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[CaneFan79]

UMiami needs Uhealth to fund the rest of the university...Just to compete with the amenties other universities offer regular students, especially when it's $60K at a minimum per student before aid/scholarships!

Though this applies to Alabama, I mention O$Uck...Trust me, they own the whole state, Cincy/MAC don't matter and the Pro Ohio teams? LOL!!!

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/alabamas-dominance-context-death-cfb/104100

Emmert will surly kill College Football, just give him another extension past 2020.

 

[SpikeUM]

Can't stand Urban Meyer but he is playing chess not checkers. Just saw he hired a current DC to be Co DC as his 10th coach.

There are too many coaches playing chess these days. I want a head coach that can play THREE dimensional chess!

 

[PSU Cane]

Can't stand Urban Meyer but he is playing chess not checkers. Just saw he hired a current DC to be Co DC as his 10th coach.

He doesn't mess around with coaching positions these days. He pounces at every opportunity to bring in top coaches.
- He snatched Larry Johnson to be his Dline coach, and that man is one of the best in the business.
- He gets Schiano to be a DC after being a HC in both college and the NFL.
- He grabs Kevin Wilson to be OC after being a HC.
- He has Bill Davis, who is a 3x NFL DC, as his LB coach.
- And now he gets Alex Grinch, who actually made the Wazzu defense relevant this year, to be a Co-DC. Unreal.

I can't stand Meyer either, but that list above is impressive.

Money means nothing to these schools. On a side note, if Dave Aranda can get $2.5 million per year, then it is out of control.

Already is out of control.

 

[MedleyCane]

Not just any DC.. one of the best in cfb. More money than Washington State and he’s from Ohio. Good hire. We’ll probably promote a support staff guy

They have a substantially bigger budget to work with too.

I'm not buying that for minute. UM has plenty of money.

You sound like you're intimately familiar with UM's budget.
So tell me how UM manages to stack up with a school like Ohio State that has a massive stadium, with massive
fan-base that shows up to all games regardless of record (and pay more for tickets), is the the flagship school of
a football-crazy state and belongs to a conference that is raking in alot of money.

UM's big money maker is UHealth... if you could convince medical operations to help fund sports operations we would be a rich football program. So unless UM discloses the complete FB operating ledger to the public to prove me wrong, I seriously doubt that we can come anywhere close to the OSU operating budget. As Medley says, OSU has a major football and sports following, $$$$

Forget football.
I challenge anyone to visit the OSU official site and contrast/compare how many mens and women's sports team they support in contrast to UM.
On the men's side alone, they have soccer, hockey, gymnastics, wrestling,etc......18 sports teams in comparison to our 7, and their 18 teams are funded
handsomely.
Their baseball team are known to make several trips to Florida or California, on their own plane, on any given season while other schools send
their teams south only during their spring breaks and usually by bus.
Two totally different worlds between that type of school vs a smaller private school.
It would be like comparing the Yankees' budget to that of Kansas City Royals.

 

[CaneFan79]

They have a substantially bigger budget to work with too.

I'm not buying that for minute. UM has plenty of money.

You sound like you're intimately familiar with UM's budget.
So tell me how UM manages to stack up with a school like Ohio State that has a massive stadium, with massive
fan-base that shows up to all games regardless of record (and pay more for tickets), is the the flagship school of
a football-crazy state and belongs to a conference that is raking in alot of money.

UM's big money maker is UHealth... if you could convince medical operations to help fund sports operations we would be a rich football program. So unless UM discloses the complete FB operating ledger to the public to prove me wrong, I seriously doubt that we can come anywhere close to the OSU operating budget. As Medley says, OSU has a major football and sports following, $$$$

Forget football.
I challenge anyone to visit the OSU official site and contrast/compare how many mens and women's sports team they support in contrast to UM.
On the men's side alone, they have soccer, hockey, gymnastics, wrestling,etc......18 sports teams in comparison to our 7, and their 18 teams are funded
handsomely.
Their baseball team are known to make several trips to Florida or California, on their own plane, on any given season while other schools send
their teams south only during their spring breaks and usually by bus.
Two totally different worlds between that type of school vs a smaller private school.
It would like comparing the Yankees' budget to that of Kansas City Royals.

Trouble is, MLB at least has the luxury tax, a bit of a half-assed effort compared to the salary caps of other leagues, but the NCAA has NOTHING to address Athletic Department spending, yet their mission is to "keep competitive balance..."A total joke under big public school enabler Mark Emmert.

To expound on your, point in the quest for Championships, OSUck has pistol and rifle teams, plus Synchronized Swimming

Funny, the school can't crack one ranking: The US News National University Top 50. The emphasis is on athletics, just talk to it's grads.

 

[kryptonite]

"Cane" in the name? Check.
Has fewer than 10 posts? Check.
Comes with news that isn't bad per se, but will get people arguing? Check.

 

[MedleyCane]

I'm not buying that for minute. UM has plenty of money.

You sound like you're intimately familiar with UM's budget.
So tell me how UM manages to stack up with a school like Ohio State that has a massive stadium, with massive
fan-base that shows up to all games regardless of record (and pay more for tickets), is the the flagship school of
a football-crazy state and belongs to a conference that is raking in alot of money.

UM's big money maker is UHealth... if you could convince medical operations to help fund sports operations we would be a rich football program. So unless UM discloses the complete FB operating ledger to the public to prove me wrong, I seriously doubt that we can come anywhere close to the OSU operating budget. As Medley says, OSU has a major football and sports following, $$$$

Forget football.
I challenge anyone to visit the OSU official site and contrast/compare how many mens and women's sports team they support in contrast to UM.
On the men's side alone, they have soccer, hockey, gymnastics, wrestling,etc......18 sports teams in comparison to our 7, and their 18 teams are funded
handsomely.
Their baseball team are known to make several trips to Florida or California, on their own plane, on any given season while other schools send
their teams south only during their spring breaks and usually by bus.
Two totally different worlds between that type of school vs a smaller private school.
It would like comparing the Yankees' budget to that of Kansas City Royals.

Trouble is, MLB at least has the luxury tax, a bit of a half-assed effort compared to the salary caps of other leagues, but the NCAA has NOTHING to address Athletic Department spending, yet their mission is to "keep competitive balance..."A total joke under big public school enabler Mark Emmert.

To expound on your, point in the quest for Championships, OSUck has pistol and rifle teams, plus Synchronized Swimming

Funny, the school can't crack one ranking: The US News National University Top 50. The emphasis is on athletics, just talk to it's grads.

From my many years of working for NASA projects as a contractor, I worked with many astronomers, physicists, and other PHD types from
Ohio State, and most of them were apparently highly-regarded in their field. So they do seem to be strong in some fields of study, although
I doubt Urban's players are studying comets, black-holes,etc.....lol.

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

Can't stand Urban Meyer but he is playing chess not checkers. Just saw he hired a current DC to be Co DC as his 10th coach.

He doesn't mess around with coaching positions these days. He pounces at every opportunity to bring in top coaches.
- He snatched Larry Johnson to be his Dline coach, and that man is one of the best in the business.
- He gets Schiano to be a DC after being a HC in both college and the NFL.
- He grabs Kevin Wilson to be OC after being a HC.
- He has Bill Davis, who is a 3x NFL DC, as his LB coach.
- And now he gets Alex Grinch, who actually made the Wazzu defense relevant this year, to be a Co-DC. Unreal.

I can't stand Meyer either, but that list above is impressive.

Money means nothing to these schools. On a side note, if Dave Aranda can get $2.5 million per year, then it is out of control.

Already is out of control.

You can make the argument that Aranda’s replacement at Wisky is far better than he ever was. How much is Wisky’s DC worth if Aranda is worth $2.5 million? Wisky had the best D in the nation stats wise..

 

[CaneFan79]

You sound like you're intimately familiar with UM's budget.
So tell me how UM manages to stack up with a school like Ohio State that has a massive stadium, with massive
fan-base that shows up to all games regardless of record (and pay more for tickets), is the the flagship school of
a football-crazy state and belongs to a conference that is raking in alot of money.

UM's big money maker is UHealth... if you could convince medical operations to help fund sports operations we would be a rich football program. So unless UM discloses the complete FB operating ledger to the public to prove me wrong, I seriously doubt that we can come anywhere close to the OSU operating budget. As Medley says, OSU has a major football and sports following, $$$$

Forget football.
I challenge anyone to visit the OSU official site and contrast/compare how many mens and women's sports team they support in contrast to UM.
On the men's side alone, they have soccer, hockey, gymnastics, wrestling,etc......18 sports teams in comparison to our 7, and their 18 teams are funded
handsomely.
Their baseball team are known to make several trips to Florida or California, on their own plane, on any given season while other schools send
their teams south only during their spring breaks and usually by bus.
Two totally different worlds between that type of school vs a smaller private school.
It would like comparing the Yankees' budget to that of Kansas City Royals.

Trouble is, MLB at least has the luxury tax, a bit of a half-assed effort compared to the salary caps of other leagues, but the NCAA has NOTHING to address Athletic Department spending, yet their mission is to "keep competitive balance..."A total joke under big public school enabler Mark Emmert.

To expound on your, point in the quest for Championships, OSUck has pistol and rifle teams, plus Synchronized Swimming

Funny, the school can't crack one ranking: The US News National University Top 50. The emphasis is on athletics, just talk to it's grads.

From my many years of working for NASA projects as a contractor, I worked with many astronomers, physicists, and other PHD types from
Ohio State, and most of them were apparently highly-regarded in their field. So they do seem to be strong in some fields of study, although
I doubt Urban's players are studying comets, black-holes,etc.....lol.

Work with a bunch of grads in Air Force research due to my location. I wasn't trying to disparage them at all on prowess, I was just relying their (admittedly anecdotal) feel that the university is focused on the sports aspect that it doesn't "push enough" in other endeavors and they get saddled with a "football school" label. The US News ranking point is one some of them are dismayed at...Especially when compared to the "school up North"
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor vs Ohio State University-Main Campus - Colleges...

 

[SayWhat]

These schools also can't buy our recruiting base.

Keep winning, lock it down, and that's our golden (even typing that ****es me off, **** golden) ticket.

When we ran a train on the college football landscape, granted it was a different era, it wasn't due to the Benjamin's. I'm not sure it can be done again, but with the right coach and our recruiting base, we should have a shot.

 

[MedleyCane]

These schools also can't buy our recruiting base.

Keep winning, lock it down, and that's our golden (even typing that ****es me off, **** golden) ticket.

When we ran a train on the college football landscape, granted it was a different era, it wasn't due to the Benjamin's. I'm not sure it can be done again, but with the right coach and our recruiting base, we should have a shot.

We do have our share of advantages like you noted.
We need to maximize our advantages and minimize what we're not good at.
For example, I look at the Steelers and Ravens in the NFL....they don't have the
biggest budget but always seem to find players and coaches and compete rather
well against teams with bigger coaching staffs, budgets,etc (well, in fairness, Ravens
sucked) this year.

 

[MIATL]

Let’s not get too high and mighty on the cracking top 50 ranking for schools.

I think Ohio State and UGA are tied at 56th. And Miami is in the 40’s.

Meanwhile, Northwestern, Duke, Wake Forest, Stanford, USC, Vanderbilt, Rice, and Notre Dame are all significantly ahead of Miami.

I'm not buying that for minute. UM has plenty of money.

You sound like you're intimately familiar with UM's budget.
So tell me how UM manages to stack up with a school like Ohio State that has a massive stadium, with massive
fan-base that shows up to all games regardless of record (and pay more for tickets), is the the flagship school of
a football-crazy state and belongs to a conference that is raking in alot of money.

UM's big money maker is UHealth... if you could convince medical operations to help fund sports operations we would be a rich football program. So unless UM discloses the complete FB operating ledger to the public to prove me wrong, I seriously doubt that we can come anywhere close to the OSU operating budget. As Medley says, OSU has a major football and sports following, $$$$

Forget football.
I challenge anyone to visit the OSU official site and contrast/compare how many mens and women's sports team they support in contrast to UM.
On the men's side alone, they have soccer, hockey, gymnastics, wrestling,etc......18 sports teams in comparison to our 7, and their 18 teams are funded
handsomely.
Their baseball team are known to make several trips to Florida or California, on their own plane, on any given season while other schools send
their teams south only during their spring breaks and usually by bus.
Two totally different worlds between that type of school vs a smaller private school.
It would like comparing the Yankees' budget to that of Kansas City Royals.

Trouble is, MLB at least has the luxury tax, a bit of a half-assed effort compared to the salary caps of other leagues, but the NCAA has NOTHING to address Athletic Department spending, yet their mission is to "keep competitive balance..."A total joke under big public school enabler Mark Emmert.

To expound on your, point in the quest for Championships, OSUck has pistol and rifle teams, plus Synchronized Swimming

Funny, the school can't crack one ranking: The US News National University Top 50. The emphasis is on athletics, just talk to it's grads.

 

[CanesFan93]

These schools also can't buy our recruiting base.

Keep winning, lock it down, and that's our golden (even typing that ****es me off, **** golden) ticket.

When we ran a train on the college football landscape, granted it was a different era, it wasn't due to the Benjamin's. I'm not sure it can be done again, but with the right coach and our recruiting base, we should have a shot.

We do have our share of advantages like you noted.
We need to maximize our advantages and minimize what we're not good at.
For example, I look at the Steelers and Ravens in the NFL....they don't have the
biggest budget but always seem to find players and coaches and compete rather
well against teams with bigger coaching staffs, budgets,etc (well, in fairness, Ravens
sucked) this year.

Spot on. We're not in position to go bag for bag with other schools. Let's establish a system, one that works in today's landscape and not 10+ years ago, and get players/coaches that fit.

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[MIATL]

Meyer knows Schiano is on his way to a HC job might as well have the replacement ready to transition.

Great move!

 

[TrueFloridian]

Not just any DC.. one of the best in cfb. More money than Washington State and he’s from Ohio. Good hire. We’ll probably promote a support staff guy

They have a substantially bigger budget to work with too.

I'm not buying that for minute. UM has plenty of money.

You sound like you're intimately familiar with UM's budget.
So tell me how UM manages to stack up with a school like Ohio State that has a massive stadium, with massive
fan-base that shows up to all games regardless of record (and pay more for tickets), is the the flagship school of
a football-crazy state and belongs to a conference that is raking in alot of money.

I'm very familiar with UM's hurricane club and board of trustees. There are a handful members and donors that could probably buy out every OSU booster combined. UM has multiple BILLIONAIRE'S backing it's program now. They have become more involved in the football program in recent years. It's going to take the right person to convince them it's worth spending the money no doubt. They did convince one of them to build the IPF.
For the later part, ESPN pays the ACC only second to the SEC money wise. YES, The ACC is second in money over the BIG 10. In 2019, ESPN is launching the ACC network. It will be promoted greater than the SEC network due to year round marketability with football and basketball.

The bottom line is a few million dollars for the U is nothing. ****, all you have to do is change the turnover chain to an ibis next season with a patent. Problem solved!

 

[SayWhat]

These schools also can't buy our recruiting base.

Keep winning, lock it down, and that's our golden (even typing that ****es me off, **** golden) ticket.

When we ran a train on the college football landscape, granted it was a different era, it wasn't due to the Benjamin's. I'm not sure it can be done again, but with the right coach and our recruiting base, we should have a shot.

We do have our share of advantages like you noted.
We need to maximize our advantages and minimize what we're not good at.
For example, I look at the Steelers and Ravens in the NFL....they don't have the
biggest budget but always seem to find players and coaches and compete rather
well against teams with bigger coaching staffs, budgets,etc (well, in fairness, Ravens
sucked) this year.

Spot on. We're not in position to go bag for bag with other schools. Let's establish a system, one that works in today's landscape and not 10+ years ago, and get players/coaches that fit.

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Seems we're going in that direction with less focus under center.

Considering our base, I always said our offense would be ridiculous with three or four wide receivers out. I've been saying that for years and to drop an old name who is missed out there, Laus was on point there a loooong time ago before he left us all too early.

I don't think Richt wants us to be UGA offensively, but should he, we will fail.

 

[PSU Cane]

These schools also can't buy our recruiting base.

Keep winning, lock it down, and that's our golden (even typing that ****es me off, **** golden) ticket.

When we ran a train on the college football landscape, granted it was a different era, it wasn't due to the Benjamin's. I'm not sure it can be done again, but with the right coach and our recruiting base, we should have a shot.

We do have our share of advantages like you noted.
We need to maximize our advantages and minimize what we're not good at.
For example, I look at the Steelers and Ravens in the NFL....they don't have the
biggest budget but always seem to find players and coaches and compete rather
well against teams with bigger coaching staffs, budgets,etc (well, in fairness, Ravens
sucked) this year.

Spot on. We're not in position to go bag for bag with other schools. Let's establish a system, one that works in today's landscape and not 10+ years ago, and get players/coaches that fit.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Seems we're going in that direction with less focus under center.

Considering our base, I always said our offense would be ridiculous with three or four wide receivers out. I've been saying that for years and to drop an old name who is missed out there, Laus was on point there a loooong time ago before he left us all too early.

I don't think Richt wants us to be UGA offensively, but should he, we will fail.

Wow, Laus - that does take me back. Rest in peace buddy......

 

[CaneFan79]

Let’s not get too high and mighty on the cracking top 50 ranking for schools.

I think Ohio State and UGA are tied at 56th. And Miami is in the 40’s.

Meanwhile, Northwestern, Duke, Wake Forest, Stanford, USC, Vanderbilt, Rice, and Notre Dame are all significantly ahead of Miami.

You sound like you're intimately familiar with UM's budget.
So tell me how UM manages to stack up with a school like Ohio State that has a massive stadium, with massive
fan-base that shows up to all games regardless of record (and pay more for tickets), is the the flagship school of
a football-crazy state and belongs to a conference that is raking in alot of money.

UM's big money maker is UHealth... if you could convince medical operations to help fund sports operations we would be a rich football program. So unless UM discloses the complete FB operating ledger to the public to prove me wrong, I seriously doubt that we can come anywhere close to the OSU operating budget. As Medley says, OSU has a major football and sports following, $$$$

Forget football.
I challenge anyone to visit the OSU official site and contrast/compare how many mens and women's sports team they support in contrast to UM.
On the men's side alone, they have soccer, hockey, gymnastics, wrestling,etc......18 sports teams in comparison to our 7, and their 18 teams are funded
handsomely.
Their baseball team are known to make several trips to Florida or California, on their own plane, on any given season while other schools send
their teams south only during their spring breaks and usually by bus.
Two totally different worlds between that type of school vs a smaller private school.
It would like comparing the Yankees' budget to that of Kansas City Royals.

Trouble is, MLB at least has the luxury tax, a bit of a half-assed effort compared to the salary caps of other leagues, but the NCAA has NOTHING to address Athletic Department spending, yet their mission is to "keep competitive balance..."A total joke under big public school enabler Mark Emmert.

To expound on your, point in the quest for Championships, OSUck has pistol and rifle teams, plus Synchronized Swimming

Funny, the school can't crack one ranking: The US News National University Top 50. The emphasis is on athletics, just talk to it's grads.

Not comparing to Miami in this context; the grads are more concerned with Michigan, the odd Stanford grad and even Rose-Hulman...They want a perception change.

 

[CaneFan79]

Not just any DC.. one of the best in cfb. More money than Washington State and he’s from Ohio. Good hire. We’ll probably promote a support staff guy

They have a substantially bigger budget to work with too.

I'm not buying that for minute. UM has plenty of money.

You sound like you're intimately familiar with UM's budget.
So tell me how UM manages to stack up with a school like Ohio State that has a massive stadium, with massive
fan-base that shows up to all games regardless of record (and pay more for tickets), is the the flagship school of
a football-crazy state and belongs to a conference that is raking in alot of money.

I'm very familiar with UM's hurricane club and board of trustees. There are a handful members and donors that could probably buy out every OSU booster combined. UM has multiple BILLIONAIRE'S backing it's program now. They have become more involved in the football program in recent years. It's going to take the right person to convince them it's worth spending the money no doubt. They did convince one of them to build the IPF.
For the later part, ESPN pays the ACC only second to the SEC money wise. YES, The ACC is second in money over the BIG 10. In 2019, ESPN is launching the ACC network. It will be promoted greater than the SEC network due to year round marketability with football and basketball.

The bottom line is a few million dollars for the U is nothing. ****, all you have to do is change the turnover chain to an ibis next season with a patent. Problem solved!

So if we add a men's soccer team (and say women's field hockey to Title IX balance) will Frenk's buddy Carlos Slim ($66 Billion) blow the doors off of Les Wexner ($6 Billion) in Athletic spending? Don't see anything right now from Slim, but lingerie sales power Urban's team!

 

[PlanoCane]

We just do the opposite of what makes sense

osu has the $$$ to hire anyone they want. We can’t compete with their athletic budget. FYI we can’t compete with athletic budgets of many top athletic programs. Take a look at what Texas A&M is doing now that they hired jimbo. It is all about the Benjamins.

Gigem my #2 school but man that town sucks after a few months. Money is not a factor with them oil/gas guys. Cult mentality at A&M