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**** so these days are gone in florida?

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People are idiots...now high school teams are just going to end up having "pick up football games" after practice to work on tackling and contact
 
It's a smart move. If you think concussions aren't having a serious impact on the number of youth football players, you have your head in the sand.

You don't have to pound on someone all week to be ready to play on game day. Eighty minutes a week plenty, forty minutes a practice pre-season.
 
skeeper said:
It's a smart move. If you think concussions aren't having a serious impact on the number of youth football players, you have your head in the sand.

You don't have to pound on someone all week to be ready to play on game day. Eighty minutes a week plenty, forty minutes a practice pre-season.
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It's patsies like you who are ruining the spirit of athletics. The concussion scare has been used by the NFL to gain positive public opinion because they intentionally hid the findings of a concussion study on NFL players. Like most cattle the heard follows the leader no matter how over blown the threat. Kids need as much practice on the fundamentals on blocking and tackling that coaches can squeeze in. This is nothing more than another bunch of bureaucratic never played sports geeks wanting to impact a game they never could play and pretend they saving kids. In reality you putting them at greater risk because they'll be unprepared for the rigors of sports. The idea that NBA stops play because some player's hand made slight contact with another players head is as ridiculous as rules come. They gonna pussification me right out of sports altogether. Maybe they'll be leagues for those uninterested in pussified football and basketball like these new fight leagues.
 
I can't say whether this new rule is the right way to go or not, mainly because I haven't bothered to read it.

What I can say is that I've gotten some good chuckles reading the posts of chest-beating, pot bellied, middle-aged sacks of tallow talking about how tough they are and how everyone else are just a bunch of puśśieš. LOL at keyboard tough guys that have never played a contact sport in their lives playing at being imaginary rough riders
 
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I get the whole concussion deal ... We all understand that .... But back in the day we had drills where we ran full speed , head on into each other just to warm up for practice .... That **** sets the tone for the whole rest of the practice .... When you play football , you know what your signing up for .... It's football that's what you do ... You weed out the pussies that can't handle it ... The puss cakes that they make these stupid *** rules of "no contact" for .... I had a coach just like that in MIDDLE SCHOOL ..... Used to call us all pussies if we was stepping aside or not going full speed and we won multiple state championships back to back to back by the time we got to highschool .... IT IS FOOTBALL .... **** all the ***** **** .. Just my opinion
 
I would think more contact would be a solution to tge concussions... Proper tackling is what is needed... And there isn't thar much contact in practice to begin with. You have your position drills and other practice reps you only have like 45 minutes to an hour of full contact a day... I mean for a great deal esch position group work with their coaches until like the last hour of practice... Man they are trying to neuter Florida football... Our aggressiveness is what made us stand out over those west coast pretty boys...
 
In the regular season, live contact drills will be limited to 30 minutes per day with a weekly allowance of 80 total minutes. There are no restrictions for non-contact, bag or "thud" drills — in which there may be contact above the waist. Each player takes his first two or three steps, then both relax and nobody goes to the ground.

Live contact, defined as drills with game-like conditions where players are taken to the ground, can no longer be held on consecutive days and may not exceed three practices per week. During the preseason, teams may participate in live contact drills for a maximum of 40 minutes per session.
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30 x 3 is 90...right?

And the article doesn't say the new rules are limited to no contact, it says no contact is an option...
There are no restrictions for non-contact, bag or "thud" drills
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...you can go full speed "thud".

Don't have a problem with much of these rules per se...about the only thing I have an issue with, is their definition of thud drills...
Each player takes his first two or three steps, then both relax and nobody goes to the ground.
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I did thud at 3/4 to full speed, and "drive for five"..."takes his first two or three steps, then both relax" sounds to passive to me, I think you need at least 5 yds. between players for thud to achieve it's full effectiveness. I hope that's not a hard & fast rule.
 
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skeeper said:
It's a smart move. If you think concussions aren't having a serious impact on the number of youth football players, you have your head in the sand.

You don't have to pound on someone all week to be ready to play on game day. Eighty minutes a week plenty, forty minutes a practice pre-season.
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It's patsies like you who are ruining the spirit of athletics. The concussion scare has been used by the NFL to gain positive public opinion because they intentionally hid the findings of a concussion study on NFL players. Like most cattle the heard follows the leader no matter how over blown the threat. Kids need as much practice on the fundamentals on blocking and tackling that coaches can squeeze in. This is nothing more than another bunch of bureaucratic never played sports geeks wanting to impact a game they never could play and pretend they saving kids. In reality you putting them at greater risk because they'll be unprepared for the rigors of sports. The idea that NBA stops play because some player's hand made slight contact with another players head is as ridiculous as rules come. They gonna pussification me right out of sports altogether. Maybe they'll be leagues for those uninterested in pussified football and basketball like these new fight leagues.
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Ok tough guy. I played football all my life including four years of major college football. I've coached youth football for five years. I'm on the board of our league, and most of our time is spent recruiting players to come out and play, cause we don't have enough payers to field teams. Take your pussified comments and deal with reality of where parental concerns are today. Rugby tackling techniques taught by Pete Carroll and others are now a major focus for youth football, and that is a great thing. It takes the head out of the tackle. That technique can be practiced without being live. Same with blocking.

You are the clueless one.

I used my head like a battering ram as a player, fortunately never had concussion. Just because things were done a certain way when people were younger doesn't mean that was right and approaches shouldn't adopt.
 
I don't see a problem. 80 minutes per week is plenty of live contact, especially when you're in-season.

Here's what people fail to realize...

It's not tackling that's the problem. That's not what's ******** people's heads up. It's the collisions that take place during every play. A Linebacker taking on a Fullback during Iso. A Defensive Tackle crashing into a Guard every 30 seconds for 15+ minutes straight. Vicious tackles might knock a player out cold but that's a rarity, it's the play-by-play collisions that are hurting the brain.

Excluding live tackling is not going to help that.
 
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At the higher levels, I think the painkillers were/are the biggest culprit...masking the pain, but doing more damage in the process.
 
When I played NT for North Miami Dolphins (before they name changed to West Dade Seminoles thank god), we went up against West Miramar Panthers...they ran the same play 3 times in a row, where the Fullback was to lead the RB into the A gap, the center pulled and let me through everytime...and every time the full back went full speed towards me with his head down. I wasn't going to be a ***** and move out the way, so, I accepted his challenge every time and took on the collision (got knocked back the first time and made the tackle the other 2 times). Regardless, the collision I made with the FB was greater than either of my tackles. That was in 4th grade...

-Imagine every defensive/offensive lineman that goes through that year in and year out for 8 more years before they even get to college.
-Imagine all the south florida DB's that want to make that loud clapping "Sean Taylor shoulder tackle".
-Imagine all the south florida RB's like Duke Johnson that don't give AF about your size, they will try to run you over until you stop them.

I didn't play football long enough, but just those 3 things alone happen every week for 10-17 weeks in a row for 10+ years as a south florida baller. I have to agree with Macho that tackling isn't the problem when it comes to this rule being made.

However, I still believe what I posted earlier...that kids are just going to make matters worse by avoiding the rule. Especially if it's coaches out there that don't want to let go of the old fashion way, and don't discourage their players from contact outside of practice.
 
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