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Notre Dame On-Field Breakdown Thread

LuCane said:
UNC threw the ball the majority of 1st downs. Hetherman's explanation is shaky. UNC was one step ahead of our run orientation. They weren't in 3rd and short only because of early down running.
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Here's the breakdown:

UNC had 31 plays on first down
--they completed 13 of 18 on first down. The completions averaged just under 15 yards each
-- they ran 13 times on first down and averaged 3.8 per carry
 
JustAFanHTX said:
The more I watch film on them and us… idk man. Our defense is even worse than I thought it was. But our offense is even better than given credit for.
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Our biggest weakness is far greater than their biggest weakness. Their defense is still good even with the injuries, and with the home crowd they’ll be able to get a few stops

I have no doubt Mario will have the defense amped up for this one, but I fear if we keep blowing assignments the life will be sucked out fast

This is the first time since Louisville last year I had an eerie feeling about a game. Don’t have that same confidence as I had last year against ND, A&M, OSU
 
9oh4Cane said:
Our biggest weakness is far greater than their biggest weakness. Their defense is still good even with the injuries, and with the home crowd they’ll be able to get a few stops

I have no doubt Mario will have the defense amped up for this one, but I fear if we keep blowing assignments the life will be sucked out fast

This is the first time since Louisville last year I had an eerie feeling about a game. Don’t have that same confidence as I had last year against ND, A&M, OSU
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I'm never clear on how the home crowd will help them get a few stops?? Can only play 11 guys, right?
 
JustAFanHTX said:
The more I watch film on them and us… idk man. Our defense is even worse than I thought it was. But our offense is even better than given credit for.
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I think the market is telling you exactly this. I have zero faith in us slowing down a good QB. None. Just gonna have to score 30+ and hope to get some stops in the redzone. I’ll be beyond shocked if we really limit them much between the 20s.

Definite path to victory obviously but it’s gonna take near perfection from the offense and a couple timely stops. Not banking on many (any?) three and outs from them.

We are miles and miles and miles better than any passing game they’ve faced. Not even on the same planet. As with the overall trajectory of the season, we’ll go as far as 10 takes us on Saturday.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I think the market is telling you exactly this. I have zero faith in us slowing down a good QB. None. Just gonna have to score 30+ and hope to get some stops in the redzone. I’ll be beyond shocked if we really limit them much between the 20s.

Definite path to victory obviously but it’s gonna take near perfection from the offense and a couple timely stops. Not banking on many (any?) three and outs from them.

We are miles and miles and miles better than any passing game they’ve faced. Not even on the same planet. As with the overall trajectory of the season, we’ll go as far as 10 takes us on Saturday.
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I will add one more thing, we'll go as far as the OLine takes us as well. If ND's rush of Young and Traore gives us problems, that could change everything. Our Oline hasn't faced a Dline like Notre Dame's at least not yet this year. Your post was spot on besides.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I think the market is telling you exactly this. I have zero faith in us slowing down a good QB. None. Just gonna have to score 30+ and hope to get some stops in the redzone. I’ll be beyond shocked if we really limit them much between the 20s.

Definite path to victory obviously but it’s gonna take near perfection from the offense and a couple timely stops. Not banking on many (any?) three and outs from them.

We are miles and miles and miles better than any passing game they’ve faced. Not even on the same planet. As with the overall trajectory of the season, we’ll go as far as 10 takes us on Saturday.
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I just don’t think they’re going to have an answer for this offense. 10 is going to cook them, just like Beck did. I really think their DC is suspect and doesn’t do a good job putting his players in the best position to use their talent. They’re also undersized at DT, and I think we’re going to be able to run the ball on them. I could see this being Mallory’s welcome to the spotlight moment.

If we can put together a few 6–8 minute drives in the first half and get 1 or 2 stops, Miami wins this game. Get up on these boys by two scores, and I think it’s over.
 
CANEFAN83 said:
I will add one more thing, we'll go as far as the OLine takes us as well. If ND's rush of Young and Traore gives us problems, that could change everything. Our Oline hasn't faced a Dline like Notre Dame's at least not yet this year. Your post was spot on besides.
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Agree but the spine of their defense is gutted. 2 DTs, senior captain MLB, NFL Safety. Oh, and CB2. We’ve *****ed about our injuries all year, and rightfully so. We’ve been impacted a ton. But this is one team with worse injury luck than us, and when it’s the middle of your defense, that’s not good.

Really just see a shootout here. Won’t surprise me at all to see both teams in the 30s.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I think the market is telling you exactly this. I have zero faith in us slowing down a good QB. None. Just gonna have to score 30+ and hope to get some stops in the redzone. I’ll be beyond shocked if we really limit them much between the 20s.

Definite path to victory obviously but it’s gonna take near perfection from the offense and a couple timely stops. Not banking on many (any?) three and outs from them.

We are miles and miles and miles better than any passing game they’ve faced. Not even on the same planet. As with the overall trajectory of the season, we’ll go as far as 10 takes us on Saturday.
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I think the offense is up for the challenge. This is really weird situation. I’ll go out on a limb and say if we don’t rip them in the first half, you may as well turn the tv off in the second half.
 
9oh4Cane said:
Our biggest weakness is far greater than their biggest weakness. Their defense is still good even with the injuries, and with the home crowd they’ll be able to get a few stops

I have no doubt Mario will have the defense amped up for this one, but I fear if we keep blowing assignments the life will be sucked out fast

This is the first time since Louisville last year I had an eerie feeling about a game. Don’t have that same confidence as I had last year against ND, A&M, OSU
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Yeah. I usually see a lot of paths to victory in most of our big games. In this one I see one
 
LuCane said:
I’m honestly just holding my breath at this point.

If any of the rumors are true, this thread is pointless. It’d have to be a totally new thread.
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LuCane said:
I think Ole Miss actually did a good bit of it. I grew up playing Cover 3 and its variations. Legitimately from about 13 years old or just before, that is what I was taught in middle school football.

I know why Hetherman loves it so much and why teams like Indiana also call it so much, but it plainly has clearly defined holes. Anyone who’s played in it or against it can name them.

There are flood, smash, and other combination routes that catch units that even do a good job at pattern matching or communicating on simple principles. So, when I’ve watched us be *predictable* with it, I’ve just felt that bill comes due at some point. This season, we’re so intent on stopping the run that it seems every player is inching forward or stretching gaps in the zone beyond what makes sense.

I thought TAMU would do a much better job in last year’s playoff, but that was a weird game in a windstorm and their QB Reed is apparently permanently drunk on snow bunnies. I’ll take the result. I thought OSU choked and we beat them up. I wasn’t a believer in Indiana, but Becker and a couple designed plays got us. Not to mention that blocked punt changing the possession dynamic.

So yeah, I think this is just an overdue bill.

I think the number one thing you cannot do in high level football (which I never was good enough to play) is give QBs clear windows and easy decisions. When you don’t change the pre/post snap picture well or react aggressively, that idea that other teams eventually self-destruct becomes a fraud. Especially if you don’t have outrageous playmakers like Scott and the two first round DEs who’d disrupt plays almost from the snap.

I hope something gives. I rather live with getting bombed on Duce Robinson style than give 7-8 yard throws on 1st down. That’s a personal preference.
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is there ANYTHING I could feel even remotely hopeful about on that side of the ball? lol any evidence that Heatherman will change things up when needed whether last year or at Minny etc?
 
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