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Just call a simple game, stick to the run, and play field position. Their defense is good but they can be beat. They do not create a lot of turnovers nor a lot of pressure. Carson and CJ can have a good game against this defense, they look like Notre Dame to me.
 
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WE HAVE ALL SEEN BECK GET SHOOK AND ITS NOT GOOD …THE PROBLEM IS THE ENTIRE WORLD KNOWS HE’S AS MOBILE AS THE TITANIC, HE STANDS LIKE A STATUE IN THE POCKET AND TRIES TO AVOID CONTACT LIKE IT’S AN EX-GIRLFRIEND …ON THE FLIP, HIS EFFICIENCY IN THE “HURRY UP” MAKES UP FOR A LOT OF THIS…
 
Cribby said:
I agree that the wr’s getting separation is key but reading coverage is difficult when you don’t know if it’s cover 8,6,4 or 2 and it all looks the same pre snap. Any coverage can be undone but can it be undone if the qb is confused by what he’s seeing pre snap.? Thinking it’s 4 deep when one side is that and the other is actually cover 2 ( cover 6). Just that second of doubt or patting the ball leads to a sack or turnover. Which has given Beck fits for years.
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I mostly agree with what you’re saying, with one small clarification. Quarterbacks don’t really throw to coverages, they throw to space and leverage. At the college level especially, concepts are built with answers so the QB doesn’t have to perfectly diagnose Cover 2, 4, 6, or 8 in real time. If a defender loses leverage or spacing, the ball should be out.

Pre snap coverage ID has value, but more as a tool than a requirement. It helps set protection, anticipate your primary, and know where your alerts or hots are. Post snap, it’s less about labeling the coverage and more about confirming rules. You’re not thinking “this is Cover 6,” you’re seeing a safety widen, a curl defender sink, and knowing where the window is.

Where Beck has struggled isn’t that defenses disguise coverages. Everyone disguises coverages. His issue has been forcing throws instead of taking a few yards with his feet or throwing the ball away. Forcing throws is dangerous because it turns neutral plays into negative ones. A five yard scramble or an incompletion keeps you on schedule. A forced throw invites tipped balls, interceptions, and short fields for the defense.

A lot of that comes from trying to make a play instead of taking what the defense gives you. When a quarterback feels pressure to stay on schedule, convert third downs, or answer after a bad series, they start believing every play has to be a completion. That’s when patience disappears and risk goes up.

The irony is that taking the boring play actually makes the explosive ones come later. When you consistently live to the next down, defenses loosen, windows widen, and the game slows back down.
 
Beck has seen his share of good D ⏸️ at Georgia in games and practices. I think he'll be okay against OSU if our OL can do their job. Does anyone know Carson's W/L record in indoor games?
 
CityboyCanes4life82 said:
I mostly agree with what you’re saying, with one small clarification. Quarterbacks don’t really throw to coverages, they throw to space and leverage. At the college level especially, concepts are built with answers so the QB doesn’t have to perfectly diagnose Cover 2, 4, 6, or 8 in real time. If a defender loses leverage or spacing, the ball should be out.

Pre snap coverage ID has value, but more as a tool than a requirement. It helps set protection, anticipate your primary, and know where your alerts or hots are. Post snap, it’s less about labeling the coverage and more about confirming rules. You’re not thinking “this is Cover 6,” you’re seeing a safety widen, a curl defender sink, and knowing where the window is.

Where Beck has struggled isn’t that defenses disguise coverages. Everyone disguises coverages. His issue has been forcing throws instead of taking a few yards with his feet or throwing the ball away. Forcing throws is dangerous because it turns neutral plays into negative ones. A five yard scramble or an incompletion keeps you on schedule. A forced throw invites tipped balls, interceptions, and short fields for the defense.

A lot of that comes from trying to make a play instead of taking what the defense gives you. When a quarterback feels pressure to stay on schedule, convert third downs, or answer after a bad series, they start believing every play has to be a completion. That’s when patience disappears and risk goes up.

The irony is that taking the boring play actually makes the explosive ones come later. When you consistently live to the next down, defenses loosen, windows widen, and the game slows back down.
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Forcing throws maybe he thinks it’s one coverage when it’s not. That’s why most picks happen. When I played things were different. Back then then qb was always asked what did you see ? What was the coverage? Then went over and over that on film. These days things are very dumbed down . With a lot of pre determined, half field read throws. Qb’s now are nowhere near as good with the brain game of Qb. That’s why people were so blown away by what Rivers was doing Monday , pre and post snap. That’s how quarterbacking used to be. There was as much going on pre snap than post.

It’s even worst at the HS level, a lot of these kids are just throwing where they’re told to. Pre determined . They don’t even know why they’re throwing there or the purpose of the concept . Coaching on all levels sucks and the qb play reflects it . Another reason why the scoring has slowed down.

Back to Beck he tends to get baited by coverage. Last year at UGA he threw a pick in cover 2. When the flat defender left the flat and dropped back to pick of a shot between him and the safety. Beck as a veteran qb should’ve known there’s nothing in the concept to hold that flat defender and dropping into throwing lane was possible. So yes he knew the coverage but made the wrong read.
 
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Cribby said:
Before I get into this, let me preface by saying I think our DL has an advantage and can cause chaos, especially if we keep OSU behind the chains. As for our OL vs. their DL, that’s a draw. Now, their secondary and scheme versus our QB/offense is where things get concerning. Matt Patricia is from the Belichick tree, so he’s going to take away your strength and force you to win with your weakness—like making a righty go left in basketball.

You won’t see nearly as much confusion or creativity with blitzing as A&M, but the confusion will be in the secondary. They’ll show Cover 8, Cover 6, Cover 4, and Cover 2, disguising one as another, and also use combo coverages. This is exactly what Beck struggles with: coming off the first read or not trusting what his eyes see. When the picture starts changing, Beck tends to get confused or throw picks.

Getting back to winning with your weakness—and being a Belichick protégé—I’d expect him to use a number-two corner on MT with some help over the top, maybe a bracket, then put the top cover guy on somebody like Daniels with no help. It makes things confusing for a DC trying to scheme around stopping a slot guy, since that player can be moved around, you never know where he’ll align, and he’s often off the LOS. That makes it harder to jam or disrupt the release.

The game will come down to Beck and the passing game, plain and simple. We won’t be able to line up and maul them like an undersized A&M defense. We just need to run enough to keep them off balance—at least get the attempts. Unlike @Hurricane23, I don’t like this matchup as much as the previous game, but I still see his point. There are enough areas where we have advantages, and IMO this game is very winnable. Just don’t beat ourselves—which is easier said than done.
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Perfectly sensible post. Could not have said it better myself
 
Fly1 said:
Short to Intermediate Passing Game

I can’t stress this enough. If we can’t throw a forward pass for a 5-12 yard gain with any kind of consistency we are in trouble. I’m not talking about any bubble screens to Mali where everybody and their brother knows he’s getting the ball 4 yards behind the LOS and we get maybe 1 yard.

A bunch of 3 and outs where we can’t pass isn’t gonna cut it. We need Beck and the receivers to deliver 250+ yards in the passing game. We’ll need even more if we get stuck running between the guards for 1-3 yards a carry. Hopefully, after the aTm game, we’ve found a better way to use the oline the the RBs better
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Is Miami ever going to pump fake the screen and take a shot? They haven’t attempted that all year. O$U will eat up those goofy *** screens that Dawson runs over and over and over again. You have to throw a wrinkle in there at some point
 
I just dont see this offense scoring enough to win.

They would need a couple explosives to get some TD’s in the board. They aren’t going to be able to drive 10-15 plays methodically down the field for multiple TD’s against this defense.

Maybe Mali can return a punt or defense get some turnovers to give them short fields to help get some points. 17pts might be a stretch next week.
 
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The down side of Just getting the ball out fast no matter what is not allowing for route patterns enough time to develop . It has to be a balance
 
Sometimes I think we over think scenarios in these situations. OSU is a darn good team across the board with some areas stronger than others. But so are we. Just like the Aggies I believe if we can get our boys playing with smarts and confidence and our strength makes plays when needed, such as fitz getting interceptions in key moments and solid tackling, DL being disruptive. We can win the game. I don't see rocket 🚀 science there. Play with confidence, win your one to one battles. Do your job. They are human and susceptible to the OH **** feeling too. Leads to mistakes and loss of confidence. Then you take their soul. Great canes made that routine. Man was is it fun to watch
 
BeastMode said:
I just dont see this offense scoring enough to win.

They would need a couple explosives to get some TD’s in the board. They aren’t going to be able to drive 10-15 plays methodically down the field for multiple TD’s against this defense.

Maybe Mali can return a punt or defense get some turnovers to give them short fields to help get some points. 17pts might be a stretch next week.
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We’ll have to be **** near perfect on offense or the defense set us up for points . Driving the entire field against this d will be tough. We can’t have penalties or sacks
 
BeastMode said:
Is Miami ever going to pump fake the screen and take a shot? They haven’t attempted that all year. O$U will eat up those goofy *** screens that Dawson runs over and over and over again. You have to throw a wrinkle in there at some point
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You can’t run that out of those formations just like we can’t run outside. 🤦🤣
 
I think people put too much into draft hype and not results on the football field. These 2 teams are statistically very close. They finished with the 16th offense, compared to our 20th. They are 1st in defense and we are 5th. Sure they've got the headline talent advantage at the skill spots, but we've got dudes knocking themselves out for the W. Pitt is basically statistically tied with them on offense and we know what happened. We have an advantage on both lines. We also have a serial killer as DC.

We can take these fools.
 
ShadowSpring said:
I think people put too much into draft hype and not results on the football field. These 2 teams are statistically very close. They finished with the 16th offense, compared to our 20th. They are 1st in defense and we are 5th. Sure they've got the headline talent advantage at the skill spots, but we've got dudes knocking themselves out for the W. Pitt is basically statistically tied with them on offense and we know what happened. We have an advantage on both lines. We also have a serial killer as DC.

We can take these fools.
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People are looking at the 2 losses to SMU and UL using them as this big separation between us when its really not..u can look at how each team play v their best opponents to realize they are very close. I think we can and will run the ball on them. Whatever problems they pose for us, we pose for them as well except they have Big body WRs who they may chuck the ball up to. May also be for Bryce to get more picks.
 
Someone’s gotta be our Charlie Becker downfield to win it.

If we lose let’s play bal, 50/50 to Daniel’s, back shoulders to Moore. Marion or Jojo with a step on the corner in single high.

If our D plays like Indianas did (shut Ohio State out the last three quarters) it won’t take THAT much to get it done. Just 3-4 chunk plays and some creative red zone scheme imo
 
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Side note, mario needs to be up the sideline refs *** all game. Ohio St’s DBs are HANDSY!! They will give 45-60 free yards each half.
 
E1k said:
Two names on offense: Cj Daniels & Brockermeyer

Two names on defense: Toure and whoever is on tate

We need daniels to make some 50/50 plays down the field, 3rd down and in the redzone. Patricia is from the belichick tree im almost 100% sure the entire gameplan will be around stopping Toney, their plan is usually always to take away your main guy. Brackets, and calls for wherever he lines up on the field, dawson needs to leverage that
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We’re on the same page. We will need special teams plays and turnovers so we can win the field position battle to give the offense favorable situations. Beck just has to play clean, don’t turn it over or take unnecessary sacks and we should be good
 
One thing Beck does that can get overlooked is trust his receivers. He will throw you a catchable jump ball or back shoulder throw if you’re in 1 on 1 coverage. We’re going to need a big game from CJ Daniels. It would be great for Jojo Trader to show up because he can win contested catches in single coverage. We don’t need someone to have like 9 catches for 130 yards but we need someone on the outside to stress them enough to where they can’t just man up with one dude and not worry about it. This isn’t a “we need to score 30 to win type of game” but if we’re going to get more than the 10 we got last week, we’re going to need help on the outside.
 
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