Ok...Clemson , ND and Miami

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Coaches need to turn it up!! gotta win these games and make a good impression -- Not sure how ND CLEMSON turns out but its looking like we would still need UNC to shock ND---Putting the pressure on our coaches to come through and get this thing going

Miami has choked away multiple ACC games annual—against lesser teams—every year since joining the conference (sans 2017, where the Canes went from 10-0 to 10-3 after losses to a four-win Pitt team and conference title game shellacking via Clemson.)

We've seen this show before—worried about winning out with style points, only to see the Canes choking down the stretch and making some title game tiebreaker moot.

@North Carolina State. @Virginia Tech. Georgia Tech. @Wake Forest. North Carolina.

Worry about taking care of business and we'll see where it all lands.
 
Its only win and advance with this team. Who has enough confidence in this squad to chalk up wins against future opponents?
 
I believe PF-PA is one criteria for tie breaker.

Do I have that wrong?
No. It's just that so many people on here act like a one point win versus a scrub is equal to a 40 point win versus a scrub. How you win matters, a lot. Until ND stomped Pitt, we had a decisive edge against them in regards to common opponents. Now we need Clemson to maul them, without TL. If somehow Clemson can beat them by more than they beat us, without TL, we can have a solid argument that we belong in the title game. If they only lose by 14, the ACC will simply look at the score, not the fact TL was out.

Bottom line, championship teams dominate more often than they struggle against average teams. Before the Clemson game we looked like a team on the rise. Since then we have looked like a team that was figured out and is simply trying to hold on. The ACC doesn't want that in their title game, and I don't blame them.

We need to improve, and we are not doing so. More close wins will not push us up the polls very fast. It will allow teams to jump us. We need to convince the ACC we belong there, not just back into it. Right now we just are not doing that.
 
Miami has choked away multiple ACC games annual—against lesser teams—every year since joining the conference (sans 2017, where the Canes went from 10-0 to 10-3 after losses to a four-win Pitt team and conference title game shellacking via Clemson.)

We've seen this show before—worried about winning out with style points, only to see the Canes choking down the stretch and making some title game tiebreaker moot.

@North Carolina State. @Virginia Tech. Georgia Tech. @Wake Forest. North Carolina.

Worry about taking care of business and we'll see where it all lands.
Close games can go either way. It's why we just can't seem to put 10+ win seasons together. We play so many teams close that it's practically a coin toss to see if we win or lose. We need to get back to taking care of business, which is beating teams by double digits regularly. If you don't, you leave yourself open to an upset. This team doesn't have it in them to pull away from teams week after week. They do it once or twice, let it get to their heads, then wallow in mediocrity the rest of the season.
 
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Miami and Notre Dame have both played FSU, Louisville and Pitt.

Miami has a four point advantage in point differential vs Notre Dame, with that gap being very close due to ND smashing Pitt out of the park.

If Notre Dame gets beaten Clemson by 20 or more, they have to be behind us based on simple logic.

But, its Notre Dame and its the AP, so watch them being ahead of us regardless of the outcome.
Also another reason why if you’re Manny, you should’ve run up the score vs Pitt and at any other opportunity moving forward.

BTW, Prost mein Freund
 
No. It's just that so many people on here act like a one point win versus a scrub is equal to a 40 point win versus a scrub. How you win matters, a lot. Until ND stomped Pitt, we had a decisive edge against them in regards to common opponents. Now we need Clemson to maul them, without TL. If somehow Clemson can beat them by more than they beat us, without TL, we can have a solid argument that we belong in the title game. If they only lose by 14, the ACC will simply look at the score, not the fact TL was out.

Bottom line, championship teams dominate more often than they struggle against average teams. Before the Clemson game we looked like a team on the rise. Since then we have looked like a team that was figured out and is simply trying to hold on. The ACC doesn't want that in their title game, and I don't blame them.

We need to improve, and we are not doing so. More close wins will not push us up the polls very fast. It will allow teams to jump us. We need to convince the ACC we belong there, not just back into it. Right now we just are not doing that.
yeah that works out well for the acc notre dame plays Clemson with tL and gets destroyed even worse a second time
they should of switched clemson with notre dame for us. acc gona **** off allot of people if miami goes 10-1 and notre dame goes 10-1
they really should of scheduled a head to head game for teams with the same record.
 
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Miami and Notre Dame have both played FSU, Louisville and Pitt.

Miami has a four point advantage in point differential vs Notre Dame, with that gap being very close due to ND smashing Pitt out of the park.

If Notre Dame gets beaten Clemson by 20 or more, they have to be behind us based on simple logic.

But, its Notre Dame and its the AP, so watch them being ahead of us regardless of the outcome.
Nobody is taking into account the ACC wants ND in the championship game, as well. The championship game is a huge selling point for the ACC to bring in ND since it helps their chances to make the playoffs and/or a big bowl game.
 
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