OK, we can all breath. Some thoughts on surviving Chapel Hill...

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Admit it, you're a bit breathless right now as a #Canes fan. I know I am. The Hurricanes just escaped Jason Vorhees at Chapel Hill on Halloween night. Gotta give Bill Belichick(and especially Bobby 'Olive Garden' Petrino) credit. They can still coach ball. But Miami found a way to win 38-35. Some quick thoughts:

- It's OK to admit it, this defense isn't good. The front four doesn't get the pressure it did last season, the backers are liabilities in space, and the secondary is lost. Billy Edwards had a career night (28 for 34, 341 yards and 4 touchdowns).

There are some injury issues, I get it (can OJ Fredrique go see Benny Hinn and get touched by his healing hands?) but they just look so unsound. The whole game the Tar Heels out-leveraged UM, and then there were so many missed tackles, after having their zone defense carved up.

Coach JB remarked how Petrino was out-scheming Miami with man-beaters of every kind.

It wasn't till late in the game that guys like Marquis Lightfoot got to Edwards. I really don't know if Cory Hetherman has any answers with what he's got this season. But this is very reminiscent of the 2024 unit that was routinely carved up. I get the sense that Miami will have to play a lot of shootouts moving forward. But tonight, after the first drive, they simply couldn't get off the field and allowed UNC to shorten this game. It reminded me a lot of the 2024 Gatech loss in Atlanta.

This wasn't a situation where Miami was looking ahead. This was just bad defense that was carved up by a master play-caller.

I don't see a championship caliber defensive unit this season.

- A couple of times late in the game, Miami once again gave up big screens for huge yards. Again, at a certain point you have to have a better football IQ, don't you? That 2nd and 17 late in the game, was an especially egregious lack of situational awareness.

- Offense was good but tonight, it's like they weren't allowed to be less-than-perfect. But Miami's big time players, made big-time plays when it mattered, from Darian Mensah, Mark 'Touchdown Machine' Fletcher, and of course, 'the GABOS Glider', Malachi Toney, and Javian Mallory.

But maybe the most pivotal play late was one made by Elija Lofton, who kept his feet and rumbled for a first down that extended the drive. That was an amazing play by 9. OK, has he finally ditched the 'Greentree All-American' label?

- Finally, special teams. It's clear that UNC really works on onside kicks. I mean, that was....well, it was what it was. Our special teams is something I always worry about.

- With all that said, winning is great. Miami is 8-0. Every conference road game is riskly. Look around the country. You see really good teams getting knocked off or having tough games. The Canes won tonight, and now look ahead the big one in South Bend

Hey, 1-0
 
Admit it, you're a bit breathless right now as a #Canes fan. I know I am. The Hurricanes just escaped Jason Vorhees at Chapel Hill on Halloween night. Gotta give Bill Belichick(and especially Bobby 'Olive Garden' Petrino) credit. They can still coach ball. But Miami found a way to win 38-35. Some quick thoughts:

- It's OK to admit it, this defense isn't good. The front four doesn't get the pressure it did last season, the backers are liabilities in space, and the secondary is lost. Billy Edwards had a career night (28 for 34, 341 yards and 4 touchdowns).

There are some injury issues, I get it (can OJ Fredrique go see Benny Hinn and get touched by his healing hands?) but they just look so unsound. The whole game the Tar Heels out-leveraged UM, and then there were so many missed tackles, after having their zone defense carved up.

Coach JB remarked how Petrino was out-scheming Miami with man-beaters of every kind.

It wasn't till late in the game that guys like Marquis Lightfoot got to Edwards. I really don't know if Cory Hetherman has any answers with what he's got this season. But this is very reminiscent of the 2024 unit that was routinely carved up. I get the sense that Miami will have to play a lot of shootouts moving forward. But tonight, after the first drive, they simply couldn't get off the field and allowed UNC to shorten this game. It reminded me a lot of the 2024 Gatech loss in Atlanta.

This wasn't a situation where Miami was looking ahead. This was just bad defense that was carved up by a master play-caller.

I don't see a championship caliber defensive unit this season.

- A couple of times late in the game, Miami once again gave up big screens for huge yards. Again, at a certain point you have to have a better football IQ, don't you? That 2nd and 17 late in the game, was an especially egregious lack of situational awareness.

- Offense was good but tonight, it's like they weren't allowed to be less-than-perfect. But Miami's big time players, made big-time plays when it mattered, from Darian Mensah, Mark 'Touchdown Machine' Fletcher, and of course, 'the GABOS Glider', Malachi Toney, and Javian Mallory.

But maybe the most pivotal play late was one made by Elija Lofton, who kept his feet and rumbled for a first down that extended the drive. That was an amazing play by 9. OK, has he finally ditched the 'Greentree All-American' label?

- Finally, special teams. It's clear that UNC really works on onside kicks. I mean, that was....well, it was what it was. Our special teams is something I always worry about.

- With all that said, winning is great. Miami is 8-0. Every conference road game is riskly. Look around the country. You see really good teams getting knocked off or having tough games. The Canes won tonight, and now look ahead the big one in South Bend

Hey, 1-0

Steve what does JB think of this Miami team?
 
Bot sure what heatherman can come up with at this point. The talent is the talent. Gus defense it’s when he has nfl talent, not so much when you got maybe a couple nfl guys and then a bunch of above average guys. Miami needs to hit the portal hard next year for LB that can play in space. 1 and 9 are great against the run but that’s it. The secondary is a mess. No clue what Poyser is doing. Hopefully Scott and Moten can come alive cause Lightfoot can’t carry the whole line. Blount has been non existent this year. Wilson hasn’t done anything since Clemson.
 
Admit it, you're a bit breathless right now as a #Canes fan. I know I am. The Hurricanes just escaped Jason Vorhees at Chapel Hill on Halloween night. Gotta give Bill Belichick(and especially Bobby 'Olive Garden' Petrino) credit. They can still coach ball. But Miami found a way to win 38-35. Some quick thoughts:

- It's OK to admit it, this defense isn't good. The front four doesn't get the pressure it did last season, the backers are liabilities in space, and the secondary is lost. Billy Edwards had a career night (28 for 34, 341 yards and 4 touchdowns).

There are some injury issues, I get it (can OJ Fredrique go see Benny Hinn and get touched by his healing hands?) but they just look so unsound. The whole game the Tar Heels out-leveraged UM, and then there were so many missed tackles, after having their zone defense carved up.

Coach JB remarked how Petrino was out-scheming Miami with man-beaters of every kind.

It wasn't till late in the game that guys like Marquis Lightfoot got to Edwards. I really don't know if Cory Hetherman has any answers with what he's got this season. But this is very reminiscent of the 2024 unit that was routinely carved up. I get the sense that Miami will have to play a lot of shootouts moving forward. But tonight, after the first drive, they simply couldn't get off the field and allowed UNC to shorten this game. It reminded me a lot of the 2024 Gatech loss in Atlanta.

This wasn't a situation where Miami was looking ahead. This was just bad defense that was carved up by a master play-caller.

I don't see a championship caliber defensive unit this season.

- A couple of times late in the game, Miami once again gave up big screens for huge yards. Again, at a certain point you have to have a better football IQ, don't you? That 2nd and 17 late in the game, was an especially egregious lack of situational awareness.

- Offense was good but tonight, it's like they weren't allowed to be less-than-perfect. But Miami's big time players, made big-time plays when it mattered, from Darian Mensah, Mark 'Touchdown Machine' Fletcher, and of course, 'the GABOS Glider', Malachi Toney, and Javian Mallory.

But maybe the most pivotal play late was one made by Elija Lofton, who kept his feet and rumbled for a first down that extended the drive. That was an amazing play by 9. OK, has he finally ditched the 'Greentree All-American' label?

- Finally, special teams. It's clear that UNC really works on onside kicks. I mean, that was....well, it was what it was. Our special teams is something I always worry about.

- With all that said, winning is great. Miami is 8-0. Every conference road game is riskly. Look around the country. You see really good teams getting knocked off or having tough games. The Canes won tonight, and now look ahead the big one in South Bend

Hey, 1-0
Hey Steve, you'll appreciate this throwback. Lofton is hurdling defenders like the late great Edwin Moses!
 
Admit it, you're a bit breathless right now as a #Canes fan. I know I am. The Hurricanes just escaped Jason Vorhees at Chapel Hill on Halloween night. Gotta give Bill Belichick(and especially Bobby 'Olive Garden' Petrino) credit. They can still coach ball. But Miami found a way to win 38-35. Some quick thoughts:

- It's OK to admit it, this defense isn't good. The front four doesn't get the pressure it did last season, the backers are liabilities in space, and the secondary is lost. Billy Edwards had a career night (28 for 34, 341 yards and 4 touchdowns).

There are some injury issues, I get it (can OJ Fredrique go see Benny Hinn and get touched by his healing hands?) but they just look so unsound. The whole game the Tar Heels out-leveraged UM, and then there were so many missed tackles, after having their zone defense carved up.

Coach JB remarked how Petrino was out-scheming Miami with man-beaters of every kind.

It wasn't till late in the game that guys like Marquis Lightfoot got to Edwards. I really don't know if Cory Hetherman has any answers with what he's got this season. But this is very reminiscent of the 2024 unit that was routinely carved up. I get the sense that Miami will have to play a lot of shootouts moving forward. But tonight, after the first drive, they simply couldn't get off the field and allowed UNC to shorten this game. It reminded me a lot of the 2024 Gatech loss in Atlanta.

This wasn't a situation where Miami was looking ahead. This was just bad defense that was carved up by a master play-caller.

I don't see a championship caliber defensive unit this season.

- A couple of times late in the game, Miami once again gave up big screens for huge yards. Again, at a certain point you have to have a better football IQ, don't you? That 2nd and 17 late in the game, was an especially egregious lack of situational awareness.

- Offense was good but tonight, it's like they weren't allowed to be less-than-perfect. But Miami's big time players, made big-time plays when it mattered, from Darian Mensah, Mark 'Touchdown Machine' Fletcher, and of course, 'the GABOS Glider', Malachi Toney, and Javian Mallory.

But maybe the most pivotal play late was one made by Elija Lofton, who kept his feet and rumbled for a first down that extended the drive. That was an amazing play by 9. OK, has he finally ditched the 'Greentree All-American' label?

- Finally, special teams. It's clear that UNC really works on onside kicks. I mean, that was....well, it was what it was. Our special teams is something I always worry about.

- With all that said, winning is great. Miami is 8-0. Every conference road game is riskly. Look around the country. You see really good teams getting knocked off or having tough games. The Canes won tonight, and now look ahead the big one in South Bend

Hey, 1-0
Hey Steve, you'll appreciate this throwback. Lofton is hurdling defenders like the late great Edwin Moses
 
You’re getting a look at Corey Heatherman without two first round DEs and an NFL Nickel. His stuff is stale and his gameplans suck. He’s been carved up by the same concepts multiple times. I’m sure he has an explanation for why he’s calling the games the way he is, but I don’t want to hear it. Right now, for opposing QB he’s a career day maker.
 
Again, at a certain point you have to have a better football IQ, 2nd and 17 late in the game, was an especially egregious lack of situational awareness.
I called the screen/1st down out loud before the snap. Neighbors were amazed. I wasn’t. If a half drunken fan with a big crank & a bad attitude can see it coming, how come our defense can’t?! Just embarrassing.
 
Admit it, you're a bit breathless right now as a #Canes fan. I know I am. The Hurricanes just escaped Jason Vorhees at Chapel Hill on Halloween night. Gotta give Bill Belichick(and especially Bobby 'Olive Garden' Petrino) credit. They can still coach ball. But Miami found a way to win 38-35. Some quick thoughts:

- It's OK to admit it, this defense isn't good. The front four doesn't get the pressure it did last season, the backers are liabilities in space, and the secondary is lost. Billy Edwards had a career night (28 for 34, 341 yards and 4 touchdowns).

There are some injury issues, I get it (can OJ Fredrique go see Benny Hinn and get touched by his healing hands?) but they just look so unsound. The whole game the Tar Heels out-leveraged UM, and then there were so many missed tackles, after having their zone defense carved up.

Coach JB remarked how Petrino was out-scheming Miami with man-beaters of every kind.

It wasn't till late in the game that guys like Marquis Lightfoot got to Edwards. I really don't know if Cory Hetherman has any answers with what he's got this season. But this is very reminiscent of the 2024 unit that was routinely carved up. I get the sense that Miami will have to play a lot of shootouts moving forward. But tonight, after the first drive, they simply couldn't get off the field and allowed UNC to shorten this game. It reminded me a lot of the 2024 Gatech loss in Atlanta.

This wasn't a situation where Miami was looking ahead. This was just bad defense that was carved up by a master play-caller.

I don't see a championship caliber defensive unit this season.

- A couple of times late in the game, Miami once again gave up big screens for huge yards. Again, at a certain point you have to have a better football IQ, don't you? That 2nd and 17 late in the game, was an especially egregious lack of situational awareness.

- Offense was good but tonight, it's like they weren't allowed to be less-than-perfect. But Miami's big time players, made big-time plays when it mattered, from Darian Mensah, Mark 'Touchdown Machine' Fletcher, and of course, 'the GABOS Glider', Malachi Toney, and Javian Mallory.

But maybe the most pivotal play late was one made by Elija Lofton, who kept his feet and rumbled for a first down that extended the drive. That was an amazing play by 9. OK, has he finally ditched the 'Greentree All-American' label?

- Finally, special teams. It's clear that UNC really works on onside kicks. I mean, that was....well, it was what it was. Our special teams is something I always worry about.

- With all that said, winning is great. Miami is 8-0. Every conference road game is riskly. Look around the country. You see really good teams getting knocked off or having tough games. The Canes won tonight, and now look ahead the big one in South Bend

Hey, 1-0
Lofton's tremendous catch, hurdle and run was a game saver. Toney and Fletcher and Mensah were all phenomenal tonight.

I think we may need a change or upgrade at secondary coach. I mean I know we have injuries there but still we are missing something there. Something is not right in the secondary.

When are we going to learn how to stop a screen pass?

We really miss Keionte Scott this year. Bain too but Scott was huge there at nickel.

Toney or Mensah will win the heisman if we win against ND and win the acc.

Our Dline is not nearly as good as last year and lightfoot and Scott played well tonight in the second half especially.

If we could get one of our corners back, we could move Fitzgerald back to ballhawk safety which i think would help. Not sure who we would replace him at nickel then, maybe Dunnigan?

We may have to outscore ND next week.

The million dollar question is can we overcome our D this year with our great Offense to win a NC?
 
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You’re getting a look at Corey Heatherman without two first round DEs and an NFL Nickel. His stuff is stale and his gameplans suck. He’s been carved up by the same concepts multiple times. I’m sure he has an explanation for why he’s calling the games the way he is, but I don’t want to hear it. Right now, for opposing QB he’s a career day maker.
Wouldn't be sad to see Hetherman leave. He has been awful and it's not solely a talent issue. Just promote Taylor and surround him with NFL defensive minds.
 
Lofton's tremendous catch, hurdle and run was a game saver. Toney and Fletcher and Mensah were all phenomenal tonight.

I think we may need a change or upgrade at secondary coach. I mean I know we have injuries there but still we are missing something there. Something is not right in the secondary.

When are we going to learn how to stop a screen pass?

Toney or Mensah will win the heisman if we win against ND and win the acc.

Our Dline is not nearly as good as last year and lightfoot and Scott played well tonight in the second half especially.

If we could get one of our corners back, we could move Fitzgerald back to ballhawk safety which i think would help. Not sure who we would replace him at nickel then, maybe Dunnigan?

We may have to outscore ND next week.

The million dollar question is can we overcome our D this year with our great Offense to win a NC?
Fitz was at safety and froze as UNC threw another TD. Man coverage with BF over the top
 
I am in complete disbelief at the defense I saw tonight.
Lofton's tremendous catch, hurdle and run was a game saver. Toney and Fletcher and Mensah were all phenomenal tonight.

I think we may need a change or upgrade at secondary coach. I mean I know we have injuries there but still we are missing something there. Something is not right in the secondary.

When are we going to learn how to stop a screen pass?

We really miss Keionte Scott this year. Bain too but Scott was huge there at nickel.

Toney or Mensah will win the heisman if we win against ND and win the acc.

Our Dline is not nearly as good as last year and lightfoot and Scott played well tonight in the second half especially.

If we could get one of our corners back, we could move Fitzgerald back to ballhawk safety which i think would help. Not sure who we would replace him at nickel then, maybe Dunnigan?

We may have to outscore ND next week.

The million dollar question is can we overcome our D this year with our great Offense to win a NC?
one thing I will say about the offense - I am not sold on the WRs behind Toney being championship level. Tonight's game Barkate and Upshaw both had what could have been critical drops. I am not confident in either right now in key moments.
 
I am in complete disbelief at the defense I saw tonight.

one thing I will say about the offense - I am not sold on the WRs behind Toney being championship level. Tonight's game Barkate and Upshaw both had what could have been critical drops. I am not confident in either right now in key moments.
Barkate had one drop but recovered nicely later on to catch a couple big passes for us.
 
Seriously though, why has the 2024 Carrier Dome defense suddenly reappeared???

This Billy Edwards dude became the ghost of Kenny Pickett past after barely being serviceable before tonight.

Only hope now is to keep the pedal to the metal on offense and outscore everyone. And then white knuckle hang on at the end for dear life.

I don’t know if that’ll work up in South Bend, but we’ll soon find out.
 
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