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Opt Outs in the ACC

Other than the playoff games, the bowls are now a total joke. Pretty meaningless and outcomes are not indicative of the team because of the opt outs . . . And then, the clowns don't find a bowl spot for Army.
 
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JBCanes-NC said:
Why, just to get kids to play? There’s 2 national title worthy teams. Clemson and Bama. The other 2 teams are just there to get beat down.
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My comment was directed towards someone who said that bowls are worthless. I agreed.

My response to his comment on the worthlessness of the bowls has very little to do with "getting kids to play", but it is pretty obvious that three dozen bowl games that MEAN NOTHING are not exactly creating motivation. Players have started to figure out that they have been monetarily exploited for 100 years, and they are getting tired of it, particularly when they are one useless game away from making it to the NFL.

Making all of the post-season games actually count might just be a step in the right direction.

And the nonsense of "only Clemson and Alabama are worthy" is just horsesh!te.

Whoever wins a 16-team playoff would be pretty **** worthy of the national title, and if that happened to be Clemson or Alabama, so be it.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Use reading comp.

My comment was directed towards someone who said that bowls are worthless. I agreed.

My response to his comment on the worthlessness of the bowls has very little to do with "getting kids to play", but it is pretty obvious that three dozen bowl games that MEAN NOTHING are not exactly creating motivation. Players have started to figure out that they have been monetarily exploited for 100 years, and they are getting tired of it, particularly when they are one useless game away from making it to the NFL.

Making all of the post-season games actually count might just be a step in the right direction.

And the nonsense of "only Clemson and Alabama are worthy" is just horsesh!te.

Whoever wins a 16-team playoff would be pretty **** worthy of the national title, and if that happened to be Clemson or Alabama, so be it.
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8 and 16 is pointless. There’s 2-3 teams that can win a natty every year.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Use reading comp.

My comment was directed towards someone who said that bowls are worthless. I agreed.

My response to his comment on the worthlessness of the bowls has very little to do with "getting kids to play", but it is pretty obvious that three dozen bowl games that MEAN NOTHING are not exactly creating motivation. Players have started to figure out that they have been monetarily exploited for 100 years, and they are getting tired of it, particularly when they are one useless game away from making it to the NFL.

Making all of the post-season games actually count might just be a step in the right direction.

And the nonsense of "only Clemson and Alabama are worthy" is just horsesh!te.

Whoever wins a 16-team playoff would be pretty **** worthy of the national title, and if that happened to be Clemson or Alabama, so be it.
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I agree. If there is a tournament style rather than 100000 bowls, there will be something to play for. you guys say why doesn't bama and clemsn have this issue? its bc they're playing for a title. they're playing for something. Kyle Pitts opted out for UF. the ny6 is basically meaningless if you're guaranteed to get to the league. like a poster said, Jake butt tearing his ACL is pretty much why I wouldn't recommend anyone playing the bowl if they're going to the league
 
Bowls are really only for the lower tier schools at this point. I’d expand to 12 teams for the playoff. Put the top three G5 schools in the playoffs, as long as they finish ranked in the top 20 and win the conference. Every P5 champ in and add 4 at large bids.
 
College football is slowly deteriorating. We should all opt out 2021, we KNOW who are the 4 TEAMS next year. They need to fix this soon cause i won't be watching. THANKS for the NFL
 
To me, bowl games allow time to get some young guys extra practice reps and snaps in the game. If kids are going pro no need to put yourself in a spot to get hurt.
 
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JBCanes-NC said:
8 and 16 is pointless. There’s 2-3 teams that can win a natty every year.
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Bull. ****e. Maybe under the retarded non-heterosexual rules that currently exist, where only 4 teams make it. Changing the rules would mean that any of 16 teams could win.

And it's not pointless. It would be teams playing games that actually matter, instead of worthless bowl games. Real drama, not manufactured "5th team in the Big 10 vs. 6th team in the SEC" contractual obligation nonsense.

And if you don't think the #16 ranked team in college football can beat the #1 ranked team, you haven't been watching college football for the past 40 years.

I realize that MOST OF THE TIME, the winner would come from among the top 4 teams. But I can almost guarantee you that the Final Four will rarely (if ever) be made up of only the four highest-ranked teams from the regular season.
 
I've been in favor of 8 or 16 for a long time, mostly because I enjoy as many high-stakes CFB games as I can get.

But let's be real, there were probably only 3 teams deserving of making a playoff this year. And that's almost every year. You have true cream of the crop at spots 1 or 2, and maybe 3, and then you're trying to find the shiniest ****.
 
hoops156 said:
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I agree. If there is a tournament style rather than 100000 bowls, there will be something to play for. you guys say why doesn't bama and clemsn have this issue? its bc they're playing for a title. they're playing for something. Kyle Pitts opted out for UF. the ny6 is basically meaningless if you're guaranteed to get to the league. like a poster said, Jake butt tearing his ACL is pretty much why I wouldn't recommend anyone playing the bowl if they're going to the league
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Yeah, I'm not sure why people can't comprehend the difference in motivation between an actual playoff system and three-dozen worthless bowl games that mean nothing to anyone.

Lots of "never played organized football in their lives" guys who like to yammer on about how these kids should risk their health and future football careers in a meaningless bowl game. Or pride. Or to "not let their teammates down". Or some other stupid theme from "Rudy".

Imagine if everyone graduating from law school was asked to spend their final summer NOT studying for the bar, but doing free legal work that would make a ton of money for a law firm. And this free legal work would be meaningless to the graduating law students, it would not help them get a better job or anything. And that a certain percentage of all of those graduating law students, while working for free, were going to suffer a brain injury that would prevent them from ever working as a lawyer. Who would sign up for that, just for pride, or to help their law school attain a higher ranking?
 
HighSeas said:
Carter on the Bucs plz @brock @plantcity3
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Would be a major upgrade over Fournette running into the back of linemans and missing huge holes and I don’t think even McCoy knows where he is going once he gets the ball. It’s like he is scared of a defender breathing on him. Meanwhile, Vaughn trips over his own feet as soon as he gets the ball. He still has hope though
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I've been in favor of 8 or 16 for a long time, mostly because I enjoy as many high-stakes CFB games as I can get.

But let's be real, there were probably only 3 teams deserving of making a playoff this year. And that's almost every year. You have true cream of the crop at spots 1 or 2, and maybe 3, and then you're trying to find the shiniest ****.
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The question of "deserving" is based solely on the way that the system has been set up for decades. Until recently, we didn't even seriously consider more than 2 teams as "playing for the title".

But if you made it a 16-team tournament, then "deserving" becomes "the team that wins all 4 games".

Should we take away the Marlins' championships, because they were a wild card? Were they "undeserving"?

We allow 68 teams in the NCAA Tournament. The ratings are ASTRONOMICAL. People watch, people care. And, sure, the winner has NEVER come from beyond the Top 32 teams (Villanova was an 8 seed in the 1985 tournament).

It is unfathomable that some people are making a COMPLETELY UNIQUE argument for Division I-A football, that literally applies to NO OTHER SPORT like basketball or baseball (or even football) at any high school, collegiate, or professional level.

Somehow, there are only 2-3 "deserving" Division I-A football teams, but in EVERY OTHER SPORT (even football) the winner comes from (approximately and usually) the Top 16 teams? Ridiculous.

The very fact that people will watch even a 1 v. 16 game in the NCAA Tournament is proof that people don't just care about the "2-3 deserving teams", they will even root for a 16 seed to knock off a 1 seed (unbelievably rare) in order to see a great game. People will watch 68 teams, not just "my own alma mater".
 
JBCanes-NC said:
Why, just to get kids to play? There’s 2 national title worthy teams. Clemson and Bama. The other 2 teams are just there to get beat down.
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I may be blind but Florida could have beaten Bama. Maybe the game Saturday was a replay from a game played in the 1990's or something but I didn't see the ole ball coach.

Also, allows teams who stumble early even with two losses to get hot and get a shot.
 
Mr. Dynasty1 said:
It’s wack. College football is quickly going down the tube
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No, it's just a different dynamic that we better get use to. It's stresses the need to get younger players game reps during the regular see season because they will see reps in the bowl game.

The strategy moving forward should be to ensure redshirt candidates have that 4th game available for the bowl game and get them game reps on the other 3. That's where we're at.
 
CaneDawgCrew said:
I may be blind but Florida could have beaten Bama. Maybe the game Saturday was a replay from a game played in the 1990's or something but I didn't see the ole ball coach.

Also, allows teams who stumble early even with two losses to get hot and get a shot.
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florida was down 18 at half and got back into it late. Bama still moved the ball at will when they wanted to
 
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