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duke4heisman said:
I was responding to Krazy Cane but thanks for confirming I'm always on your mind
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Are you not capable of quoting correctly?

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Jaromir Jagr said:
Sometimes part of a previous quote stays there if you didn't complete a post. I've had to go back and delete stuff before posting.
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Yeah I've noticed that before when I changed my mind but didn't see it this time. They need to fix that, usually I see it everytime I go back to a thread; it's annoying.
 
F*ck it. This thread is already off the rails and epic so might as well throw this in there again for sh*ts and giggles.

Source: Football Statistics and History | The Football Database

Miami Players Recruited/Coached Under Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
1997 1 15 Miami Dolphins Yatil Green WR
1997 1 17 Washington Redskins Kenard Lang DE
1997 1 18 Tennessee Oilers Kenny Holmes DE
1997 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Tremain Mack DB
1997 5 133 Atlanta Falcons Marcus Wimberly DB
1997 5 148 Washington Redskins Twan Russell LB
1997 6 192 New England Patriots Tony Gaiter WR
1997 7 211 Seattle Seahawks Carlos Jones DB
1998 1 10 Baltimore Ravens Duane Starks DB
1998 3 74 Atlanta Falcons Jammi German WR
1999 1 4 Indianapolis Colts Edgerrin James RB
1999 5 135 Cincinnati Bengals Nicolas Luchey RB
1999 7 245 Cincinnati Bengals Scott Covington QB
2000 1 14 Green Bay Packers Bubba Franks TE
2000 2 56 Minnesota Vikings Michael Boireau DE
2000 3 90 Tampa Bay Bucs Nate Webster LB
2000 5 148 Baltimore Ravens Richard Mercier OG
2000 7 227 Oakland Raiders Mondriel Fulcher TE
2001 1 11 Carolina Panthers Dan Morgan LB
2001 1 12 St. Louis Rams Damione Lewis DT
2001 1 16 New York Jets Santana Moss WR
2001 1 30 Indianapolis Colts Reggie Wayne WR
2001 3 65 Cleveland Browns James Jackson RB
2001 6 200 New England Patriots Leonard Myers DB
2001 7 245 Cleveland Browns Andre King WR
2002 1 7 Minnesota Vikings Bryant McKinnie OT
2002 1 14 New York Giants Jeremy Shockey TE
2002 1 17 Oakland Raiders Phillip Buchanon DB
2002 1 24 Baltimore Ravens Ed Reed DB
2002 1 27 San Francisco 49ers Mike Rumph DB
2002 2 51 Denver Broncos Clinton Portis RB
2002 4 116 Atlanta Falcons Martin Bibla OG
2002 4 135 Green Bay Packers Najeh Davenport RB
2002 6 183 Indianapolis Colts James Lewis DB
2002 7 226 New York Giants Daryl Jones WR
2002 7 227 Cleveland Browns Joaquin Gonzalez OT
2003 1 3 Houston Texans Andre Johnson WR
2003 1 15 Philadelphia Eagles Jerome McDougle DE
2003 1 23 Buffalo Bills Willis McGahee RB
2003 1 25 New York Giants William Joseph DT
2003 3 89 San Francisco 49ers Andrew Williams DE
2003 4 131 Philadelphia Eagles Jamaal Green DE
2003 5 150 New York Jets Matt Walters DT
2003 7 241 San Francisco 49ers Ken Dorsey QB
2004 1 5 Washington Redskins Sean Taylor DB
2004 1 6 Cleveland Browns Kellen Winslow TE
2004 1 12 New York Jets Jonathan Vilma LB
2004 1 17 Denver Broncos D.J. Williams LB
2004 1 19 Miami Dolphins Vernon Carey OT
2004 1 21 New England Patriots Vince Wilfork DT
2004 7 213 New York Jets Darrell McClover LB
2004 7 215 Chicago Bears Alfonso Marshall DB
2004 7 254 San Diego Chargers Carlos Joseph OT
2005 1 8 Arizona Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB
2005 2 55 Buffalo Bills Roscoe Parrish WR
2005 3 65 San Francisco 49ers Frank Gore RB
2005 3 86 Buffalo Bills Kevin Everett TE
2005 6 200 Denver Broncos Chris Myers OG
Total # of Players 58
Total 1st Rounders 26

North Carolina Players Recruited/Coached By Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
2008 1 29 San Francisco 49ers Kentwan Balmer DT
2008 7 221 Carolina Panthers Hilee Taylor LB
2009 1 29 New York Giants Hakeem Nicks WR
2009 2 64 Denver Broncos Richard Quinn TE
2009 3 83 New England Patriots Brandon Tate WR
2009 5 156 Atlanta Falcons Garrett Reynolds OT
2009 5 160 St. Louis Rams Brooks Foster WR
2010 4 127 Seattle Seahawks E.J. Wilson DE
2010 5 146 San Diego Chargers Cam Thomas DT
2011 1 14 St. Louis Rams Robert Quinn DE
2011 2 40 Dallas Cowboys Bruce Carter LB
2011 2 52 New York Giants Marvin Austin DT
2011 2 59 Cleveland Browns Greg Little WR
2011 4 100 Buffalo Bills Da'Norris Searcy DB
2011 5 133 Buffalo Bills Johnny White RB
2011 5 152 Houston Texans T.J. Yates QB
2011 6 171 Arizona Cardinals Quan Sturdivant LB
2011 7 218 Green Bay Packers Ryan Taylor TE
2012 1 16 New York Jets Quinton Coples DE
2012 2 52 Tennessee Titans Zach Brown LB
2013 1 7 Arizona Cardinals Jonathan Cooper OG
2013 1 28 Denver Broncos Sylvester Williams DT
2013 2 37 Cincinnati Bengals Giovani Bernard RB
2013 3 89 Houston Texans Brennan Williams OT
2013 7 214 Minnesota Vikings Travis Bond OG
2014 1 10 Detroit Lions Eric Ebron TE
2014 3 84 Arizona Cardinals Kareem Martin DE
2014 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Russell Bodine C
2014 4 128 Carolina Panthers Tre Boston DB
2014 7 225 Minnesota Vikings Jabari Price DB
Total # of Players 30
Total 1st Rounders 7

North Carolina had more players drafted during Butch Davis' tenure than in the previous decade. Miami was more consistent. You only have to go back roughly 7 years (1988) to match the same draft total of Davis' tenure.

After Butch Davis' players left, it wouldn’t be until 2017 that North Carolina would have any player taken in the NFL Draft (Mitch Trubisky QB Rd1 - Chicago Bears).

During the same time period Butch Davis was at North Carolina (2006 to 2011), Miami had three fewer players drafted (27) than North Carolina. Only one of them - Kenny Phillips in 2008 - would be a first round pick.

North Carolina had 7 first round picks during the same period.
 
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Brooklyndee said:
Yeah because even if god comes down in the form of a gerbil & magically a stadium appears can you even imagine us1 or the surrounding roads dealing with gameday traffic... that will be the last game I EVER go to unless they let us helicopter in & out
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Dee, that's exactly what I said earlier...The Palmetto is really the only Major outlet/inlet....Lol at US1 with 60,000 more fans running loose...
 
HurricaneU said:
F*ck it. This thread is already off the rails and epic so might as well throw this in there again for sh*ts and giggles.

Source: Football Statistics and History | The Football Database

Miami Players Recruited/Coached Under Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
1997 1 15 Miami Dolphins Yatil Green WR
1997 1 17 Washington Redskins Kenard Lang DE
1997 1 18 Tennessee Oilers Kenny Holmes DE
1997 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Tremain Mack DB
1997 5 133 Atlanta Falcons Marcus Wimberly DB
1997 5 148 Washington Redskins Twan Russell LB
1997 6 192 New England Patriots Tony Gaiter WR
1997 7 211 Seattle Seahawks Carlos Jones DB
1998 1 10 Baltimore Ravens Duane Starks DB
1998 3 74 Atlanta Falcons Jammi German WR
1999 1 4 Indianapolis Colts Edgerrin James RB
1999 5 135 Cincinnati Bengals Nicolas Luchey RB
1999 7 245 Cincinnati Bengals Scott Covington QB
2000 1 14 Green Bay Packers Bubba Franks TE
2000 2 56 Minnesota Vikings Michael Boireau DE
2000 3 90 Tampa Bay Bucs Nate Webster LB
2000 5 148 Baltimore Ravens Richard Mercier OG
2000 7 227 Oakland Raiders Mondriel Fulcher TE
2001 1 11 Carolina Panthers Dan Morgan LB
2001 1 12 St. Louis Rams Damione Lewis DT
2001 1 16 New York Jets Santana Moss WR
2001 1 30 Indianapolis Colts Reggie Wayne WR
2001 3 65 Cleveland Browns James Jackson RB
2001 6 200 New England Patriots Leonard Myers DB
2001 7 245 Cleveland Browns Andre King WR
2002 1 7 Minnesota Vikings Bryant McKinnie OT
2002 1 14 New York Giants Jeremy Shockey TE
2002 1 17 Oakland Raiders Phillip Buchanon DB
2002 1 24 Baltimore Ravens Ed Reed DB
2002 1 27 San Francisco 49ers Mike Rumph DB
2002 2 51 Denver Broncos Clinton Portis RB
2002 4 116 Atlanta Falcons Martin Bibla OG
2002 4 135 Green Bay Packers Najeh Davenport RB
2002 6 183 Indianapolis Colts James Lewis DB
2002 7 226 New York Giants Daryl Jones WR
2002 7 227 Cleveland Browns Joaquin Gonzalez OT
2003 1 3 Houston Texans Andre Johnson WR
2003 1 15 Philadelphia Eagles Jerome McDougle DE
2003 1 23 Buffalo Bills Willis McGahee RB
2003 1 25 New York Giants William Joseph DT
2003 3 89 San Francisco 49ers Andrew Williams DE
2003 4 131 Philadelphia Eagles Jamaal Green DE
2003 5 150 New York Jets Matt Walters DT
2003 7 241 San Francisco 49ers Ken Dorsey QB
2004 1 5 Washington Redskins Sean Taylor DB
2004 1 6 Cleveland Browns Kellen Winslow TE
2004 1 12 New York Jets Jonathan Vilma LB
2004 1 17 Denver Broncos D.J. Williams LB
2004 1 19 Miami Dolphins Vernon Carey OT
2004 1 21 New England Patriots Vince Wilfork DT
2004 7 213 New York Jets Darrell McClover LB
2004 7 215 Chicago Bears Alfonso Marshall DB
2004 7 254 San Diego Chargers Carlos Joseph OT
2005 1 8 Arizona Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB
2005 2 55 Buffalo Bills Roscoe Parrish WR
2005 3 65 San Francisco 49ers Frank Gore RB
2005 3 86 Buffalo Bills Kevin Everett TE
2005 6 200 Denver Broncos Chris Myers OG
Total # of Players 58
Total 1st Rounders 26

North Carolina Players Recruited/Coached By Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
2008 1 29 San Francisco 49ers Kentwan Balmer DT
2008 7 221 Carolina Panthers Hilee Taylor LB
2009 1 29 New York Giants Hakeem Nicks WR
2009 2 64 Denver Broncos Richard Quinn TE
2009 3 83 New England Patriots Brandon Tate WR
2009 5 156 Atlanta Falcons Garrett Reynolds OT
2009 5 160 St. Louis Rams Brooks Foster WR
2010 4 127 Seattle Seahawks E.J. Wilson DE
2010 5 146 San Diego Chargers Cam Thomas DT
2011 1 14 St. Louis Rams Robert Quinn DE
2011 2 40 Dallas Cowboys Bruce Carter LB
2011 2 52 New York Giants Marvin Austin DT
2011 2 59 Cleveland Browns Greg Little WR
2011 4 100 Buffalo Bills Da'Norris Searcy DB
2011 5 133 Buffalo Bills Johnny White RB
2011 5 152 Houston Texans T.J. Yates QB
2011 6 171 Arizona Cardinals Quan Sturdivant LB
2011 7 218 Green Bay Packers Ryan Taylor TE
2012 1 16 New York Jets Quinton Coples DE
2012 2 52 Tennessee Titans Zach Brown LB
2013 1 7 Arizona Cardinals Jonathan Cooper OG
2013 1 28 Denver Broncos Sylvester Williams DT
2013 2 37 Cincinnati Bengals Giovani Bernard RB
2013 3 89 Houston Texans Brennan Williams OT
2013 7 214 Minnesota Vikings Travis Bond OG
2014 1 10 Detroit Lions Eric Ebron TE
2014 3 84 Arizona Cardinals Kareem Martin DE
2014 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Russell Bodine C
2014 4 128 Carolina Panthers Tre Boston DB
2014 7 225 Minnesota Vikings Jabari Price DB
Total # of Players 30
Total 1st Rounders 7

North Carolina had more players drafted during Butch Davis' tenure than in the previous decade. Miami was more consistent. You only have to go back roughly 7 years (1988) to match the same draft total of Davis' tenure.

After Butch Davis' players left, it wouldn’t be until 2017 that North Carolina would have any player taken in the NFL Draft (Mitch Trubisky QB Rd1 - Chicago Bears).

During the same time period Butch Davis was at North Carolina (2006 to 2011), Miami had three fewer players drafted (27) than North Carolina. Only one of them - Kenny Phillips in 2008 - would be a first round pick.

North Carolina had 7 first round picks during the same period.
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JUST DROP THE MF-ING MIC NOW...
 
Was talking to local high school coach here in Nola today. He was telling me how there is not one person in the game today that can spot talent as fast as Butch Davis. He said he had several stories. He said on multiple occasions he would be about to send out films on underclassman and Butch would call before he even sent it out. Said it was the eeriest thing he had seen. He thought Butch had his computer hacked.

He was telling me story how a few weeks ago, in a Friday night game, he had an Offensive Guard go down. He put in a true Freshman who had yet played a down in HS football...who he thinks will could be a P5 starter one day. He said the kid had an impressive game, but nothing that would attract the attention of any colleges, as he was just a Freshman. The other team had a DE who will be at a P5 next year.

The next morning he got to his office at 7am and he had a message. It was muthaf*cking Butch Davis asking about this kid. He said he watched the game to check out the DE and was impressed with true freshman’s skill set.

The coach said he was shocked as there was not one coach in the game today that would pick that up, not even Saban.

Butch is on another level. Period.
 
Even at FIU from his first class to last year's (this year's is too small to tell) you can see he is bringing in very good talent relative to what FIU is normally used to having. They have a true FR TE Sterling Palmer I would love for us to have if we hadn't gotten Jordan and Mallory. He has 17 catches on the year (1 TD) and is a 6'5 230 lb former bball playing raw specimen that he found in Richmond.
 
Boot Cane said:
Was talking to local high school coach here in Nola today. He was telling me how there is not one person in the game today that can spot talent as fast as Butch Davis. He said he had several stories. He said on multiple occasions he would be about to send out films on underclassman and Butch would call before he even sent it out. Said it was the eeriest thing he had seen. He thought Butch had his computer hacked.

He was telling me story how a few weeks ago, in a Friday night game, he had an Offensive Guard go down. He put in a true Freshman who had yet played a down in HS football...who he thinks will could be a P5 starter one day. He said the kid had an impressive game, but nothing that would attract the attention of any colleges, as he was just a Freshman. The other team had a DE who will be at a P5 next year.

The next morning he got to his office at 7am and he had a message. It was muthaf*cking Butch Davis asking about this kid. He said he watched the game to check out the DE and was impressed with true freshman’s skill set.

The coach said he was shocked as there was not one coach in the game today that would pick that up, not even Saban.

Butch is on another level. Period.
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I've known this for 23yrs...Even JJ knew this yrs ago....
 
HurricaneU said:
F*ck it. This thread is already off the rails and epic so might as well throw this in there again for sh*ts and giggles.

Source: Football Statistics and History | The Football Database

Miami Players Recruited/Coached Under Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
1997 1 15 Miami Dolphins Yatil Green WR
1997 1 17 Washington Redskins Kenard Lang DE
1997 1 18 Tennessee Oilers Kenny Holmes DE
1997 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Tremain Mack DB
1997 5 133 Atlanta Falcons Marcus Wimberly DB
1997 5 148 Washington Redskins Twan Russell LB
1997 6 192 New England Patriots Tony Gaiter WR
1997 7 211 Seattle Seahawks Carlos Jones DB
1998 1 10 Baltimore Ravens Duane Starks DB
1998 3 74 Atlanta Falcons Jammi German WR
1999 1 4 Indianapolis Colts Edgerrin James RB
1999 5 135 Cincinnati Bengals Nicolas Luchey RB
1999 7 245 Cincinnati Bengals Scott Covington QB
2000 1 14 Green Bay Packers Bubba Franks TE
2000 2 56 Minnesota Vikings Michael Boireau DE
2000 3 90 Tampa Bay Bucs Nate Webster LB
2000 5 148 Baltimore Ravens Richard Mercier OG
2000 7 227 Oakland Raiders Mondriel Fulcher TE
2001 1 11 Carolina Panthers Dan Morgan LB
2001 1 12 St. Louis Rams Damione Lewis DT
2001 1 16 New York Jets Santana Moss WR
2001 1 30 Indianapolis Colts Reggie Wayne WR
2001 3 65 Cleveland Browns James Jackson RB
2001 6 200 New England Patriots Leonard Myers DB
2001 7 245 Cleveland Browns Andre King WR
2002 1 7 Minnesota Vikings Bryant McKinnie OT
2002 1 14 New York Giants Jeremy Shockey TE
2002 1 17 Oakland Raiders Phillip Buchanon DB
2002 1 24 Baltimore Ravens Ed Reed DB
2002 1 27 San Francisco 49ers Mike Rumph DB
2002 2 51 Denver Broncos Clinton Portis RB
2002 4 116 Atlanta Falcons Martin Bibla OG
2002 4 135 Green Bay Packers Najeh Davenport RB
2002 6 183 Indianapolis Colts James Lewis DB
2002 7 226 New York Giants Daryl Jones WR
2002 7 227 Cleveland Browns Joaquin Gonzalez OT
2003 1 3 Houston Texans Andre Johnson WR
2003 1 15 Philadelphia Eagles Jerome McDougle DE
2003 1 23 Buffalo Bills Willis McGahee RB
2003 1 25 New York Giants William Joseph DT
2003 3 89 San Francisco 49ers Andrew Williams DE
2003 4 131 Philadelphia Eagles Jamaal Green DE
2003 5 150 New York Jets Matt Walters DT
2003 7 241 San Francisco 49ers Ken Dorsey QB
2004 1 5 Washington Redskins Sean Taylor DB
2004 1 6 Cleveland Browns Kellen Winslow TE
2004 1 12 New York Jets Jonathan Vilma LB
2004 1 17 Denver Broncos D.J. Williams LB
2004 1 19 Miami Dolphins Vernon Carey OT
2004 1 21 New England Patriots Vince Wilfork DT
2004 7 213 New York Jets Darrell McClover LB
2004 7 215 Chicago Bears Alfonso Marshall DB
2004 7 254 San Diego Chargers Carlos Joseph OT
2005 1 8 Arizona Cardinals Antrel Rolle DB
2005 2 55 Buffalo Bills Roscoe Parrish WR
2005 3 65 San Francisco 49ers Frank Gore RB
2005 3 86 Buffalo Bills Kevin Everett TE
2005 6 200 Denver Broncos Chris Myers OG
Total # of Players 58
Total 1st Rounders 26

North Carolina Players Recruited/Coached By Butch Davis

Year Round Pick Team Player Position
2008 1 29 San Francisco 49ers Kentwan Balmer DT
2008 7 221 Carolina Panthers Hilee Taylor LB
2009 1 29 New York Giants Hakeem Nicks WR
2009 2 64 Denver Broncos Richard Quinn TE
2009 3 83 New England Patriots Brandon Tate WR
2009 5 156 Atlanta Falcons Garrett Reynolds OT
2009 5 160 St. Louis Rams Brooks Foster WR
2010 4 127 Seattle Seahawks E.J. Wilson DE
2010 5 146 San Diego Chargers Cam Thomas DT
2011 1 14 St. Louis Rams Robert Quinn DE
2011 2 40 Dallas Cowboys Bruce Carter LB
2011 2 52 New York Giants Marvin Austin DT
2011 2 59 Cleveland Browns Greg Little WR
2011 4 100 Buffalo Bills Da'Norris Searcy DB
2011 5 133 Buffalo Bills Johnny White RB
2011 5 152 Houston Texans T.J. Yates QB
2011 6 171 Arizona Cardinals Quan Sturdivant LB
2011 7 218 Green Bay Packers Ryan Taylor TE
2012 1 16 New York Jets Quinton Coples DE
2012 2 52 Tennessee Titans Zach Brown LB
2013 1 7 Arizona Cardinals Jonathan Cooper OG
2013 1 28 Denver Broncos Sylvester Williams DT
2013 2 37 Cincinnati Bengals Giovani Bernard RB
2013 3 89 Houston Texans Brennan Williams OT
2013 7 214 Minnesota Vikings Travis Bond OG
2014 1 10 Detroit Lions Eric Ebron TE
2014 3 84 Arizona Cardinals Kareem Martin DE
2014 4 111 Cincinnati Bengals Russell Bodine C
2014 4 128 Carolina Panthers Tre Boston DB
2014 7 225 Minnesota Vikings Jabari Price DB
Total # of Players 30
Total 1st Rounders 7

North Carolina had more players drafted during Butch Davis' tenure than in the previous decade. Miami was more consistent. You only have to go back roughly 7 years (1988) to match the same draft total of Davis' tenure.

After Butch Davis' players left, it wouldn’t be until 2017 that North Carolina would have any player taken in the NFL Draft (Mitch Trubisky QB Rd1 - Chicago Bears).

During the same time period Butch Davis was at North Carolina (2006 to 2011), Miami had three fewer players drafted (27) than North Carolina. Only one of them - Kenny Phillips in 2008 - would be a first round pick.

North Carolina had 7 first round picks during the same period.
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No one ever disputed the fact that he could accumulate talent. Again this list didn’t do anything, how was he on gameday since you keep deflecting that
 
brock said:
No one ever disputed the fact that he could accumulate talent. Again this list didn’t do anything, how was he on gameday since you keep deflecting that
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How would Bowden...Saban...and Urbans gameday coaching look down 31 schollies in 4yrs??....Stop your Buffoonery....Butch knew his limitations....hence a slew of Great Assistants....Not only did he Build The Greatest team....but a UM staff only bypassed by the 85-88 staff that he was part of....Stop the nonsense...
 
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Broke was still sucking on a binky when Butch was here but he's the expert because he's the quickest re-tweeter in the west.

Only on CiS folks.

LMFAO
 
Is it just bad luck that has caused Butch to do absolutely nothing since 2000 while other coaches moved up and became more and more successful?
 
brock said:
No one ever disputed the fact that he could accumulate talent. Again this list didn’t do anything, how was he on gameday since you keep deflecting that
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Go sit yo gumby lookin *** down somewhere. You was one of golden's biggest supporters and now you up in this ***** trying to talk bad about the architect of the GREATEST team in history. Man you a straight up cornball
 
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