Oregon/Nike/Phil Knight

They’re taking what Lambert did and putting it on a 10X scale it seems like to me.

Knight and Nike getting involved with college athletes and NIL isn’t good news for many schools. How long until teams with Nike contracts get ****ed off though? Could be something to watch out for
it'll just be the battle of the shoe brands and maybe sports drink wars..... Nike vs. Adidas legally buying HS athletes to schools of their choice... Gatorade vs. Powerade buying kids for schools they have contracts with..... BANG energy girls being pimped out to their schools... endless
 
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Hi guys, it’s me again.

One day, one of these days ya’ll will listen to ur boy. Again, this NIL situation is not a good thing for us. Why did I say that? B/c:

1. The NCAA was not proactive, setting no parameters.

2. Programs w/ big boosters could now openly pay recruits, using the NIL as a gaping loop hole.

3. The NIL is about name, image, and likeness, meaning marketing. In order to truly benefit, u have to be marketable regardless of what “media market” u’re in.

I was trying to give you a warning before all of this came to fruition, but some prominent posters were arguing to the contrary. I wasn’t being a Debby Downer, was literally having conversations w/ some of my clients who r in the sports world & looking at it from a professional sports lens, guys who get the biggest push are those who are marketable, and teams that are most marketable by what they do on the field/court.

If we were the Canes of the 80’s - early 2000’s as the current NIL is currently “constructed”, we would have zero issues. We would be the #1 NIL destination, but not now.

Anyone with the slightest bit of foresight knew NIL was checkmate
 
Phil Knight's no longer the CEO of Nike, and I believe that there's already a rule about apparel sponsors of respective Colleges & Universities being prohibited from the NIL game.
Correct, he’s no longer the CEO but he’s still Chairman Emeritus of Nike
 
it'll just be the battle of the shoe brands and maybe sports drink wars..... Nike vs. Adidas legally buying HS athletes to schools of their choice... Gatorade vs. Powerade buying kids for schools they have contracts with..... BANG energy girls being pimped out to their schools... endless

Hmmmmm, I'm wondering, can a kid that goes to an Adidas school sign an NIL deal with Nike? Ditto with a kid that goes to a Gatorade or Powerade school...
 
it'll just be the battle of the shoe brands and maybe sports drink wars..... Nike vs. Adidas legally buying HS athletes to schools of their choice... Gatorade vs. Powerade buying kids for schools they have contracts with..... BANG energy girls being pimped out to their schools... endless
This war was already going on via The AAU circuits. As a matter of fact, the reason some of Adidas employees got in trouble was b/c of that very fact. What the NIL has allowed is Pandora’s box to be completely open. Just read a youngin in HS is already taking bids for his endorsement services, and believe he’s skipping college & will sign w/ Puma.

Again, it’s going to be a wild-wild west out here. The only reason I was against The NIL was b/c of the team I root for. While we’re celebrating kids making $5000 here, kids at the bigger schools r cashing out 4 - 7 figure deals.
 
Hi guys, it’s me again.

One day, one of these days ya’ll will listen to ur boy. Again, this NIL situation is not a good thing for us. Why did I say that? B/c:

1. The NCAA was not proactive, setting no parameters.

2. Programs w/ big boosters could now openly pay recruits, using the NIL as a gaping loop hole.

3. The NIL is about name, image, and likeness, meaning marketing. In order to truly benefit, u have to be marketable regardless of what “media market” u’re in.

I was trying to give you a warning before all of this came to fruition, but some prominent posters were arguing to the contrary. I wasn’t being a Debby Downer, was literally having conversations w/ some of my clients who r in the sports world & looking at it from a professional sports lens, guys who get the biggest push are those who are marketable, and teams that are most marketable by what they do on the field/court.

If we were the Canes of the 80’s - early 2000’s as the current NIL is currently “constructed”, we would have zero issues. We would be the #1 NIL destination, but not now.

The NIL was good for Miami when DeSantis approved of it before any of the other states. When it got approved by the NCAA as a national thing, that luxury went away for Miami.
 
Phil Knight's no longer the CEO of Nike, and I believe that there's already a rule about apparel sponsors of respective Colleges & Universities being prohibited from the NIL game.

There is a rule. Boosters are not allowed to funnel cash from their companies into NIL deals. There is a loophole for them to form these new companies and do it that way. I don't know the details, but I imagine one person can only own a certain % of the company for it to qualify
 
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Hi guys, it’s me again.

One day, one of these days ya’ll will listen to ur boy. Again, this NIL situation is not a good thing for us. Why did I say that? B/c:

1. The NCAA was not proactive, setting no parameters.

2. Programs w/ big boosters could now openly pay recruits, using the NIL as a gaping loop hole.

3. The NIL is about name, image, and likeness, meaning marketing. In order to truly benefit, u have to be marketable regardless of what “media market” u’re in.

I was trying to give you a warning before all of this came to fruition, but some prominent posters were arguing to the contrary. I wasn’t being a Debby Downer, was literally having conversations w/ some of my clients who r in the sports world & looking at it from a professional sports lens, guys who get the biggest push are those who are marketable, and teams that are most marketable by what they do on the field/court.

If we were the Canes of the 80’s - early 2000’s as the current NIL is currently “constructed”, we would have zero issues. We would be the #1 NIL destination, but not now.
Relly:
By being proactive do you mean the NCAA should have set up guidelines by
1. Setting limits that could be allocated towards the NIL by the Sponsors, or
2. Setting parameters that the players need to follow in order to meet their obligations with the sponsors..
It seems like the Wild West our there, until some Schools will have to show some proof of something... to the NCAA.
 
Relly:
By being proactive do you mean the NCAA should have set up guidelines by
1. Setting limits that could be allocated towards the NIL by the Sponsors, or
2. Setting parameters that the players need to follow in order to meet their obligations with the sponsors..
It seems like the Wild West our there, until some Schools will have to show some proof of something... to the NCAA.
Correct.

These muppets were trying to hide behind the guise of amateur athletics, which hasn’t been amateur in quite some time. Instead of setting parameters to benefit the student-athlete, while w/ creating a fair & equitable playing field to still limit what boosters can & can’t do, these cats put their head in the sand. So once the Supreme Court ruled in favor of this, they literally took out a legal pad & made some scratch, ambiguous guidelines that have way, WAY too many loop holes in it.

The arms race have been expedited by 3 folds; guys don’t have to lurk in the shadows anymore.
 
Well, unfortunately that’s the 2nd part that I didn’t want to touch upon: our leadership compared to other schools in regards to athletics.


Being a lifelong Canes fan that did not attend UM, I find it a bit fascinating. In the 80's and early 90's UM leadership did everything they could to disassociate UM from the city of Miami. Now that Miami has become the new Los Angeles, UM leadership tries to market UM as part of the Miami celebrity culture.

Again, I'm curious as to how this will play out. And let me say that Im not well versed in what the NIL rules arebut I have to wonder...

Can The Rock secure a spot in his next movie for a Canes commit? Can a Canes football or baseball player go on Shark Tank and have AROD secure an NIL deal for them? lol
 
Being a lifelong Canes fan that did not attend UM, I find it a bit fascinating. In the 80's and early 90's UM leadership did everything they could to disassociate UM from the city of Miami. Now that Miami has become the new Los Angeles, UM leadership tries to market UM as part of the Miami celebrity culture.

Again, I'm curious as to how this will play out. And let me say that Im not well versed in what the NIL rules arebut I have to wonder...

Can The Rock secure a spot in his next movie for a Canes commit? Can a Canes football or baseball player go on Shark Tank and have AROD secure an NIL deal for them? lol
I’m hoping come this off season, the NCAA will pull their collective heads out their ****s, & come up w/ cohesive parameters on this. It should’ve been regulated to events, commercial appearances, jersey sells, poster sells, etc. w/ a monetary cap across the board. That was the intended purpose (hence Ed O’Bannon sued the NCAA & EA Sports for using his likeness w/o receiving a dime).

Now the reason U had those questions, albeit in gist, was b/c NO ONE KNOWS THE PARAMETERS. In my line of business, it is imperative that all contract discussions are free of ambiguity, and if something is not readily understood, the onus falls upon me to break it down in layman’s terms. W/ this NIL, it’s full of ambiguity, and the big schools or schools w/ active boosters, are fully taking advantage of it which doesn’t bode well for us. I was already kind of iffy on it just from what I was privy too, but w/ the NCAA just putting their hands up on this, I knew it would be all bad.

One last point: being that it’s well documented how we don’t have a single mindset when it comes to Miami athletics, the other thing I was afraid of was how fully vested we would be to take advantage of this. If the bagmen were our biggest obstacle, this would’ve been the perfect opp to schematically utilize boosters to help even the playing field. The problem? We have one booster who is tasked, as a fan, to try to get other boosters to join along AFTER our poor play on the field. All of this should’ve been done in the off season w/ all the hype around us.
 
I’m hoping come this off season, the NCAA will pull their collective heads out their ****s, & come up w/ cohesive parameters on this. It should’ve been regulated to events, commercial appearances, jersey sells, poster sells, etc. w/ a monetary cap across the board. That was the intended purpose (hence Ed O’Bannon sued the NCAA & EA Sports for using his likeness w/o receiving a dime).

Now the reason U had those questions, albeit in gist, was b/c NO ONE KNOWS THE PARAMETERS. In my line of business, it is imperative that all contract discussions are free of ambiguity, and if something is not readily understood, the onus falls upon me to break it down in layman’s terms. W/ this NIL, it’s full of ambiguity, and the big schools or schools w/ active boosters, are fully taking advantage of it which doesn’t bode well for us. I was already kind of iffy on it just from what I was privy too, but w/ the NCAA just putting their hands up on this, I knew it would be all bad.

One last point: being that it’s well documented how we don’t have a single mindset when it comes to Miami athletics, the other thing I was afraid of was how fully vested we would be to take advantage of this. If the bagmen were our biggest obstacle, this would’ve been the perfect opp to schematically utilize boosters to help even the playing field. The problem? We have one booster who is tasked, as a fan, to try to get other boosters to join along AFTER our poor play on the field. All of this should’ve been done in the off season w/ all the hype around us.
Deep Pocket boosters who are actually all in and desperately want their football team to win. Loosely written "guidelines" with exploitable loopholes.

What could possibly go wrong?
 
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This war was already going on via The AAU circuits. As a matter of fact, the reason some of Adidas employees got in trouble was b/c of that very fact. What the NIL has allowed is Pandora’s box to be completely open. Just read a youngin in HS is already taking bids for his endorsement services, and believe he’s skipping college & will sign w/ Puma.

Again, it’s going to be a wild-wild west out here. The only reason I was against The NIL was b/c of the team I root for. While we’re celebrating kids making $5000 here, kids at the bigger schools r cashing out 4 - 7 figure deals.


Just like vacating weed convictions, I'm hoping that the NCAA will ret-con the Hoops Cloud and give Miami back all the basketball scholarships that we lost and/or couldn't give away.
 
Being a lifelong Canes fan that did not attend UM, I find it a bit fascinating. In the 80's and early 90's UM leadership did everything they could to disassociate UM from the city of Miami. Now that Miami has become the new Los Angeles, UM leadership tries to market UM as part of the Miami celebrity culture.


In fairness, there is a lot of "Miami confusion" out there. Lots of people can't differentiate between Miami and Miami Beach and Metro-Dade (which is way bigger than the City of Miami).

But, yeah, when Miami was known for Miami Vice and drugs and murders and whatnot, UM did try to steer clear. It's a tough needle to thread sometimes.
 
Being a lifelong Canes fan that did not attend UM, I find it a bit fascinating. In the 80's and early 90's UM leadership did everything they could to disassociate UM from the city of Miami. Now that Miami has become the new Los Angeles, UM leadership tries to market UM as part of the Miami celebrity culture.

Again, I'm curious as to how this will play out. And let me say that Im not well versed in what the NIL rules arebut I have to wonder...

Can The Rock secure a spot in his next movie for a Canes commit? Can a Canes football or baseball player go on Shark Tank and have AROD secure an NIL deal for them? lol
Hey SFbay:
The Rock I am not worried about....he is Cane through and through. Markets great...........
A Rod on the other hand needs the pub of JLo and the eye candy on Shark Tank to strike a note, but the $$$$$$$$'s not too sure of that...........good but not great...
 
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