Oh no ya bunch of sunshine pumpers

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Pride of what?. We lost to sw 8th street Panthers last year ....I KNOW what we are. Im not thinking the rest of the conference just sucks because we do. Ive stated we are a middle of the road team...we would be the same in the big 10 as well. Im going to downplay Penn state when they cant handle Indiana. Indiana is some sh*t....they would be some sh*t if they were in the sunbelt but whatever.

- I wasnt thinking of the overral team s i was speaking SPECIFICALLY to the DLines we faced. And that is painfgully obvious as to what i stated. As dogsh*t fsu is..and what we think of them Marvin Wilson is a top 3 rd guy on the dl. Hasnt made one play of note against us but it is what it is. We've played one good team and lost to them...Penn state hasnt ...and are o-1 why are you on their d*ck? Other than perception?.
Like what is the difference between Northwestern and Duke?. I dont know. I know in the last 10 years the acc has had 2 different programs win national championships. Im not even a big conference guy since thats an SEC, BIG 10 fan base sort of thing .. But ill just go with you guys opinion then.
For what it's worth now that I've seen Penn St and michigan this year I will certainly agree they ain't **** THIS YEAR. Qb play is atrocious for both and it shows. I still share the same feeling I stated before for the conference and week in and week out that shows. The team we beat by one today as the #9 team in the country and a 2 point dog lost last week to liberty... We all got our own opinions though brother. No pressure,just is what it is.
 
This thread is funny and represent CIS in a nutshell.
People here saying King is not that good and most of them are the same ones saying without him we lose every game.
I’m relying on you and @Go Canes!! to individually, or collectively, hunt down and bring to CIS justice, each and every one of these hypocritical Mope extremists.
 
I’m relying on you and @Go Canes!! to individually, or collectively, hunt down and bring to CIS justice, each and every one of these hypocritical Mope extremists.
Yea! That’s a great idea!

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For what it's worth now that I've seen Penn St and michigan this year I will certainly agree they ain't **** THIS YEAR. Qb play is atrocious for both and it shows. I still share the same feeling I stated before for the conference and week in and week out that shows. The team we beat by one today as the #9 team in the country and a 2 point dog lost last week to liberty... We all got our own opinions though brother. No pressure,just is what it is.
There is no difference to me than the ACC and Big10...except the top dog in the Acc is better than theres.

Some of the worst programs football wise sit right in that conference.

Ill take 7-1 all day currently no matter how sh*tty we look. Also i dont know why it ALWAYS has to be said..but VA Tech can lose to South Miami High School and play us tough. It literally happens EVERY YEAR. They are our 2nd biggest rivals next to FSU.

If your talking conferences though the Pac 12 and Big 12 fight it out every year as the worst. Big 10 and ACC flip flop for the better teams yearly..except we have teams in this conference that have the ability to actually win MNC'S. (Florida State, Clemson, Miami) other than OSU i think all the programs in those conferences have a ceiling. Us and FSU ***** up our own programs...yet FSU still has a MNC recently.
 
There is no difference to me than the ACC and Big10...except the top dog in the Acc is better than theres.

Some of the worst programs football wise sit right in that conference.

Ill take 7-1 all day currently no matter how sh*tty we look. Also i dont know why it ALWAYS has to be said..but VA Tech can lose to South Miami High School and play us tough. It literally happens EVERY YEAR. They are our 2nd biggest rivals next to FSU.

If your talking conferences though the Pac 12 and Big 12 fight it out every year as the worst. Big 10 and ACC flip flop for the better teams yearly..except we have teams in this conference that have the ability to actually win MNC'S. (Florida State, Clemson, Miami) other than OSU i think all the programs in those conferences have a ceiling. Us and FSU ***** up our own programs...yet FSU still has a MNC recently.
See you keep changing the narrative though. We were discussing this year. Yet you keep bringing up past. You mention fspoo and us like we scaring anyone. If u saying right now than I'll agree big 10 is struggling. I still say top to bottom they better but THIS YEAR ITS NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE. If you're going into history than were back to being a two team at best conference cause ain't nothing but clemson and fspoo ever achieved **** as acc teams. U do that than the big east has more history than most of em. Sticking to this year pac 12 is far better than either(which is crazy how much better) and indiana would be in contention to win the acc and at worst is second best in acc right now. I just don't get why you'd take this approach. Because we all know if it's not just this year we speak on than michigan and Penn St would definitely not be teams to pick at.
 
There is no difference to me than the ACC and Big10...except the top dog in the Acc is better than theres.

Some of the worst programs football wise sit right in that conference.

Ill take 7-1 all day currently no matter how sh*tty we look. Also i dont know why it ALWAYS has to be said..but VA Tech can lose to South Miami High School and play us tough. It literally happens EVERY YEAR. They are our 2nd biggest rivals next to FSU.

If your talking conferences though the Pac 12 and Big 12 fight it out every year as the worst. Big 10 and ACC flip flop for the better teams yearly..except we have teams in this conference that have the ability to actually win MNC'S. (Florida State, Clemson, Miami) other than OSU i think all the programs in those conferences have a ceiling. Us and FSU ***** up our own programs...yet FSU still has a MNC recently.
Napimp; there’s a huge difference between the ACC & Big 10, and that’s no cap.

In the ACC it’s literally Clemson & everyone else. It’s a huge log jam on who’s the best out of the mediocre teams. In The Big 10, clearly OSU is the big dog, but they got boys pumping out 10+/yr vying for NY6 bids. However, to your point, the bottom of the barrel is fa sho in the BIG.

Here’s the stack up (since 2015)
BIG:
1. OSU: 61-7 (5 NY6 Bids, 3 CFP)
<avg of 12.2 wins/yr>
2. WISC: 52-16 (3 NY6 Bids)
<avg of 10.4 wins/yr>
3. PSU: 49-17 (3 NY6 Bids)
<avg. 9.9 wins/yr>
4. UM: 47-18 (2 NY6 Bids)
<avg. 9.4 wins/yr>
5. Iowa: 47-19 (1 NY6 Bid)
<avg. 9.4 wins/yr>
6. Baby Michigan: 39-26 (2 NY6 Bids)
<avg. 7.8 wins/yr>
7. NW: 39-26
<avg. 7.8 wins/yr>
8. Minnesota: 38-26
<avg. 7.6 wins/yr>
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Indiana, Illinois, Maryland, Purdue, Nebraska, & Rutgers are all sub .500 during this span, and only Indiana is avg. 6 wins/season during this span. Them other chumps are barely cracking 4 wins/season.

ACC:
1. Clemson: 69-5 (5 CFP Bids, 2 Nat’l)
<avg. 13.8 wins/yr>
2. VT: 40-26
<avg. 8 wins/yr>
3. Us: 39-25 (1 NY6 bid)
<avg. 7.8 wins/yr>
4. FSU: 39-26 (2 NY6 bids)
<avg. 7.8 wins/yr>
5. NCSt: 36-28
<avg. 7.2 wins/yr>
6. Pitt: 36-29
<avg. 7.2 wins/yr>
7. UL: 36-29
<avg. 7.2 wins/yr>
8. WF: 33-31
<avg. 6.6 wins/yr>
9. Duke: 32-31
<avg. 6.4 wins/yr>
10. UNC: 32-31
<avg. 6.4 wins/yr>
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BC, UVA, GT, and Cuse are all sub .500 with Cuse & GT barely getting to 5 wins.

Excluding OSU, The BIG conference bowl record since 2015 has been 22-21 with 5 different teams invited to a NY6 game.

Excluding Clemson, The ACC conference bowl record since 2015 has been 21-27 with 3 different teams invited to a NY6 game (UVA was forced into the OB game last yr).

It appears the 2020 Covid season is more of an anomaly for The BIG. There’s much more parity at the top half. The ACC is behaving per usual w/ no real giant besides Clemson. It’s literally roll the dice, and the 1st to 8 wins will be 2nd place. At least I can say in the ACC, our bottom teams r not nearly as putrid as the BIG bottom teams.

Both u & @dsddcane make good points, but Brooklyn is right; this yr is a down yr for The BIG. THIS yr.
 
I'll never understand the point of being a fan if you can't enjoy even your team wins, but y'all do you.
Yep. Its not 2001 quality wins, but it beats the **** out of being 4-4. Now take those wins and recruit better players. Coker Orgeron and chizik proved its the players and not the coach.
 
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Yea because the big 12 , BIG 10, Pac 12 are full of world beaters. GTFOH
You’re going to be extremely upset if Florida boatraces this Defensive Staph in our own ******* Stadium in the Orange Bowl. So will I.

Prepare for the Ceremonial Crucifixions early is my motto. This Staph is going to get us exposed by any playoff level team that’s not in a casket.

We ******* lose to Wisconsin again? Torches and Pitchforks!
 
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