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OT- Anyone watch 'What Carter Lost' the latest 30 for 30?...

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of course, nothing is better than 'the U'(which is the Citizen Kane of 30 for 30) but this was pretty **** good. Having read Friday Night Lights and having Jesse Armstead involved made me very interested in this topic and it delivered. It's a story of class, race, education, priorities, mistakes and eventually redemption and I thought the producers did a great job in really laying out the story.

And yes, Armstead was featured prominently - even had his signing day ceremony when he signed his LOI with Jimmy Johnson(who he never got to play for) and the U wearing what would be his #1 jersey, which he demanded as the nations top player. Great to see 'Superman' doing well today.

But seriously, I highly recommend this. It's a very entertaining cautionary tale.
 
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About to post this as well. I agree, outside the Cane's 30 for 30's it was one of the better ones. Great to see another one of our former stars represented so well. Glad he was able to avoid those mistakes. Crazy story.
 
Felt for armstead when he talked about being conflicted on telling coach what was going down. Wish he would have for the other guys sakes but I thought he did a great job. What stuck with me was 2 things: 1. No recidivism. From any of the guys. These weren't hardened criminals but rather unbelievable knuckleheads. 2. How much talent was wasted. Heartbreaking.
 
To see them in person and to know how close to truth the story was unlike Odessa premium in Friday Night Lights. :U5PyXda: urThe story being very truthful on all bases with football as a religion in Texas
 
TheUBack said:
Felt for armstead when he talked about being conflicted on telling coach what was going down. Wish he would have for the other guys sakes but I thought he did a great job. What stuck with me was 2 things: 1. No recidivism. From any of the guys. These weren't hardened criminals but rather unbelievable knuckleheads. 2. How much talent was wasted. Heartbreaking.
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What was interesting was that these guys all came from nuclear families and middle class surroundings.For years I thought Carter was the stereotypical inner-city school but it really wasn't. You can understand(sorta) when individuals come from different situations but even these kids got caught up in a lifestyle.
 
In addition to working for the Giants, Jessie is making a fortune on Honda dealerships.

He recently won an award for Black Entrepeneur of the Year in the NE corridor.
 
I believe Miami's hurricane s 30 for 30 were the first pilot of the series on ESPN. Because it's all about the U.
 
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So Carter wasn't just the "evil black people" school like they were portrayed in Friday Night Lights?
 
Just finished watching this 30 for 30. Wow. Great to see Jesse as a true leader and someone who had the foresight to understand what was at risk. These kids weren't criminals, but knuckleheads as stated above. Dumb can get you real time in the joint though. The families are the best part. Huge fan of Thurman Edwards. He's a good man. He's just one example. It is a great story. The 30 for 30 series is probably the last aspect of that **** network I like outside of college ball games.

Go Canes!
 
"The U" was the best 30 for 30 released, with "Pony Exce$$" a distant second. My parents both attended Carter High, in fact one of my aunts was a classmate of Armstead, so this story isn't anything new to me. That said, it was nice to see that ESPN took the time to tell one of the most heartbreaking stories of loss and stupidity in sports history. People forget how talented Carter High was back then, and how Miami tapped into that pipeline. Kevin Williams and later Daryl Jones(Whose mother taught at my high school), were 'Canes as well. Unfortunately, as middle class and upper middle class Blacks moved out of Oak Cliff, the Carter program suffered.
 
DTP said:
So Carter wasn't just the "evil black people" school like they were portrayed in Friday Night Lights?
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Huh I didn't get that vibe from Friday night lights at all ... I just saw them as a really good football team .. Old school Miami kind've ... But to each his own ..
 
Jesse had one of the craziest stats ever - iirc, he logged close to 300 tackles his senior year. You can bring up all the cynicism about doctored box scores you want but even if it's not that high, it shows he was a tackling machine
 
AUcane said:
Jesse had one of the craziest stats ever - iirc, he logged close to 300 tackles his senior year. You can bring up all the cynicism about doctored box scores you want but even if it's not that high, it shows he was a tackling machine
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I love how he demanded #1 for his jersey as the best player in the country.
 
Canedude08 said:
"The U" was the best 30 for 30 released, with "Pony Exce$$" a distant second. My parents both attended Carter High, in fact one of my aunts was a classmate of Armstead, so this story isn't anything new to me. That said, it was nice to see that ESPN took the time to tell one of the most heartbreaking stories of loss and stupidity in sports history. People forget how talented Carter High was back then, and how Miami tapped into that pipeline. Kevin Williams and later Daryl Jones(Whose mother taught at my high school), were 'Canes as well. Unfortunately, as middle class and upper middle class Blacks moved out of Oak Cliff, the Carter program suffered.
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By 88 Jimmy really had recruiting rolling, his last two classes at UM were absolutely loaded with quality. And he had made inroads in Texas as the SWC was going through all their scandals. I still say the Armstead, Barrow, Smith trio(the Bermuda Triangle) is the best in college football history
 
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