGE STEP UP and they had to meet it.

 

[Mackmiller974]

He turned two college programs around. It's Carolina fault for offering him a kings ransom.

Not really, temple had like 3 8+ win season before Rhule was hired as HC. Baylor was dealing with the scandal but they still had a lot of support and we're 7-6 the year before Rhule got there.