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SayWhat said:
It's also very common in football circles, whether you're white, black, or whatever.

Man, this is going to be the ***** generation.
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Maybe they will be a "***** generation." The only people I associate with under 30 are escorts and strippers, so I'm not an expert.

I never really had any coaches who engaged in this type of behavior. If they had, the team would have thought it stupid as ****.
 
plantcity3 said:
I don’t know about you but I have never had a coach grab his nuts, pull down his pants, then mock an entire culture or anything like that like this one did and I’ve had some tough *** coaches. I’ve also heard stories from my dad of coaches getting knocked out for doing things like that back in his day (70s).
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Would I say it's right, no, but it isn't even that crazy to me and this culture thing, I've heard all types clown kids and the sag with grabbing the crotch area. It isn't a facial thing, sure could be if it was just one race doing it, but it isn't. This is a generational thing, but people get all butthurt when people call them in their **** anymore. Coaches get out of line of line a lot, but where do you draw the line in the sand for what's too much? Heck if I know, but their are some hard *** coaches out there for sure.
 
TemplarCane said:
Pretty sure there are better ways to bring up young men than demean them.
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A little cliche-ish but you always get more with sweetness than bitterness. I’m avid in the gym. You never, ever see a good trainer talking down to somebody. You go enough and you learn real quick that the ones that encourage always make more money than the ones that don’t.
 
Lokest said:
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You can punk 18 and 19 year old kids like this but I don't think you're pulling this **** with the pros without physical altercation.
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What a ******* punk. That reeks of a puss.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Just play a little hypothetical mental game here.

You seem like a very nice and reasonable person. Let's add in that you are happily married. Then one day, you adopt a young black child. You raise the child in the suburbs, great schools, no lack of money. The child never gets into trouble, is an excellent student, and receives an athletic scholarship to a good school.

Then, the minute your child is away from home, an authority figure begins to belittle that child based on nothing but the color of his skin, having absolutely no idea of the upbringing, your parenting skills, the respect you have taught your child, etc.

You might have a problem with such behavior.

Essentially, that is what some of the Iowa football players have said. That this strength coach made derogatory and stereotypical comments that had nothing to do with the actual character of the individual, but were based on nothing but the ethnicity of the individual player (again, in a stereotypical way, there is no indication that these players spoke, behaved, or dressed in any stereotypical way).

That is all.

I am not saying anything good or bad about this coach. I am simply taking note of the fact that a significant number of players and former players have complained. And that Iowa seems to have found enough evidence of patterns of behavior or lack of oversight that have led them to hire a high-priced law firm to perform a full study of the program.

At the very least, this is concerning.
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If I reacted to every derogatory name I've been called I would be a basket case. Sticks and stones...I don't like being referred to as a racist but simply consider the sources as I have with other slanderous remarks. There are hundreds of ethnic slurs, I doubt we can react to or eliminate all of them. Should be water off a ducks back at some point. Know who you are than insults roll off.
 
fraggle said:
If I reacted to every derogatory name I've been called I would be a basket case. Sticks and stones...I don't like being referred to as a racist but simply consider the sources as I have with other slanderous remarks. There are hundreds of ethnic slurs, I doubt we can react to or eliminate all of them. Should be water off a ducks back at some point. Know who you are than insults roll off.
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Stop it. Apples and oranges. I can respect you as a grown man, but we are talking about 18 year old kids here.

Come on, stop acting like everyone responds the same way, or that everyone should respond the way that you do.

We can eliminate the "hundreds of ethnic slurs". We stop using them. It only takes the passage of time for the usage to disappear and the meaning to go to zero.

It is easy to research archaic ethnic slurs from hundreds of years ago that have faded from memory (and meaning) because they are not used anymore. Problem solved.
 
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