OSU > FSU

[BiltmoreCANE]

No ******* chance that OSU is better than FSU. I couldn't possibly disagree more...and nobody on this planet hates FSU more than I do.

Ervin Maya's got em coached up

They lost to a 5 loss V Tech team...at home.

If it was a court case I'd drop the mic and walk way right after that statement.

Bottom line it SHOULD be TCU...but God knows "TCU' isn't **** for ratings and doesn't have tradition. That's the ONLY reason this is even a discussion.

Let's do this...suppose Miami was in TCU's exact position right now...we would ALL be screaming bloody murder.

TCU is in the 1-3 range for me.

Last three are Fsu Baylor and osu. And no, I don't think you can leave an undefeated team out. I'm just positing that they would both beat Fsu, inside of my mind, in a game that will never be played.

Well as much as I hate to say it FSU should be #1...and the fact that is even being debated right now really makes me question the entire ******* logic of the committee and the system in general.

If Miami was in FSU's shoes, an undefeated defending champ....again...we would ALL be screaming bloody murder.

Bottom line OSU shouldn't even be in the discussion.

Totally agree on the Miami angle but disagree on osu not being in the disc. They should be with baylor, tcu, ect.
I would have them rated this way.
1 noles unbeaten reigning mnc nothing else needs to be said
2 ducks just destroyed the only team that beat them this year
3 bama 1 loss in the sec & whipped mizzou in sec title game
4 open for discussion between several teams
Do I think that the noles are the best team in the country?......hardly but, they are the only unbeaten team the last 2 years & the champ. good enough starting point for me.

 

[Dwinstitles]

At the end of the day we all don't want Fsu to win, but if we came off a title winning year and were undefeated and they try to leave us out we would be up in arms walin son.

 

[the storm]

FSU PLAYS all the bums to get where they are. UM might be in a different situation too if they had the defensive players thrown off the team/out of school. How is a system like this fair? Add that to inept coaching & this is what you have & will have unless things change @ UM. Also, look at OSU.....they are playing 22 FROSH & SOPH!!! Urban renewal NEVER throws anyone off the team. Look out the next 2 years with them.

 

[Dwinstitles]

No ****ing chance that OSU is better than FSU. I couldn't possibly disagree more...and nobody on this planet hates FSU more than I do.

Ervin Maya's got em coached up

They lost to a 5 loss V Tech team...at home.

If it was a court case I'd drop the mic and walk way right after that statement.

Bottom line it SHOULD be TCU...but God knows "TCU' isn't **** for ratings and doesn't have tradition. That's the ONLY reason this is even a discussion.

Let's do this...suppose Miami was in TCU's exact position right now...we would ALL be screaming bloody murder.

TCU is in the 1-3 range for me.

Last three are Fsu Baylor and osu. And no, I don't think you can leave an undefeated team out. I'm just positing that they would both beat Fsu, inside of my mind, in a game that will never be played.

Well as much as I hate to say it FSU should be #1...and the fact that is even being debated right now really makes me question the entire ****ing logic of the committee and the system in general.

If Miami was in FSU's shoes, an undefeated defending champ....again...we would ALL be screaming bloody murder.

Bottom line OSU shouldn't even be in the discussion.

The problem with your post is psycho crazy fans can't think normally, u say put miami in there shoes but they can't there fkin retarded. This is how they go through life they pick something and nothing can change there mind.

 

[MIA42178]

Playing comparably ranked teams right now. OSU is destroying Wisconsin and a top 5 defense, playing their third stringer.

FSU is in yet another shoot out with a one dimensional no defense team.

No question Ohio State should be in the playoffs. FSU has played an abominable schedule, and if not for some blatant home cooking would have 2 losses already.

***** O$Uck, they lost, in the Crapshoe, to VT!!! Yes VT!!! Fattaweenie Alfredo even beat VT in their own stadium.

Just invite Terry Porter to dinner tommorow, okay?

This right here. FSU won the acc. OSU lost at home badly to a team that finished bottom half of coastal division.
It's body of work. Had OSU lost to vt last game we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The only discussion should be TCU or Baylor. And Baylor beat TCU but we all know how that usually works out

 

[Kn[]_[]ckles3o5]

Playing comparably ranked teams right now. OSU is destroying Wisconsin and a top 5 defense, playing their third stringer.

FSU is in yet another shoot out with a one dimensional no defense team.

No question Ohio State should be in the playoffs. FSU has played an abominable schedule, and if not for some blatant home cooking would have 2 losses already.

***** O$Uck, they lost, in the Crapshoe, to VT!!! Yes VT!!! Fattaweenie Alfredo even beat VT in their own stadium.

Just invite Terry Porter to dinner tommorow, okay?

This right here. FSU won the acc. OSU lost at home badly to a team that finished bottom half of coastal division.
It's body of work. Had OSU lost to vt last game we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The only discussion should be TCU or Baylor. And Baylor beat TCU but we all know how that usually works out

TCU got jobbed by the refs against Baylor.

 

[Cribby]

IMO Ohio St is in, they were really banged up on the ol and had a true Fr starting , lost a Heisman candidate to injury and was implementing a new D scheme. Now they've ran off twelve straight , lost another qb and seem to look even better. They're waxing people.

I hate osu and Meyer but that's one team I wouldn't want to play.

 

[dforgie]

IMO Ohio St is in, they were really banged up on the ol and had a true Fr starting , lost a Heisman candidate to injury and was implementing a new D scheme. Now they've ran off twelve straight , lost another qb and seem to look even better. They're waxing people.

I hate osu and Meyer but that's one team I wouldn't want to play.

THE problem with this argument, was OSU gave up 35 point to VT. U referenced their QB and O-Line. OSU has really beat 1 decent team all year. MSU.

 

[Canes2082]

OSU has a loss.

FSU does not.

FSU would have two losses with competent referees. They have barely beaten every team they play, and are only remotely competitive b/c they covered up a rape, and then delayed the title IX hearing to make sure their star player remained eligible. They have no business being allowed in a title game. They played a joke schedule and barely scraped by.

I hate fsu but don't discredit thier schedule. They played 3 OOC teams in the power 5...

 

[Cribby]

IMO Ohio St is in, they were really banged up on the ol and had a true Fr starting , lost a Heisman candidate to injury and was implementing a new D scheme. Now they've ran off twelve straight , lost another qb and seem to look even better. They're waxing people.

I hate osu and Meyer but that's one team I wouldn't want to play.

THE problem with this argument, was OSU gave up 35 point to VT. U referenced their QB and O-Line. OSU has really beat 1 decent team all year. MSU.

Wisconsin is a good team and it was 59-0.

IMO osu is way more complete today than tcu or Baylor. It will also eliminate the head to head crap with big 12.

The Big 12 did this to themselves, they talked all off season about playing entire conference schedule will decide " one true champion". Head to head will be tie breaker.

When they thought they could squeeze two teams in ,they changed their tone , started the " co champion " bs.

If they had a championship game they'd got one in, now they looked f'd .

 

[Hurricanemike32]

OSU has a loss.

FSU does not.

FSU would have two losses with competent referees. They have barely beaten every team they play, and are only remotely competitive b/c they covered up a rape, and then delayed the title IX hearing to make sure their star player remained eligible. They have no business being allowed in a title game. They played a joke schedule and barely scraped by.

Did OSU benefit from any bad calls this season?

 

[Hurricanemike32]

Ervin Maya's got em coached up

They lost to a 5 loss V Tech team...at home.

If it was a court case I'd drop the mic and walk way right after that statement.

Bottom line it SHOULD be TCU...but God knows "TCU' isn't **** for ratings and doesn't have tradition. That's the ONLY reason this is even a discussion.

Let's do this...suppose Miami was in TCU's exact position right now...we would ALL be screaming bloody murder.

TCU is in the 1-3 range for me.

Last three are Fsu Baylor and osu. And no, I don't think you can leave an undefeated team out. I'm just positing that they would both beat Fsu, inside of my mind, in a game that will never be played.

Well as much as I hate to say it FSU should be #1...and the fact that is even being debated right now really makes me question the entire ****ing logic of the committee and the system in general.

If Miami was in FSU's shoes, an undefeated defending champ....again...we would ALL be screaming bloody murder.

Bottom line OSU shouldn't even be in the discussion.

Agree. We should all prepare ourselves, this will be fsu's 4th national championship, and they will have another one before we ever begin to think about winning the coastal. Just prepare, I am.

I agree that FSU definitely should be in but I think that it is far from a foregone conclusion that FSU wins a title this year. In fact I would be shocked if they did.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

If OSU gets in the new system has failed. Plain and simple.

There's no universe where their body of work is better than TCU's for the entire season. I'll say it again...if you remove the initials "TCU" and replace it with one of the well known, high profile, long historied programs like USC, Michigan, Texas, or Notre Dame....OSU wouldn't even be in the discussion right now.

Many of you are NOT looking at this from the angle of what's right and what's best for college football. I'll repeat myself again...if we (Miami) were in TCU's shoes we'd all be organizing a raid on many of the homes of the committee members.

 

[ThomasM]

Didn't the committee say they took injuries into account? Well, OSU losing their starting QB right before the season more than likely lead to their loss to VT. For them to bounce back the way they did, and winning the title game after their backup QB got hurt, the WAY they won it... It will carry some weight. Spare me the undefeated crap. BYU was undefeated and won a title, and what FSU has done this year with their schedule is mighty unimpressive. Also, they should NOT be undefeated. When refs weren't giving them games, teams like Miami and Clemson were choking them away.

The precedent has been set. One loss teams have jumped FSU due to their poor performances. Well, OSU just laid a really, really big butt kicking on a similarly ranked team that FSU just struggled with. Last impression is very important, and FSU just failed BIG time. If they are going to drop FSU for poor performances, and reward teams for good ones, FSU is in trouble.

Now, I think FSU was dropped to #4 for one reason. To play Alabama in the first round and get huge ratings. They SHOULD be dropped. Spare me the defending champs BS. This is college football, and the trophy doesn't leave the case. They aren't defending crap. This isn't boxing.

 

[CaneFan79]

OSU has a loss.

FSU does not.

FSU would have two losses with competent referees. They have barely beaten every team they play, and are only remotely competitive b/c they covered up a rape, and then delayed the title IX hearing to make sure their star player remained eligible. They have no business being allowed in a title game. They played a joke schedule and barely scraped by.

Did OSU benefit from any bad calls this season?

By "Bad Calls," do you mean benefit from biased officiating influenced by conference officials wanting to get at least one team into the BCS and now the CFP? Yes, the BIG has it's versions of Uncle Tom Ron Cherry and Pat "I'll even sell myself" Garvey; all the conferances now follow the $EC model of officiating: The school with the best chance of making the postseason gets the calls, followed by traditional favorites receiving more latitude. Heck, the $EC probably learned it from watching ACC basketball games.

 

[CaneFan79]

Didn't the committee say they took injuries into account? Well, OSU losing their starting QB right before the season more than likely lead to their loss to VT. For them to bounce back the way they did, and winning the title game after their backup QB got hurt, the WAY they won it... It will carry some weight. Spare me the undefeated crap. BYU was undefeated and won a title, and what FSU has done this year with their schedule is mighty unimpressive. Also, they should NOT be undefeated. When refs weren't giving them games, teams like Miami and Clemson were choking them away.

The precedent has been set. One loss teams have jumped FSU due to their poor performances. Well, OSU just laid a really, really big butt kicking on a similarly ranked team that FSU just struggled with. Last impression is very important, and FSU just failed BIG time. If they are going to drop FSU for poor performances, and reward teams for good ones, FSU is in trouble.

Now, I think FSU was dropped to #4 for one reason. To play Alabama in the first round and get huge ratings. They SHOULD be dropped. Spare me the defending champs BS. This is college football, and the trophy doesn't leave the case. They aren't defending crap. This isn't boxing.

Is that you $uckeyestreit? A Nashville IP? Lets look at that O$Uck "Body of Work:"

A "Road" win "at" Navy, where it was mostly $ucknut fans (played in Baltimore)

A Home LOSS, in the Crapshoe, against VT. O$Uck has all the $$$ to recruit multiple blue chip QBs, the new QB excuse doesn't fly, especially since even Fattaweenie Alfredo's True Freshman QB beat VT in Blacksburg.

A Home win against Kent State, a school more known for a National Guard confrontation in 1970 than anything football related

A Home win against Cincinnati, a team Fattaweenie Alfredo also put 50+ on

A Road win against Maryland, that always dominate football powerhouse (!), May again have been just as many $Ucknut fans as Turtle fans

A Home win against Rutgers, another dominate football powerhouse (!!)

An OT Road win against sanctioned Pedo State, gifted by BIG officials who don't even throw flags seconds AFTER the play clock hits "00"

A Home win against Illinois...Didn't realize they even still had a football team

A Road Win against MSU. Too bad MSU's OOC slate was cupcakes with the exception of Nike U, who they lost to by double digits, Narduzzi or not...

A Road Win against Minnesota, a team that loss to TCU. No help there...

A Home win against Indiana...What BIG team who O$Uck played has beaten a Power 5 OOC? Only one, INDIANA, who beat Missouri. Yep, The $uckeyes need football powerhouse INDIANA to bolster their resume

A Home Win against now Hokeless Michigan

A win in Indy against a Wisconsin team who previously lost to LSU AND Northwestern...What is the excuse, the Badgers don't play against teams with Purple as a color?

Sorry Kirk, I mean Thomas, I can't stand F$U, but also can't stand O$Uck...In a battle between intensely disliked team's resumes, F$U wins by not losing this year.

 

[Miami82]

If OSU gets in the new system has failed. Plain and simple.

There's no universe where their body of work is better than TCU's for the entire season. I'll say it again...if you remove the initials "TCU" and replace it with one of the well known, high profile, long historied programs like USC, Michigan, Texas, or Notre Dame....OSU wouldn't even be in the discussion right now.

Many of you are NOT looking at this from the angle of what's right and what's best for college football. I'll repeat myself again...if we (Miami) were in TCU's shoes we'd all be organizing a raid on many of the homes of the committee members.

Agreed.

How anyone is saying oswho is better than the noles are delusional. OSwho beat a 1 dimensional team in whisky. Hardly a great feat.

Noles won everyone of their games this year.

 

[Bennubird]

Whatever. I'm just ****ed my team isn't in the conversation because our coach sucks.

 

[Chuckles]

I watched both games last night and the Buckeyes looked better than the Noles. It would be interesting to see if they could stop the Noles like they did a powerful Wisconsin running game. Until the Noles lose they should retain their #1 ranking.

I would bet that Oregon, Ohio State, and Alabama could all beat FSU, but until they actually play it's not a given. A defense that can control three offensive players not named Winston has an excellent chance to beat them.

 

[Chuckles]

If OSU gets in the new system has failed. Plain and simple.

There's no universe where their body of work is better than TCU's for the entire season. I'll say it again...if you remove the initials "TCU" and replace it with one of the well known, high profile, long historied programs like USC, Michigan, Texas, or Notre Dame....OSU wouldn't even be in the discussion right now.

Many of you are NOT looking at this from the angle of what's right and what's best for college football. I'll repeat myself again...if we (Miami) were in TCU's shoes we'd all be organizing a raid on many of the homes of the committee members.

Agreed.

How anyone is saying oswho is better than the noles are delusional. OSwho beat a 1 dimensional team in whisky. Hardly a great feat.

Noles won everyone of their games this year.

Noles barely beat a one dimensional team last night, it is delusional to not see that. OSU stomped a one-dimensional team. They did it with a third backup QB (something many on this board believe is impossible).

I don't take any credit away from the Noles winning every one of their games, just disagreeing with the logic in your premise.