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Which of the Olineman on the roster currently do you think were a mistake to sign because they will never be good enough to even contribute as rotation players and they are taking up a scholarship?

Clear Mistakes: Dykstra (Kennedy-although he is no longer on team due to graduation)

Possible Mistakes: Herbert and Hillery

Do you guys think either Herbert or Hillery will ever be rotational contributor at least?
 
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Canesfreak2020 said:
Which of the Olineman on the roster currently do you think were a mistake to sign because they will never be good enough to even contribute as rotation players and they are taking up a scholarship?

Clear Mistakes: Dykstra (Kennedy-although he is no longer on team due to graduation)

Possible Mistakes: Herbert and Hillery

Do you guys think either Herbert or Hillery will ever be rotational contributor at least?
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I think all four of those guys were bad mistakes. I hope Herbert and/or Hillery
Could be rotational but i have my doubts.
 
JITOCANE said:
I think all four of those guys were bad mistakes. I hope Herbert and/or Hillery
Could be rotational but i have my doubts.
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I think your right. We might need to get all three Dykstra, Herbert, and Hillery to transfer out after next season is over in order to free up their scholarships for the 2021 recruiting class. We need to sign at least 4 offensive Linemen in the 2021 recruiting class, so we need to have a good season next year to attract possible OL recruits.
 
Canesfreak2020 said:
Which of the Olineman on the roster currently do you think were a mistake to sign because they will never be good enough to even contribute as rotation players and they are taking up a scholarship?

Clear Mistakes: Dykstra (Kennedy-although he is no longer on team due to graduation)

Possible Mistakes: Herbert and Hillery

Do you guys think either Herbert or Hillery will ever be rotational contributor at least?
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No
 
Canesfreak2020 said:
Which of the Olineman on the roster currently do you think were a mistake to sign because they will never be good enough to even contribute as rotation players and they are taking up a scholarship?

Clear Mistakes: Dykstra (Kennedy-although he is no longer on team due to graduation)

Possible Mistakes: Herbert and Hillery

Do you guys think either Herbert or Hillery will ever be rotational contributor at least?
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When you in rebuild mode, but also this is the one mistake made by coach richt, going with searel's over coach kehoe, who got the job done in recruiting and knew what he was looking for, but more importantly, had the credibilty!
 
Does not seem plausible that two 4 star lineman are not even serviceable. Both the coaches and the recruiting sites somehow messed up big time on both of these guys. Maybe a new coach can come in and get something out of them. But when Hillery came in for the Duke game it was beyond bad.
 
Never understood what happened with Kennedy. Lots of schools were after him. Auburn, Oklahoma, Miami.... Guess the competition he played against made him look good.
 
Both Golden and Richt had too many misses on ter o-line. Herbert and Reed were highly regarded prospects who have not panned out. Herbert can't handle speed rushers and Reed couldn't beat out Clark for a starting job. We need better evaluations in this area and get on as many good prospects as possible early. I'm hoping we can add some grad transfers or portal players for next season.
 
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Herbert and Hillary have been severely corched up...so far.

Dykstra and Kennedy should've never been on the roster.
 
edge said:
Does not seem plausible that two 4 star lineman are not even serviceable. Both the coaches and the recruiting sites somehow messed up big time on both of these guys. Maybe a new coach can come in and get something out of them. But when Hillery came in for the Duke game it was beyond bad.
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You are right it looked like he didn't know how to play football against Duke. It is an indictment not just of the player but also how poorly he has been coached.
 
CANEMC said:
Herbert and Hillary have been severely corched up...so far.

Dykstra and Kennedy should've never been on the roster.
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Yeah you could be right. Herbert and Hillary could possibly be salvaged, if we get better coaching in here this year. Dykstra will probably be asked to transfer of next year to free up his scholarship.
 
Too many moving parts.

Better coaching, evaluating, development and weight room work (which comes with better staffs) has the magical effect of players performing well.

A walk-on like Joaquin Gonzalez ended up a 2-time AA here during the Butchie years.

People would laugh that off today on the Canes sites - if we would've taken him as a commit recently.

Other folks may consider Thomas and Hightower as players who underperformed, but I view them as players who could've been really good if we had a proper staff.

I still think Thomas would've been a game breaker with the proper staff. He showed flashes of being as dangerous as just about anyone in the country - just like in that AA game that he played in (and took over).

Not every player during the Howard, Jimmy, Dennis and Butch years were saints. But they produced.

Canesfreak2020 said:
Which of the Olineman on the roster currently do you think were a mistake to sign because they will never be good enough to even contribute as rotation players and they are taking up a scholarship?

Clear Mistakes: Dykstra (Kennedy-although he is no longer on team due to graduation)

Possible Mistakes: Herbert and Hillery

Do you guys think either Herbert or Hillery will ever be rotational contributor at least?
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edge said:
Does not seem plausible that two 4 star lineman are not even serviceable. Both the coaches and the recruiting sites somehow messed up big time on both of these guys. Maybe a new coach can come in and get something out of them. But when Hillery came in for the Duke game it was beyond bad.
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Do you similar to 4 star Bar Milo?
 
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Canesfreak2020 said:
Which of the Olineman on the roster currently do you think were a mistake to sign because they will never be good enough to even contribute as rotation players and they are taking up a scholarship?

Clear Mistakes: Dykstra (Kennedy-although he is no longer on team due to graduation)

Possible Mistakes: Herbert and Hillery

Do you guys think either Herbert or Hillery will ever be rotational contributor at least?
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No.
 
Calvin said:
When you in rebuild mode, but also this is the one mistake made by coach richt, going with searel's over coach kehoe, who got the job done in recruiting and knew what he was looking for, but more importantly, had the credibilty!
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One of the worst things about Diaz is that he’s causing everybody to forget that Richt sucked too. For God’s sake, Richt was going to make Banda and Patke, who are bad position coaches, co-DCs.

And one of the worst things about Stacey Searles and now Butch Barry is that they’re causing everybody to forget that Kehoe also sucked. Just not as much as Searles and Barry do.
 
Canesfreak2020 said:
Which of the Olineman on the roster currently do you think were a mistake to sign because they will never be good enough to even contribute as rotation players and they are taking up a scholarship?

Clear Mistakes: Dykstra (Kennedy-although he is no longer on team due to graduation)

Possible Mistakes: Herbert and Hillery

Do you guys think either Herbert or Hillery will ever be rotational contributor at least?
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HINDSIGHt is always 100 % so easy to answer this now.

At the time .....

People were excited that we somehow managed to snag Dykstra out of Iowa — breeding ground for O lineman — and I’ve mentioned before about people going gaga over his one handed handstand on a kettlebell. For whatever reason he hasn’t panned out.i felt neutral about him; if I recall correctly don’t believe Iowa or Iowa State offered him so maybe that was a sign.

Many were also excited about Kennedy but that unfortunately did not work out. I thought he had potential but guess the “when Feely gets his hands on him he will turn him into a monster” thing didn’t work out. Some may recall we were also in the running for the GT lineman but people had more doubts because he blocked in the triple option. Believe he started and played well at the school he transferred to.

Hebert was highly ranked but I think his shoulder injuries messed him up. Also supposed to be a high character person. But people were psyched about him as well, including me. Although it was limited PT this year don’t think he looked good when he got in. Don’t see him as a rotational contributor but hope I’m wrong.

Zillery was also well thought of ( I liked him too) people were hoping the Deejay HS teammate thing would cause him to come here. Believe he also did well at Paradise camp. Don’t know his deal now but like Herbert don’t think he played well in his limited PT this season. I think he has a chance to contribute more though.
 
Abc123 said:
One of the worst things about Diaz is that he’s causing everybody to forget that Richt sucked too. For God’s sake, Richt was going to make Banda and Patke, who are bad position coaches, co-DCs.

And one of the worst things about Stacey Searles and now Butch Barry is that they’re causing everybody to forget that Kehoe also sucked. Just not as much as Searles and Barry do.
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Except Kehoe got it right with that 2001 line. Other than that, he seemed exceptional. How many people get fired and then brought back years later?
 
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